(01-25-2016 12:51 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 10:15 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 11:00 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 09:49 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 02:31 PM)mikeinsec127 Wrote:  Oh please! They lied to us! daU, BC, Cuse, Pitt and ND all lied to their BE brethren. This is the business of big time sports.

Be sure to include Rutgers...as you guys have bragged the B1G thing has been in the works for years...makes that pledge to the Big East after Cuse and Pitt left somewhat suspect. Maryland's was on a whole nother level...though.

Was it though? Maryland didn't kill a conference.

You missed the point...

What? Your bashing of Maryland or bashing of the Big Ten earlier in the thread? Your bias is showing TM. You just want to claim stuff and talk crap as far as I'm concerned. Did Syracuse not break a trust? Are they more innocent than Maryland? Who was against the changes from the start? Business is business, you should be smart enough to know to keep it at that.

The BE knew the ACC was looking at Cuse since the early days...they didn't misrepresent themselves like Maryland. Maryland sat in on tactical meetings with the ACC and feed intel to the B1G during their courting.

(01-25-2016 08:04 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 12:51 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 10:15 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 11:00 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 09:49 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Be sure to include Rutgers...as you guys have bragged the B1G thing has been in the works for years...makes that pledge to the Big East after Cuse and Pitt left somewhat suspect. Maryland's was on a whole nother level...though.

Was it though? Maryland didn't kill a conference.

You missed the point...

What? Your bashing of Maryland or bashing of the Big Ten earlier in the thread? Your bias is showing TM. You just want to claim stuff and talk crap as far as I'm concerned. Did Syracuse not break a trust? Are they more innocent than Maryland? Who was against the changes from the start? Business is business, you should be smart enough to know to keep it at that.

The BE knew the ACC was looking at Cuse since the early days...they didn't misrepresent themselves like Maryland. Maryland sat in on tactical meetings with the ACC and feed intel to the B1G during their courting.

Maryland also fought or voted against ACC proposals before leaving, so was it really any suprise at all they would be looking elsewhere? Not even sure why you care seeing as you were barely even conference mates.

(01-25-2016 08:04 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 12:51 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 10:15 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 11:00 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 09:49 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Be sure to include Rutgers...as you guys have bragged the B1G thing has been in the works for years...makes that pledge to the Big East after Cuse and Pitt left somewhat suspect. Maryland's was on a whole nother level...though.

Was it though? Maryland didn't kill a conference.

You missed the point...

What? Your bashing of Maryland or bashing of the Big Ten earlier in the thread? Your bias is showing TM. You just want to claim stuff and talk crap as far as I'm concerned. Did Syracuse not break a trust? Are they more innocent than Maryland? Who was against the changes from the start? Business is business, you should be smart enough to know to keep it at that.

The BE knew the ACC was looking at Cuse since the early days...they didn't misrepresent themselves like Maryland. Maryland sat in on tactical meetings with the ACC and feed intel to the B1G during their courting.

Right, I'm sure that the passing of information from Syracuse officials to ACC officials never happened during all those years that you are admitting The ACC was looking at Cuse and obviously Cuse was at least somewhat interested.

If anything, perhaps Cuse officials were spies for The ACC within The Big East for many years. We could just as easily make that claim.

People like you are desperate, desperate to attack Maryland on this because of the fact that they left. I cant even begin to understand why but it is clear that such is the case.

(01-26-2016 08:07 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 08:04 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 12:51 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 10:15 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-24-2016 11:00 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  Was it though? Maryland didn't kill a conference.

You missed the point...

What? Your bashing of Maryland or bashing of the Big Ten earlier in the thread? Your bias is showing TM. You just want to claim stuff and talk crap as far as I'm concerned. Did Syracuse not break a trust? Are they more innocent than Maryland? Who was against the changes from the start? Business is business, you should be smart enough to know to keep it at that.

The BE knew the ACC was looking at Cuse since the early days...they didn't misrepresent themselves like Maryland. Maryland sat in on tactical meetings with the ACC and feed intel to the B1G during their courting.

Right, I'm sure that the passing of information from Syracuse officials to ACC officials never happened during all those years that you are admitting The ACC was looking at Cuse and obviously Cuse was at least somewhat interested.

If anything, perhaps Cuse officials were spies for The ACC within The Big East for many years. We could just as easily make that claim.

People like you are desperate, desperate to attack Maryland on this because of the fact that they left. I cant even begin to understand why but it is clear that such is the case.

Yeah that makes sense...they were a spy for the ACC after the disinvite back in '03.

Cuse didn't get sued...Maryland did.

(01-26-2016 08:47 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:07 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 08:04 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 12:51 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 10:15 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  You missed the point...

What? Your bashing of Maryland or bashing of the Big Ten earlier in the thread? Your bias is showing TM. You just want to claim stuff and talk crap as far as I'm concerned. Did Syracuse not break a trust? Are they more innocent than Maryland? Who was against the changes from the start? Business is business, you should be smart enough to know to keep it at that.

The BE knew the ACC was looking at Cuse since the early days...they didn't misrepresent themselves like Maryland. Maryland sat in on tactical meetings with the ACC and feed intel to the B1G during their courting.

Right, I'm sure that the passing of information from Syracuse officials to ACC officials never happened during all those years that you are admitting The ACC was looking at Cuse and obviously Cuse was at least somewhat interested.

If anything, perhaps Cuse officials were spies for The ACC within The Big East for many years. We could just as easily make that claim.

People like you are desperate, desperate to attack Maryland on this because of the fact that they left. I cant even begin to understand why but it is clear that such is the case.

Yeah that makes sense...they were a spy for the ACC after the disinvite back in '03.

Cuse didn't get sued...Maryland did.

Big East didnt have the GoR the ACC had voted in against the consent of Maryland, your point is invalid.

(01-26-2016 11:30 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:47 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:07 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 08:04 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 12:51 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  What? Your bashing of Maryland or bashing of the Big Ten earlier in the thread? Your bias is showing TM. You just want to claim stuff and talk crap as far as I'm concerned. Did Syracuse not break a trust? Are they more innocent than Maryland? Who was against the changes from the start? Business is business, you should be smart enough to know to keep it at that.

The BE knew the ACC was looking at Cuse since the early days...they didn't misrepresent themselves like Maryland. Maryland sat in on tactical meetings with the ACC and feed intel to the B1G during their courting.

Right, I'm sure that the passing of information from Syracuse officials to ACC officials never happened during all those years that you are admitting The ACC was looking at Cuse and obviously Cuse was at least somewhat interested.

If anything, perhaps Cuse officials were spies for The ACC within The Big East for many years. We could just as easily make that claim.

People like you are desperate, desperate to attack Maryland on this because of the fact that they left. I cant even begin to understand why but it is clear that such is the case.

Yeah that makes sense...they were a spy for the ACC after the disinvite back in '03.

Cuse didn't get sued...Maryland did.

Big East didnt have the GoR the ACC had voted in against the consent of Maryland, your point is invalid.

I know you were 8 at the time but there was a lawsuit against BC back then

If Syracuse got a BIG 10 invite they would be in the BIG 10.

(01-26-2016 12:13 PM)Minutemen429 Wrote:  If Syracuse got a BIG 10 invite they would be in the BIG 10.

Wonder if TM would cry foul if the ACC decided to sue them.

I don't get the Maryland hate. They saw the writing in the wall, the ACC forever will be behind the BIG in prestige and money. Why and how they left is irrelevant, they had the vision to position their athletic department for the long term and I can't blame them for that.

(01-26-2016 08:47 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:07 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 08:04 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 12:51 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 10:15 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  You missed the point...

What? Your bashing of Maryland or bashing of the Big Ten earlier in the thread? Your bias is showing TM. You just want to claim stuff and talk crap as far as I'm concerned. Did Syracuse not break a trust? Are they more innocent than Maryland? Who was against the changes from the start? Business is business, you should be smart enough to know to keep it at that.

The BE knew the ACC was looking at Cuse since the early days...they didn't misrepresent themselves like Maryland. Maryland sat in on tactical meetings with the ACC and feed intel to the B1G during their courting.

Right, I'm sure that the passing of information from Syracuse officials to ACC officials never happened during all those years that you are admitting The ACC was looking at Cuse and obviously Cuse was at least somewhat interested.

If anything, perhaps Cuse officials were spies for The ACC within The Big East for many years. We could just as easily make that claim.

People like you are desperate, desperate to attack Maryland on this because of the fact that they left. I cant even begin to understand why but it is clear that such is the case.

Yeah that makes sense...they were a spy for the ACC after the disinvite back in '03.

Cuse didn't get sued...Maryland did.

The conference Cuse left broke apart. Dumb comment is dumb.

So the ACC disinvites, Cuse continues to show desire, The ACC gives ultimatum of what Cuse must do in order to get the final invite out of The Big East.

(01-26-2016 05:49 PM)UTEPDallas Wrote:  I don't get the Maryland hate. They saw the writing in the wall, the ACC forever will be behind the BIG in prestige and money. Why and how they left is irrelevant, they had the vision to position their athletic department for the long term and I can't blame them for that.

It's just little brother syndrome. They are that defensive, even people whom are fans and alumni of schools that are very new to the ACC. The fact that they are so loud and boisterous about Maryland is amusing, very amusing indeed.

(01-26-2016 06:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:47 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:07 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 08:04 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 12:51 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  What? Your bashing of Maryland or bashing of the Big Ten earlier in the thread? Your bias is showing TM. You just want to claim stuff and talk crap as far as I'm concerned. Did Syracuse not break a trust? Are they more innocent than Maryland? Who was against the changes from the start? Business is business, you should be smart enough to know to keep it at that.

The BE knew the ACC was looking at Cuse since the early days...they didn't misrepresent themselves like Maryland. Maryland sat in on tactical meetings with the ACC and feed intel to the B1G during their courting.

Right, I'm sure that the passing of information from Syracuse officials to ACC officials never happened during all those years that you are admitting The ACC was looking at Cuse and obviously Cuse was at least somewhat interested.

If anything, perhaps Cuse officials were spies for The ACC within The Big East for many years. We could just as easily make that claim.

People like you are desperate, desperate to attack Maryland on this because of the fact that they left. I cant even begin to understand why but it is clear that such is the case.

Yeah that makes sense...they were a spy for the ACC after the disinvite back in '03.

Cuse didn't get sued...Maryland did.

The conference Cuse left broke apart. Dumb comment is dumb.

So the ACC disinvites, Cuse continues to show desire, The ACC gives ultimatum of what Cuse must do in order to get the final invite out of The Big East.

The Big East was on life support since Football elevated in importance...Cuse as the BE Flagship just sped up the process.

(01-26-2016 08:23 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:47 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:07 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-25-2016 08:04 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  The BE knew the ACC was looking at Cuse since the early days...they didn't misrepresent themselves like Maryland. Maryland sat in on tactical meetings with the ACC and feed intel to the B1G during their courting.

Right, I'm sure that the passing of information from Syracuse officials to ACC officials never happened during all those years that you are admitting The ACC was looking at Cuse and obviously Cuse was at least somewhat interested.

If anything, perhaps Cuse officials were spies for The ACC within The Big East for many years. We could just as easily make that claim.

People like you are desperate, desperate to attack Maryland on this because of the fact that they left. I cant even begin to understand why but it is clear that such is the case.

Yeah that makes sense...they were a spy for the ACC after the disinvite back in '03.

Cuse didn't get sued...Maryland did.

The conference Cuse left broke apart. Dumb comment is dumb.

So the ACC disinvites, Cuse continues to show desire, The ACC gives ultimatum of what Cuse must do in order to get the final invite out of The Big East.

The Big East was on life support since Football elevated in importance...Cuse as the BE Flagship just sped up the process.

Cuse was the BE Flagship??? You guys hadn't outright won a BE Football title since 98... Hadn't won a BE Basketball title since 2006... How in the world does that equate in your head to being the flagship? If anyone was the brand of the Big East it was Louisville.

(01-26-2016 08:59 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:23 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:47 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:07 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Right, I'm sure that the passing of information from Syracuse officials to ACC officials never happened during all those years that you are admitting The ACC was looking at Cuse and obviously Cuse was at least somewhat interested.

If anything, perhaps Cuse officials were spies for The ACC within The Big East for many years. We could just as easily make that claim.

People like you are desperate, desperate to attack Maryland on this because of the fact that they left. I cant even begin to understand why but it is clear that such is the case.

Yeah that makes sense...they were a spy for the ACC after the disinvite back in '03.

Cuse didn't get sued...Maryland did.

The conference Cuse left broke apart. Dumb comment is dumb.

So the ACC disinvites, Cuse continues to show desire, The ACC gives ultimatum of what Cuse must do in order to get the final invite out of The Big East.

The Big East was on life support since Football elevated in importance...Cuse as the BE Flagship just sped up the process.

Cuse was the BE Flagship??? You guys hadn't outright won a BE Football title since 98... Hadn't won a BE Basketball title since 2006... How in the world does that equate in your head to being the flagship? If anyone was the brand of the Big East it was Louisville.

Syracuse was the heart and soul of the BE Conference. The same way that UNC is the heart and soul of the ACC, even though they haven't won an ACC title since 2008. UNC is the main glue that holds the ACC together, the same way that SU was the remaining glue that held the BE together. In the BE, there were two championships. The regular season champ and the BE tourney champ. Even though SU has not won a BE tourney championship since 2006, it has played for several the last few years in the BE tourney.

In fact Syracuse has won more BE regular season and tourney championships than any other team, possibly with the exception of UConn. (they maybe tied). Syracuse appeared in almost half of all BE tourney championship games. Syracuse was also the biggest road draw in the BE drawing the largest crowds when they visited other teams at their own arenas. I also believe that SU won or shared more BE fb championships than anyone else.
And when SU left the BE, every one else in the BE went scrambling looking for a home, including Louisville.

(01-26-2016 08:59 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:23 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:47 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:07 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Right, I'm sure that the passing of information from Syracuse officials to ACC officials never happened during all those years that you are admitting The ACC was looking at Cuse and obviously Cuse was at least somewhat interested.

If anything, perhaps Cuse officials were spies for The ACC within The Big East for many years. We could just as easily make that claim.

People like you are desperate, desperate to attack Maryland on this because of the fact that they left. I cant even begin to understand why but it is clear that such is the case.

Yeah that makes sense...they were a spy for the ACC after the disinvite back in '03.

Cuse didn't get sued...Maryland did.

The conference Cuse left broke apart. Dumb comment is dumb.

So the ACC disinvites, Cuse continues to show desire, The ACC gives ultimatum of what Cuse must do in order to get the final invite out of The Big East.

The Big East was on life support since Football elevated in importance...Cuse as the BE Flagship just sped up the process.

Cuse was the BE Flagship??? You guys hadn't outright won a BE Football title since 98... Hadn't won a BE Basketball title since 2006... How in the world does that equate in your head to being the flagship? If anyone was the brand of the Big East it was Louisville.

The football flagship of the BE 2.0 was West Virginia. They beat the SEC, Big XII and ACC champs in the BCS. Basketball was too heavy from top to bottom that it's hard to say who was the flagship. Maybe a four way tie in with Louisville, Syracuse, Uconn and Villanova/Georgetown.

(01-26-2016 10:07 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:59 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:23 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:47 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Yeah that makes sense...they were a spy for the ACC after the disinvite back in '03.

Cuse didn't get sued...Maryland did.

The conference Cuse left broke apart. Dumb comment is dumb.

So the ACC disinvites, Cuse continues to show desire, The ACC gives ultimatum of what Cuse must do in order to get the final invite out of The Big East.

The Big East was on life support since Football elevated in importance...Cuse as the BE Flagship just sped up the process.

Cuse was the BE Flagship??? You guys hadn't outright won a BE Football title since 98... Hadn't won a BE Basketball title since 2006... How in the world does that equate in your head to being the flagship? If anyone was the brand of the Big East it was Louisville.

Syracuse was the heart and soul of the BE Conference. The same way that UNC is the heart and soul of the ACC, even though they haven't won an ACC title since 2008. UNC is the main glue that holds the ACC together, the same way that SU was the remaining glue that held the BE together. In the BE, there were two championships. The regular season champ and the BE tourney champ. Even though SU has not won a BE tourney championship since 2006, it has played for several the last few years in the BE tourney.

In fact Syracuse has won more BE regular season and tourney championships than any other team, possibly with the exception of UConn. (they maybe tied). Syracuse appeared in almost half of all BE tourney championship games. Syracuse was also the biggest road draw in the BE drawing the largest crowds when they visited other teams at their own arenas. I also believe that SU won or shared more BE fb championships than anyone else.
And when SU left the BE, every one else in the BE went scrambling looking for a home, including Louisville.

Now that would be the proper way to state it, likely true as well.

(01-26-2016 10:34 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:07 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:59 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:23 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 06:04 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  The conference Cuse left broke apart. Dumb comment is dumb.

So the ACC disinvites, Cuse continues to show desire, The ACC gives ultimatum of what Cuse must do in order to get the final invite out of The Big East.

The Big East was on life support since Football elevated in importance...Cuse as the BE Flagship just sped up the process.

Cuse was the BE Flagship??? You guys hadn't outright won a BE Football title since 98... Hadn't won a BE Basketball title since 2006... How in the world does that equate in your head to being the flagship? If anyone was the brand of the Big East it was Louisville.

Syracuse was the heart and soul of the BE Conference. The same way that UNC is the heart and soul of the ACC, even though they haven't won an ACC title since 2008. UNC is the main glue that holds the ACC together, the same way that SU was the remaining glue that held the BE together. In the BE, there were two championships. The regular season champ and the BE tourney champ. Even though SU has not won a BE tourney championship since 2006, it has played for several the last few years in the BE tourney.

In fact Syracuse has won more BE regular season and tourney championships than any other team, possibly with the exception of UConn. (they maybe tied). Syracuse appeared in almost half of all BE tourney championship games. Syracuse was also the biggest road draw in the BE drawing the largest crowds when they visited other teams at their own arenas. I also believe that SU won or shared more BE fb championships than anyone else.
And when SU left the BE, every one else in the BE went scrambling looking for a home, including Louisville.

Now that would be the proper way to state it, likely true as well.

Sure sounds like the BE Flagship to me...

Remember Hoops was extremely important in the BE...Cuse was a founding member...the biggest draw bar none in hoops.

(01-26-2016 11:56 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:34 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:07 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:59 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:23 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  The Big East was on life support since Football elevated in importance...Cuse as the BE Flagship just sped up the process.

Cuse was the BE Flagship??? You guys hadn't outright won a BE Football title since 98... Hadn't won a BE Basketball title since 2006... How in the world does that equate in your head to being the flagship? If anyone was the brand of the Big East it was Louisville.

Syracuse was the heart and soul of the BE Conference. The same way that UNC is the heart and soul of the ACC, even though they haven't won an ACC title since 2008. UNC is the main glue that holds the ACC together, the same way that SU was the remaining glue that held the BE together. In the BE, there were two championships. The regular season champ and the BE tourney champ. Even though SU has not won a BE tourney championship since 2006, it has played for several the last few years in the BE tourney.

In fact Syracuse has won more BE regular season and tourney championships than any other team, possibly with the exception of UConn. (they maybe tied). Syracuse appeared in almost half of all BE tourney championship games. Syracuse was also the biggest road draw in the BE drawing the largest crowds when they visited other teams at their own arenas. I also believe that SU won or shared more BE fb championships than anyone else.
And when SU left the BE, every one else in the BE went scrambling looking for a home, including Louisville.

Now that would be the proper way to state it, likely true as well.

Sure sounds like the BE Flagship to me...

Remember Hoops was extremely important in the BE...Cuse was a founding member...the biggest draw bar none in hoops.

Well I'll concede and let you take this as a victory TM, better than UConn trying to claim conference flagship status at least.

(01-27-2016 12:01 AM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 11:56 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:34 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 10:07 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(01-26-2016 08:59 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  Cuse was the BE Flagship??? You guys hadn't outright won a BE Football title since 98... Hadn't won a BE Basketball title since 2006... How in the world does that equate in your head to being the flagship? If anyone was the brand of the Big East it was Louisville.

Syracuse was the heart and soul of the BE Conference. The same way that UNC is the heart and soul of the ACC, even though they haven't won an ACC title since 2008. UNC is the main glue that holds the ACC together, the same way that SU was the remaining glue that held the BE together. In the BE, there were two championships. The regular season champ and the BE tourney champ. Even though SU has not won a BE tourney championship since 2006, it has played for several the last few years in the BE tourney.

In fact Syracuse has won more BE regular season and tourney championships than any other team, possibly with the exception of UConn. (they maybe tied). Syracuse appeared in almost half of all BE tourney championship games. Syracuse was also the biggest road draw in the BE drawing the largest crowds when they visited other teams at their own arenas. I also believe that SU won or shared more BE fb championships than anyone else.
And when SU left the BE, every one else in the BE went scrambling looking for a home, including Louisville.

Now that would be the proper way to state it, likely true as well.

Sure sounds like the BE Flagship to me...

Remember Hoops was extremely important in the BE...Cuse was a founding member...the biggest draw bar none in hoops.

Well I'll concede and let you take this as a victory TM, better than UConn trying to claim conference flagship status at least.

You are a worthy opponent, Mr. Bond.