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(01-26-2016 01:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 12:25 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  How's it lateral when

You're not in a one bid conference
New arena
Top five league
Re energized fanbase
Money

Doesn't matter, Auburn isn't gonna get one. ESPN bought the bids for the SEC. Nobody said anything about Auburn getting one.

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A new arena, and they have got to bribe students to come. Alumni don't show up unless it's a weekend and a big name and good weather, and then only because they were forced to buy basketball tickets with their football package.

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Top five FOOTBALL league. The SEC is 13-45 versus the TOP 50 in the RPI. I started to jam the numbers and see where they had beat up themselves, but 13-45 was bad enough.

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Debatable - 16 months into the Pearl regime. When he goes job shopping in March, let's see what happens then. If he is smart, he will get a new school to coach the 2nd weekend of April. Between the A-day game and the Masters, Pearl to Memphis might not even make the paper at all.

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The only thing they've got we don't. And they cheated for 50 years to get that.

As someone who lives 5 miles from Auburn I can tell you that they are genuinely excited about basketball around here these days, so you're not 100% correct.

And Auburn isn't a lateral move IMHO opinion as well. They have the money to throw around and attract the big time recruits. If Pearl can win at Tennessee he can win at Auburn.

(01-26-2016 01:31 PM)dfarr Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 01:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 12:25 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  How's it lateral when

You're not in a one bid conference
New arena
Top five league
Re energized fanbase
Money

Doesn't matter, Auburn isn't gonna get one. ESPN bought the bids for the SEC. Nobody said anything about Auburn getting one.

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A new arena, and they have got to bribe students to come. Alumni don't show up unless it's a weekend and a big name and good weather, and then only because they were forced to buy basketball tickets with their football package.

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Top five FOOTBALL league. The SEC is 13-45 versus the TOP 50 in the RPI. I started to jam the numbers and see where they had beat up themselves, but 13-45 was bad enough.

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Debatable - 16 months into the Pearl regime. When he goes job shopping in March, let's see what happens then. If he is smart, he will get a new school to coach the 2nd weekend of April. Between the A-day game and the Masters, Pearl to Memphis might not even make the paper at all.

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The only thing they've got we don't. And they cheated for 50 years to get that.

As someone who lives 5 miles from Auburn I can tell you that they are genuinely excited about basketball around here these days, so you're not 100% correct.

And Auburn isn't a lateral move IMHO opinion as well. They have the money to throw around and attract the big time recruits. If Pearl can win at Tennessee he can win at Auburn.

That is the experiment we are viewing. Winning at Auburn and making good runs in the NCAA tourney has happened before. Cliff and Sonny have the receipts to prove it.

(01-26-2016 01:25 PM)sadolakced Wrote:  >A new arena, and they have got to bribe students to come. Alumni don't show up unless it's a weekend and a big name and good weather

sounds somewhat familiar.

Not really... fans showed up for North Texas... Not a big name nor good weather.

(01-26-2016 01:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  A new arena, and they have got to bribe students to come. Alumni don't show up unless it's a weekend and a big name and good weather, and then only because they were forced to buy basketball tickets with their football package.

Absolutely NOT true.

CUSa would kill to have a win vs RPI top 50. Saying SEC only has 13 doesn't really sell your argument.

UaB fans are fooling themselves saying any SEC school is only a lateral move. That said Jaase would not leave for Auburn

1. UAB has a series with Auburn and he would have to coach against former players
2. Hiring Haase after Pearl would not excite the fanbase
3. Most important, there is not a job opening. There's not even one in Memphis right now.

(01-26-2016 02:02 PM)UAB BOT Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 01:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  A new arena, and they have got to bribe students to come. Alumni don't show up unless it's a weekend and a big name and good weather, and then only because they were forced to buy basketball tickets with their football package.

Absolutely NOT true.

I cant find it and I'm tired of looking for it. Retracted, but I know some programs, including AU's main competition, do this.

(01-26-2016 02:11 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  CUSa would kill to have a win vs RPI top 50. Saying SEC only has 13 doesn't really sell your argument.

UaB fans are fooling themselves saying any SEC school is only a lateral move. That said Jaase would not leave for Auburn

1. UAB has a series with Auburn and he would have to coach against former players
2. Hiring Haase after Pearl would not excite the fanbase
3. Most important, there is not a job opening. There's not even one in Memphis right now.

& Ehsan would clean his clock.

(01-26-2016 11:38 AM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  The line for the NC job in s a long one waiting for Roy to retire. I suspect Haase is at the end of it.

Roy Williams left Kansas for NC. Their next coach won't come from UAB.

It all depends upon the direction Williams points them in when he decides to hang it up. To say the next coach won't come from UAB while improbable is not an absolute. The last coaching search has absolutely nothing to do with the next.

The most alarming thing is straight up believing a guy is too clean for a program. I thought Memphis was trying to distance itself from that shady stuff.

Also, anyone believing UAB to Auburn is a lateral move needs to put the drinks down. Then again, I still believe Auburn is a better jig than Memphis right now.

Why didn't Mike Anderson take the Auburn gig?

Seriously, I don't know why he didn't.

(01-26-2016 05:27 PM)Hopeful Wrote:  The most alarming thing is straight up believing a guy is too clean for a program. I thought Memphis was trying to distance itself from that shady stuff.

Also, anyone believing UAB to Auburn is a lateral move needs to put the drinks down. Then again, I still believe Auburn is a better jig than Memphis right now.

Auburn has had two seasons with less than 10 losses since 1967, not including this one, which is still holding at 9 losses. The Tigers have made one regional final, in 1986 and lost to Louisville. Their farthest advance in the tourney. Auburn is 12-8 all time in the NCAAs.

So with UAB's NCAA history being relatively equal, and our overall record being markedly better;

Can I assume your argument that the Auburn Basketball coach's gig is a better job, is because that is what we have all had beaten into us by the local press ?

(01-26-2016 05:30 PM)Blazing Saddles Wrote:  Why didn't Mike Anderson take the Auburn gig?

Seriously, I don't know why he didn't.

I think i remember hearing something like they wanted him to come to campus to interview, he didnt want to step on campus unless he had the job... i think things fell apart after that.

(01-26-2016 06:01 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 05:27 PM)Hopeful Wrote:  The most alarming thing is straight up believing a guy is too clean for a program. I thought Memphis was trying to distance itself from that shady stuff.

Also, anyone believing UAB to Auburn is a lateral move needs to put the drinks down. Then again, I still believe Auburn is a better jig than Memphis right now.

Auburn has had two seasons with less than 10 losses since 1967, not including this one, which is still holding at 9 losses. The Tigers have made one regional final, in 1986 and lost to Louisville. Their farthest advance in the tourney. Auburn is 12-8 all time in the NCAAs.

So with UAB's NCAA history being relatively equal, and our overall record being markedly better;

Can I assume your argument that the Auburn Basketball coach's gig is a better job, is because that is what we have all had beaten into us by the local press ?

Have you seen what they are paying their coach?

(01-26-2016 06:12 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:01 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 05:27 PM)Hopeful Wrote:  The most alarming thing is straight up believing a guy is too clean for a program. I thought Memphis was trying to distance itself from that shady stuff.

Also, anyone believing UAB to Auburn is a lateral move needs to put the drinks down. Then again, I still believe Auburn is a better jig than Memphis right now.

Auburn has had two seasons with less than 10 losses since 1967, not including this one, which is still holding at 9 losses. The Tigers have made one regional final, in 1986 and lost to Louisville. Their farthest advance in the tourney. Auburn is 12-8 all time in the NCAAs.

So with UAB's NCAA history being relatively equal, and our overall record being markedly better;

Can I assume your argument that the Auburn Basketball coach's gig is a better job, is because that is what we have all had beaten into us by the local press ?

Have you seen what they are paying their coach?

What you can pay for a coach isn't the mark of a better program. There have been more than a few coaches who accept jobs at higher paying Power 5 schools who subsequently find themselves in a coaching graveyard a few years later.

I'm not delusional and going to say the UAB job is the best in the land. But I know quite a few Power 5 jobs that would be a bad coaching move not because of money or visibility of the league but because of the uphill battle a coach would face in building something there.

(01-26-2016 06:27 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:12 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:01 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 05:27 PM)Hopeful Wrote:  The most alarming thing is straight up believing a guy is too clean for a program. I thought Memphis was trying to distance itself from that shady stuff.

Also, anyone believing UAB to Auburn is a lateral move needs to put the drinks down. Then again, I still believe Auburn is a better jig than Memphis right now.

Auburn has had two seasons with less than 10 losses since 1967, not including this one, which is still holding at 9 losses. The Tigers have made one regional final, in 1986 and lost to Louisville. Their farthest advance in the tourney. Auburn is 12-8 all time in the NCAAs.

So with UAB's NCAA history being relatively equal, and our overall record being markedly better;

Can I assume your argument that the Auburn Basketball coach's gig is a better job, is because that is what we have all had beaten into us by the local press ?

Have you seen what they are paying their coach?

What you can pay for a coach isn't the mark of a better program. There have been more than a few coaches who accept jobs at higher paying Power 5 schools who subsequently find themselves in a coaching graveyard a few years later.

I'm not delusional and going to say the UAB job is the best in the land. But I know quite a few Power 5 jobs that would be a bad coaching move not because of money or visibility of the league but because of the uphill battle a coach would face in building something there.

A program with more money is going to be in better shape more often than not. If a company paid you twice what you are getting today to do your job for them tomorrow, would you not call that a step up?

(01-26-2016 01:22 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 12:25 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  How's it lateral when

You're not in a one bid conference
New arena
Top five league
Re energized fanbase
Money

Doesn't matter, Auburn isn't gonna get one. ESPN bought the bids for the SEC. Nobody said anything about Auburn getting one.

SEC isn't a one bid league.
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A new arena, and they have got to bribe students to come. Alumni don't show up unless it's a weekend and a big name and good weather, and some bought basketball tickets with their football package. ;-P


Still a new arena, a new practice facility then watch out.



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Top five FOOTBALL league. The SEC is 13-45 versus the TOP 50 in the RPI. I started to jam the numbers and see where they had beat up themselves, but 13-45 was bad enough.


Maybe not this year, but the new conference hires solid
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Debatable - 16 months into the Pearl regime. When he goes job shopping in March, let's see what happens then. If he is smart, he will get a new school to coach the 2nd weekend of April. Between the A-day game and the Masters, Pearl to Memphis might not even make the paper at all.


Local sports media sucks, still looks pretty well attended with a down season. Has two five stars locked up.
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The only thing they've got we don't. And they cheated for 50 years to get that.

But its there, can't deny that.

(01-26-2016 06:27 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:12 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:01 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 05:27 PM)Hopeful Wrote:  The most alarming thing is straight up believing a guy is too clean for a program. I thought Memphis was trying to distance itself from that shady stuff.

Also, anyone believing UAB to Auburn is a lateral move needs to put the drinks down. Then again, I still believe Auburn is a better jig than Memphis right now.

Auburn has had two seasons with less than 10 losses since 1967, not including this one, which is still holding at 9 losses. The Tigers have made one regional final, in 1986 and lost to Louisville. Their farthest advance in the tourney. Auburn is 12-8 all time in the NCAAs.

So with UAB's NCAA history being relatively equal, and our overall record being markedly better;

Can I assume your argument that the Auburn Basketball coach's gig is a better job, is because that is what we have all had beaten into us by the local press ?

Have you seen what they are paying their coach?

What you can pay for a coach isn't the mark of a better program. There have been more than a few coaches who accept jobs at higher paying Power 5 schools who subsequently find themselves in a coaching graveyard a few years later.

I'm not delusional and going to say the UAB job is the best in the land. But I know quite a few Power 5 jobs that would be a bad coaching move not because of money or visibility of the league but because of the uphill battle a coach would face in building something there.

Seriously what recruits care about 1980 something,they weren't born. They like things like shiny practice facilities and exposure and Auburn will have that. Next year's game should be great on paper.

23 years of football championship game money for their conference and Auburn gets one great basketball season out of it, 98-99t, and the next years recruiting gets them put on probation.

LOL

Auburn can recruit a higher level basketball player, is in a better conference, and has more money than we do. That's just for starters. UAB has had better on the court success than Auburn for a while, granted. I dont think it'd be a lateral move, but I also hope that coach would hold out for a better program to offer him the job. I think he's close to that if he hangs around another year or two.

(01-26-2016 08:26 PM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  23 years of football championship game money for their conference and Auburn gets one great basketball season out of it, 98-99t, and the next years recruiting gets them put on probation.

LOL

Prior to the Pearl hire Auburn never really stressed men's basketball...for decades they just didn't care - and it showed...but thinking Pearl won't be a GORILLA if he stays there is like whistling as one walks past a graveyard...he is recruiting like gang busters...not to mention he just beat Kentucky and did it mostly with a rag-tag bunch (he can definitely coach)...Pearl has said more than once he wants to retire in the SEC...we'll see.