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Im in favor of doing a return game.

(01-31-2016 10:39 PM)ranger1386b Wrote:  Remember that this time last year we didnt even know what conference we would call home. Im sure that didnt help scheduling for this year.

Thats untrue. We always knew we had one more year at least in CUSA in basketball.

Alabama State has always been there for UAB when the schedule needed filling. Would be wrong to throw them overboard.

Troy and JustShowUp need to be tossed over the side along with a few buckets of chum.

(01-31-2016 10:41 PM)Dragonz Lair Wrote:  15 Current Mid-Major RPI's (most in the southeast):

31 - VCU (A-10)
36 - Valparaiso (Horizon)
43 - Chattanooga (Southern)
44 - William & Mary (Colonial)
51 - Ark-Little Rock (Sun Belt)
52 - George Washington (A-10)
53 - Davidson (A-10)
65 - Evansville (MVC)
84 - Belmont (OVC)
96 - Charleston (Colonial)
97 - James Madison (Colonial)
110 - Richmond (A-10)
119 - Indiana State (MVC)
126 - Southern Illinois (MVC)
132 - Mercer (Southern)

I'm not saying Bartow Arena would be full for these games...but if we could add more programs like these while removing the smaller in-state 300+ RPI KILLERS we would be much better off (C-USA guarantees us several 250+ RPI killers from the bottom feeders)...I have to believe 3 or 4 of these programs would play us w/o a return game...but even if they wouldn't so be it

Everybody can point to teams that we should play. I have yet to see anyone come up with a plan as to how to make them play us.

It's also ironic that many of the teams in that list are in conferences that a lot of people were saying that it would be a step down for UAB to compete in. Hello Colonial and Southern.

(01-31-2016 10:41 PM)Dragonz Lair Wrote:  15 Current Mid-Major RPI's (most in the southeast):

31 - VCU (A-10)
36 - Valparaiso (Horizon)
43 - Chattanooga (Southern)
44 - William & Mary (Colonial)
51 - Ark-Little Rock (Sun Belt)
52 - George Washington (A-10)
53 - Davidson (A-10)
65 - Evansville (MVC)
84 - Belmont (OVC)
96 - Charleston (Colonial)
97 - James Madison (Colonial)
110 - Richmond (A-10)
119 - Indiana State (MVC)
126 - Southern Illinois (MVC)
132 - Mercer (Southern)

I'm not saying Bartow Arena would be full for these games...but if we could add more programs like these while removing the smaller in-state 300+ RPI KILLERS we would be much better off (C-USA guarantees us several 250+ RPI killers from the bottom feeders)...I have to believe 3 or 4 of these programs would play us w/o a return game...but even if they wouldn't so be it

Just an observation: I could be wrong, but I don't think any of those schools play FBS football. So, I guess G5 FBS teams are crappy at basketball...

At UNC, you can make a schedule with 2 away games OOC and get away with it. They literally played @ Northern Iowa and @Texas. They also lost those 2 away games. With a fan base as large as theirs, their 4 or 5 neutral site games are effectively home games. At UAB, you can't do that. We can't afford buy games vs teams in the top 150 in the RPI. We have to be creative with scheduling and it can sometimes bite us in the butt.

No one wants to play a team that has a RPI north of 100 that can beat teams that are as good as Iowa State. So it isn't like we're going to get good teams to call us back. Haase doesn't want to whore us out to the top 20 teams in the country in a buy game. He wants them to travel as a home and home. That makes life harder for scheduling. On top of that, we didn't know which conference we were going to be in for part of the off season. C-USA very well could have kicked us out the instant we dropped football.

(01-31-2016 06:09 PM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  Half the league is under 250. That just sucks.

This is going to be the norm for the current C-USA. UAB should be in the American. That is the only way for our basketball program to stay successful in the future.

(01-31-2016 11:32 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(01-31-2016 10:41 PM)Dragonz Lair Wrote:  15 Current Mid-Major RPI's (most in the southeast):

31 - VCU (A-10)
36 - Valparaiso (Horizon)
43 - Chattanooga (Southern)
44 - William & Mary (Colonial)
51 - Ark-Little Rock (Sun Belt)
52 - George Washington (A-10)
53 - Davidson (A-10)
65 - Evansville (MVC)
84 - Belmont (OVC)
96 - Charleston (Colonial)
97 - James Madison (Colonial)
110 - Richmond (A-10)
119 - Indiana State (MVC)
126 - Southern Illinois (MVC)
132 - Mercer (Southern)

I'm not saying Bartow Arena would be full for these games...but if we could add more programs like these while removing the smaller in-state 300+ RPI KILLERS we would be much better off (C-USA guarantees us several 250+ RPI killers from the bottom feeders)...I have to believe 3 or 4 of these programs would play us w/o a return game...but even if they wouldn't so be it

Everybody can point to teams that we should play. I have yet to see anyone come up with a plan as to how to make them play us.

It's also ironic that many of the teams in that list are in conferences that a lot of people were saying that it would be a step down for UAB to compete in. Hello Colonial and Southern.

What do you mean those teams won't play us?...maybe not all of them but I am sure SOME of them will...if their SOS is better than ours then they aren't dodging everyone that calls them...Stephen F Austin (Southland) and Ga State (Sun Belt) both went to the NCAA Tournament and both played us...I'm guessing someone from UAB picked up the phone and said, "Hey, we are both mid-majors and scheduling is a b*tch right? So what say we make it easier on ourselves and play a game."

If the RPI is right it doesn't matter what conference we play...certain teams from the Southern Conference and Colonial are a hellofalot better than Alabama State, Jax State, Troy and USC Upstate (and yes I know Jax is in the OVC and Troy is in the Belt)

You never know how another team is going to perform against their opponents either. Or who the other teams on their schedule might be. All you have got is a numerical average of past performance.

(02-01-2016 12:24 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  You never know how another team is going to perform against their opponents either. Or who the other teams on their schedule might be. All you have got is a numerical average of past performance.

But you ABSOLUTELY know how Alabama State, Troy, Jax State and USC Upstate will perform and where their RPI will be (see toilet)

Can't never did anything

(02-01-2016 12:31 AM)Dragonz Lair Wrote:  

(02-01-2016 12:24 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  You never know how another team is going to perform against their opponents either. Or who the other teams on their schedule might be. All you have got is a numerical average of past performance.

But you ABSOLUTELY know how Alabama State, Troy, Jax State and USC Upstate will perform and where their RPI will be (see toilet)

Can't never did anything

Hence my point about numerical past performance.

What's better for our RPI, beating a terrible USC Upstate team at home or going on the road and getting beat by a powerhouse program like UNC or Michigan St?

(02-01-2016 01:01 AM)BlazintheATL Wrote:  What's better for our RPI, beating a terrible USC Upstate team at home or going on the road and getting beat by a powerhouse program like UNC or Michigan St?

The RPI doesn't care about margin of victory, so RPI wise, the loss to the elite program would be more helpful to our number.

But the 25 point loss in East Lansing will be a show stopper for the eye test. Michigan state has a waiting lists of patsys waiting to play them. They have no reason to give us a game, because they are going to make the tourney without playing UaB.

I think there's too much emphasis put on the disrespect factor. We went to duke and got blown out in the only year Mike Davis made the tourney. We have to play better teams. If it means taking one game deals with powerhouse teams, what's the big deal? That's better than playing all the teams listed. Especially with the team we should have the next couple years, who knows, maybe we could even knock off one of those guys, or at least play well and gain points on the "eye test."

I'm not advocating taking on 10 buy games a year. Someone crunch the numbers and sub in UNC for USC Upstate and Purdue for Troy. What would the difference be in our rpi now? I bet there'd be a big jump, even with both games being losses.

We have to do better. We won't get an at large with a schedule like this ever again.

(02-01-2016 08:50 AM)The Answer UAB Wrote:  I'm not advocating taking on 10 buy games a year. Someone crunch the numbers and sub in UNC for USC Upstate and Purdue for Troy. What would the difference be in our rpi now? I bet there'd be a big jump, even with both games being losses.

We have to do better. We won't get an at large with a schedule like this ever again.

Absolutely!!! The Answer understands the situation. Also as much as I admire how Haase has been able to upgrade talent it will be harder and harder to attract kids to a one-bid conference that also plays such a weak non-conference schedule. Big time players want to play big time games.

Of course one of the problems faced is providing quality AND quantity for season ticket holders without having to have too many special ticket packages. While I don't think it is extraordinarily difficult to get P5/top basket teams to play us at their place, the home OOC ticket package has to be taken into account, as well.

(02-01-2016 10:53 AM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  Of course one of the problems faced is providing quality AND quantity for season ticket holders without having to have too many special ticket packages. While I don't think it is extraordinarily difficult to get P5/top basket teams to play us at their place, the home OOC ticket package has to be taken into account, as well.

We won't have to load up on P5 road trips if we focus on mid-majors with decent RPI's to obtain a healthy balance...play some P5 games sprinkled in here or there either in tournaments (like now) or somewhere else

This was the year the bottom fell out for the conference. We were 16 last year and 13 in 2014.