(01-22-2016 06:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 02:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  A small (okay REALLY small) part of me kind of wants to see him get elected. I really want to see if he can actually drop his nonsense and perform the job with the dignity and class it requires.

Is anyone still predicting that he'll win the nomination and then drop out assuring a Hillary victory? I seem to remember some clamoring about that.

Dignity and class

Donald Trump

You're being funny mentioning them in the same sentence, right????

He's very classy. Have you seen his homes? All clad in gold. Very classy.

(01-22-2016 06:44 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 06:38 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I still haven't forgiven him for killing the USFL.

This is my forgiveness.

Well, you haven't gotten off your knees for him yet, unless you're just trolling.

Frankly, I can't tell.

I loved the USFL. My ex and I ran the gameday stat crew for the Houston Gamblers. We were doing a lot with sports in those days, so we put together kind of an all-star team of people we worked with. We didn't get paid all we were owed, but we had a blast. They get down to the end of their first year, and they were very close to setting a bunch of records. Don't remember who they were playing, but they were up by about 30 or 40 in the fourth quarter. We were in the booth next to the Gamblers' coaches, and Mouse leans around the wall and asks how many yards so and so needs to set some record. We tell him and they throw it to the guy and he gets the record. Then it's another question about another record for another guy, and we answer that. We had a drive where the stat crew was basically calling the plays. Berman is doing the game on ESPN, and he is in the booth on the opposite side (walls between the booths in the Astrodome were clear glass). Berman sees us doing this, so he leans around and says, "That looks like fun, can I do it?" So now we have Berman calling plays. It was truly a bizarre situation.

I didn't read their stuff. But here's my take on Trump:
He's socially liberal
He's economically moderate to liberal
He's somebody who's more narcissistic than Obama
He would be an embarrassment to the country
He's rude and won't be able to work with anyone
He shoots from the hip and doesn't think
He has no solutions, only rhetoric
He has an immigration approach damaging to the economy
He actually liked Nancy Pelosi

The last is enough to disqualify him and raise serious doubts about his judgement.
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Bingo!

He may know real estate but he's of the same genre as obama, he also won't know how to run a country.

I also believe he would be dangerous to the country as "his" greatest virtue is not a virtue at all and it's called narcissism.

Vote Cruz at least he's smart and not just a businessman.

(01-22-2016 06:50 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I loved the USFL. My ex and I ran the gameday stat crew for the Houston Gamblers. We were doing a lot with sports in those days, so we put together kind of an all-star team of people we worked with. We didn't get paid all we were owed, but we had a blast. They get down to the end of their first year, and they were very close to setting a bunch of records. Don't remember who they were playing, but they were up by about 30 or 40 in the fourth quarter. We were in the booth next to the Gamblers' coaches, and Mouse leans around the wall and asks how many yards so and so needs to set some record. We tell him and they throw it to the guy and he gets the record. Then it's another question about another record for another guy, and we answer that. We had a drive where the stat crew was basically calling the plays. Berman is doing the game on ESPN, and he is in the booth on the opposite side (walls between the booths in the Astrodome were clear glass). Berman sees us doing this, so he leans around and says, "That looks like fun, can I do it?" So now we have Berman calling plays. It was truly a bizarre situation.

It was a damn fun (and good) league.

The market scenario with Trump hypothetically winning is a big surprise

(01-22-2016 06:26 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  What's most striking to me about Trump is that he talks big about what he's going to do, but rarely about how he's going to do it.

He rambles on about how he's going to make us "win again", but how the f!ck does he plan on making it happen? Great, everyone likes to win. I want Trump to convince me that he's capable of making it happen.

See my posts #65 and 69 on the "Bernie has a 28 point lead" thread. That's how to do it. I don't think that's Trump's approach, and I'm sure as hell that it's not Bernie's, but that's a way that would get it done.

(01-22-2016 06:12 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 02:00 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 01:48 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 11:52 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Are they opposing Trump because they think he can't win a general election or because he's not an establishment republican?

The latter. Another reason why I left the Republican party 8 years ago.

However...I am not a Trump supporter either.

this is where I whiffed him coming out of the gate.....I just thought he was screwin' with them....I didn't think even his ego was this big....

someone that really 'wants' to be prez at this point???.....they're just a dipshite in my book....all one has ever had to do was look at the before/after portraits (or the ones that got shot)

Hillary's already lived in the White House 8 years. I don't think she could survive another 8 years of WH aging.

No she's been buying aborted babies from planned parenthood for years and turning them into a youth serum. She'll be fine.

(01-22-2016 12:04 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  The rise of Trump gives me hope. He's showing just how easy it is to make the Americans with conservative values forget that they're supposed to be rooting for the Jebs of the world.


What I think is that the establishment has to be destroyed, and Trump is a means to an end.

He's showing that conservative Americans aren't really conservative.

(01-22-2016 12:04 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  The rise of Trump gives me hope. He's showing just how easy it is to make the Americans with conservative values forget that they're supposed to be rooting for the Jebs of the world.


What I think is that the establishment has to be destroyed, and Trump is a means to an end.

Agree wholeheartedly.

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(01-22-2016 01:40 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 01:31 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(01-22-2016 12:04 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  The rise of Trump gives me hope. He's showing just how easy it is to make the Americans with conservative values forget that they're supposed to be rooting for the Jebs of the world.


What I think is that the establishment has to be destroyed, and Trump is a means to an end.

That's not the only thing a President Trump will destroy, and that's why he scares me. He could set our international relations back decades if he stays on his current trajectory.

no shite.....so what.....we worry about more raghead idiots that will always be idiots?

at some point, you fkr's are going to realize what has to be done....

and I won't give two fks either way....

but I'll still laugh at all yaz worry warts that grew up in the land of pussification....

Boom! Another good one. I'm personally rooting for Cruz but if it takes Trump, so be it.

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The whole Republican party seems too far right for me to even consider, though I'm not sure what Trump actually thinks. And Kasich might have some sensible, centrist ideas. Sanders is way too far left even for me. It's getting difficult.

(01-23-2016 12:30 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  The whole Republican party seems too far right for me to even consider, though I'm not sure what Trump actually thinks. And Kasich might have some sensible, centrist ideas. Sanders is way too far left even for me. It's getting difficult.

are you really serious with that thought as something of matter?

costa.....take me away now....please (I'm asking nicely )

I'm living among those that only understand commercials at this point................fk me

(01-22-2016 02:08 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  A small (okay REALLY small) part of me kind of wants to see him get elected. I really want to see if he can actually drop his nonsense and perform the job with the dignity and class it requires.

Is anyone still predicting that he'll win the nomination and then drop out assuring a Hillary victory? I seem to remember some clamoring about that.

I remember that too.

At this point the more interesting prospect is Hillary getting the nomination and then being prosecuted for a handful of felonies. Obama could hold her in jail where she couldn't campaign. What would happen to the election?

This is my favorite conspiracy scenario.

(01-23-2016 12:30 AM)NIU007 Wrote:  The whole Republican party seems too far right for me to even consider, though I'm not sure what Trump actually thinks. And Kasich might have some sensible, centrist ideas. Sanders is way too far left even for me. It's getting difficult.

Republicans are too far right for me on social issues, and democrats are too far left of me on fiscal issues, and both have been for some time. Anybody who talks seriously about massive income redistribution is asking for even greater capital flight than we have now. Anybody who talks seriously about repealing Roe v. Wade and gay marriage is simply delusional. I won't consider either one.

That doesn't leave much. If stuck with one or the other, I'd prefer the fool who wants to turn back the clock on abortion and gay marriage, because those things don't affect me personally. But if that fool does like GWB and fails to fight the socialists/communists on income redistribution, then I won't support him either.

(01-22-2016 06:51 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  I didn't read their stuff. But here's my take on Trump:
He's socially liberal
He's economically moderate to liberal
He's somebody who's more narcissistic than Obama
He would be an embarrassment to the country
He's rude and won't be able to work with anyone
He shoots from the hip and doesn't think
He has no solutions, only rhetoric
He has an immigration approach damaging to the economy
He actually liked Nancy Pelosi

The last is enough to disqualify him and raise serious doubts about his judgement.

Bingo!

He may know real estate but he's of the same genre as obama, he also won't know how to run a country.

I also believe he would be dangerous to the country as "his" greatest virtue is not a virtue at all and it's called narcissism.

Vote Cruz at least he's smart and not just a businessman.
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He's built a $10 billion company. Cruz has no business experience and is a cheap politician. Same as we have now.

lol, I'm shocked how quickly conservatives are supporting this New York liberal...

(01-23-2016 08:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  lol, I'm shocked how quickly conservatives are supporting this New York liberal...

Because they were never conservatives.

(01-23-2016 09:20 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 08:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  lol, I'm shocked how quickly conservatives are supporting this New York liberal...

Because they were never conservatives.

I think it's more because the democrat alternatives are a socialist (Hillary) and a communist (Bernie).

Actually, I'd like to see the republicans run someone who is not a hard-core social conservative. But I want a fiscal conservative. I'm still afraid that Trump is more social conservative than fiscal conservative. But he's still better than any democrat.

(01-23-2016 09:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 09:20 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-23-2016 08:00 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  lol, I'm shocked how quickly conservatives are supporting this New York liberal...

Because they were never conservatives.

I think it's more because the democrat alternatives are a socialist (Hillary) and a communist (Bernie).

Actually, I'd like to see the republicans run someone who is not a hard-core social conservative. But I want a fiscal conservative. I'm still afraid that Trump is more social conservative than fiscal conservative. But he's still better than any democrat.

What makes you think that Trump is a social conservative?