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(02-01-2016 11:52 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 11:45 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  We now have a plethora of big, strong, and fast FBS WRs. DW at WR is not critical, nor even necessary like at was the past 2 seasons.

Im not so sure of that. We certainly have a lot of options, but we have 1 stud WR and a bunch of question marks. DuHart has at times been a real threat and at other times been unable to catch the ball. England, Little, Fulgham, Harper, Hayes are all still unknown. Fulgham is the only big, strong guy other than Pascal and DuHart.

(This is assuming Vaughn plays TE/HB

is there any reason Vaughn won't be ready to go? just curious. what about the other TE that got hurt (can't remember his name).
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(02-01-2016 11:29 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 10:34 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  It's way to early to answer this with any certainty. There are too many unanswered questions, including (1) will Washington be ready to play, (2) will Verhaegh be ready to play, (3) is Verhaegh for sure even coming back, (4) is Bentley ready to play to his potential, (5) exactly what do we have in Arnold, (6) can LaRussa's play overshadow his "shortcoming"; and if you haven't watched our new punter play QB, you need to watch this.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2588773/high...5612386/v3

Obviously some TIC/humor mixed in here, but truth is , I really don't see any way to make a cogent projection at this time. We should have a few more clues after spring training, but as I mentioned in a post some time ago, I don't think we will know who our starter is until September. Still looks that way to me.

Like Cr8n, I think SB showed a lot of progress toward the end of the season, and I think it is he who will likely earn the starter's role this season.

I'm not sure of Verhaegh's status due to his injury. I recall some speculation that it was a fairly severe injury which may hamper his qb ability.

I still think DW is most valuable at the WR position, though he could once again play lots of qb.

As for the newcomers; I think Arnold will probably RS, and the kid from NC looks intriguing.

Last year we desperately needed a punter who could help us win the battle for field position. It looks as though Bailey Cate could very well be our man. A 43 yard punt avg. is pretty solid, and his punts seem to have really good hang time.


I watched the hudl video provided and in it he did not take one single snap at qb, and I would like to see that. It is possible that he could be both punter and qb, TH did plenty of that, but I believe it was more out of necessity than anything else.

Look at the junior year highlights. Not sure what happened between his junior and senior years, but as a junior he showed a lot of ability and potential as a QB.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2588773/high...5612386/v3
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RE: Who do you think will get the QB job
(02-01-2016 12:04 PM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 11:52 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 11:45 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  We now have a plethora of big, strong, and fast FBS WRs. DW at WR is not critical, nor even necessary like at was the past 2 seasons.

Im not so sure of that. We certainly have a lot of options, but we have 1 stud WR and a bunch of question marks. DuHart has at times been a real threat and at other times been unable to catch the ball. England, Little, Fulgham, Harper, Hayes are all still unknown. Fulgham is the only big, strong guy other than Pascal and DuHart.

(This is assuming Vaughn plays TE/HB

is there any reason Vaughn won't be ready to go? just curious. what about the other TE that got hurt (can't remember his name).

Its always a question mark off an injury, but I would assume Vaughn and Swann would be in the mix and playing TE/H-Back.
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RE: Who do you think will get the QB job
(02-01-2016 12:06 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 11:29 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 10:34 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  It's way to early to answer this with any certainty. There are too many unanswered questions, including (1) will Washington be ready to play, (2) will Verhaegh be ready to play, (3) is Verhaegh for sure even coming back, (4) is Bentley ready to play to his potential, (5) exactly what do we have in Arnold, (6) can LaRussa's play overshadow his "shortcoming"; and if you haven't watched our new punter play QB, you need to watch this.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2588773/high...5612386/v3

Obviously some TIC/humor mixed in here, but truth is , I really don't see any way to make a cogent projection at this time. We should have a few more clues after spring training, but as I mentioned in a post some time ago, I don't think we will know who our starter is until September. Still looks that way to me.

Like Cr8n, I think SB showed a lot of progress toward the end of the season, and I think it is he who will likely earn the starter's role this season.

I'm not sure of Verhaegh's status due to his injury. I recall some speculation that it was a fairly severe injury which may hamper his qb ability.

I still think DW is most valuable at the WR position, though he could once again play lots of qb.

As for the newcomers; I think Arnold will probably RS, and the kid from NC looks intriguing.

Last year we desperately needed a punter who could help us win the battle for field position. It looks as though Bailey Cate could very well be our man. A 43 yard punt avg. is pretty solid, and his punts seem to have really good hang time.


I watched the hudl video provided and in it he did not take one single snap at qb, and I would like to see that. It is possible that he could be both punter and qb, TH did plenty of that, but I believe it was more out of necessity than anything else.

Look at the junior year highlights. Not sure what happened between his junior and senior years, but as a junior he showed a lot of ability and potential as a QB.

http://www.hudl.com/athlete/2588773/high...5612386/v3

Slow feet/mechanics and a weak arm.
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RE: Who do you think will get the QB job
(02-01-2016 11:52 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 11:45 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  We now have a plethora of big, strong, and fast FBS WRs. DW at WR is not critical, nor even necessary like at was the past 2 seasons.

Im not so sure of that. We certainly have a lot of options, but we have 1 stud WR and a bunch of question marks. DuHart has at times been a real threat and at other times been unable to catch the ball. England, Little, Fulgham, Harper, Hayes are all still unknown. Fulgham is the only big, strong guy other than Pascal and DuHart.

(This is assuming Vaughn plays TE/HB

Duhart, Pascal, Fulgham, Patterson, England (on the edge), and Hayes are all FBS bodies.
We may see some improvement on the catching front as the comfort level between the QB, WR, and WRs coach improves.

What is your thought on Patterson? I really think this kid is going to be a force.

Vaughn as the main TE is a question to me as well, as I guess it depends on where Swann is in his development.
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RE: Who do you think will get the QB job
I try not to judge till we see them in competitive games.

England is 6 foot 180. But, even so, I care more about production than size. Other than Pascal/Duhart, they are huge question marks.
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RE: Who do you think will get the QB job
How many seniors are likely on the fall 2016 roster? Seems like there have not been many during the last two years...
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(02-01-2016 12:33 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  I try not to judge till we see them in competitive games.

England is 6 foot 180. But, even so, I care more about production than size. Other than Pascal/Duhart, they are huge question marks.

Judging is one thing, but speculation is another. This entire thread is based on speculation.

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RE: Who do you think will get the QB job
My guess: If Bentley isn't the starting QB at the end of the season, then he's wrapping up his eligibility at Wofford or Charleston Southern.
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After going 5-7 Wilder still has a lot of faith in Bentley, so I say he will start. If SB crashes again, we could very well see LaRussa. He wants to play and I think he should have been the one playing based off what I saw at the Spring game.

In 2016, we will learn who our coaching staff really is... There are no more excuses about having a young team.
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(02-01-2016 03:09 PM)ODUAlumni2015 Wrote:  After going 5-7 Wilder still has a lot of faith in Bentley, so I say he will start. If SB crashes again, we could very well see LaRussa. He wants to play and I think he should have been the one playing based off what I saw at the Spring game.

In 2016, we will learn who our coaching staff really is... There are no more excuses about having a young team.

I agree that Bentley is probably the choice now but that record??? DW started in some of those wins so I'm not sure that 5-7 is something wilder is looking into.
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If you score 30, you should have a good chance of winning and that is something we need to correct.
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DW will be the starting quarterback if his knee is healthy. He is the one that creates excitement and confidence among the rest of the offense. He is a leader.
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(02-01-2016 11:45 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  We now have a plethora of big, strong, and fast FBS WRs. DW at WR is not critical, nor even necessary like at was the past 2 seasons.
This. I don't understand how folks think DW is more valuable at WR, when our offense was significantly better when he played qb. If he was more valuable at WR wouldn't that mean our offense was better when he played wide receiver? I don't recall that being the case.

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(02-01-2016 05:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 11:45 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  We now have a plethora of big, strong, and fast FBS WRs. DW at WR is not critical, nor even necessary like at was the past 2 seasons.
This. I don't understand how folks think DW is more valuable at WR, when our offense was significantly better when he played qb. If he was more valuable at WR wouldn't that mean our offense was better when he played wide receiver? I don't recall that being the case.

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Washington scored a TD in the first game and injured himself on the play. Because of that and then the concussion, he was never full strength at WR this year.

It is a tough choice. DW looked good for the most part at WR, but it was against bad competition. So it's a difficult task for the coaching staff to decide what they think is the best move for not only DW, but for the team. If there is a QB on the roster anywhere as close to him, there should be no question about putting him at WR.
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And now we have another QB. It's from rags to riches.

Ocean Lakes QB Kody Cunningham will be preferred walk-on.

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(02-01-2016 05:31 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 05:26 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 11:45 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  We now have a plethora of big, strong, and fast FBS WRs. DW at WR is not critical, nor even necessary like at was the past 2 seasons.
This. I don't understand how folks think DW is more valuable at WR, when our offense was significantly better when he played qb. If he was more valuable at WR wouldn't that mean our offense was better when he played wide receiver? I don't recall that being the case.

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Washington scored a TD in the first game and injured himself on the play. Because of that and then the concussion, he was never full strength at WR this year.

It is a tough choice. DW looked good for the most part at WR, but it was against bad competition. So it's a difficult task for the coaching staff to decide what they think is the best move for not only DW, but for the team. If there is a QB on the roster anywhere as close to him, there should be no question about putting him at WR.

Either way, DW gets a 10/10 on the respect meter. Kid puts his well-being on the line for the team.
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Bentley
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RE: Who do you think will get the QB job
(02-01-2016 12:11 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 11:52 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(02-01-2016 11:45 AM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  We now have a plethora of big, strong, and fast FBS WRs. DW at WR is not critical, nor even necessary like at was the past 2 seasons.

Im not so sure of that. We certainly have a lot of options, but we have 1 stud WR and a bunch of question marks. DuHart has at times been a real threat and at other times been unable to catch the ball. England, Little, Fulgham, Harper, Hayes are all still unknown. Fulgham is the only big, strong guy other than Pascal and DuHart.

(This is assuming Vaughn plays TE/HB

Duhart, Pascal, Fulgham, Patterson, England (on the edge), and Hayes are all FBS bodies.
We may see some improvement on the catching front as the comfort level between the QB, WR, and WRs coach improves.

What is your thought on Patterson? I really think this kid is going to be a force.

Vaughn as the main TE is a question to me as well, as I guess it depends on where Swann is in his development.

I doubt England will be here next year
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