http://www.thequint.com/hot-wire/2016/01...-acquitted

Quote:Defense attorney Robert Tuten began the second trial with comments critics called racist. “When you come to the U.S. we expect you to follow our laws and speak our language,” he said.

“Mr. Patel bears as much responsibility for this as anyone,” the officer’s lawyer insisted.

Is there a law on the books in Alabama barring foreigners from walking on the sidewalk? Or not speaking English? I'm confused, someone should explain this lawyer's comment.

http://www.salon.com/2016/01/14/alabama_...ed_trials/

I'm confused by your confusion. Is there a state in America that allows foreigners to come here and NOT follow the laws?

(01-15-2016 01:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I'm confused by your confusion. Is there a state in America that allows foreigners to come here and NOT follow the laws?

There are probably a few more facts he left out of the stories as well.

I think what happened was unfortunate and mistakes were made. However, not all mistakes are crimes.

(01-15-2016 01:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I'm confused by your confusion. Is there a state in America that allows foreigners to come here and NOT follow the laws?

I'm confused about what law he was breaking, walking down the sidewalk. The lawyer implied that he broke one.

"When you come to the U.S. we expect you to follow our laws and speak our language"

There's no way he was saying this just to say it.

(01-15-2016 01:35 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I'm confused by your confusion. Is there a state in America that allows foreigners to come here and NOT follow the laws?

There are probably a few more facts he left out of the stories as well.

Yep, such as everything the guy did prior to being taken down.

(01-15-2016 01:41 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:35 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I'm confused by your confusion. Is there a state in America that allows foreigners to come here and NOT follow the laws?

There are probably a few more facts he left out of the stories as well.

Yep, such as everything the guy did prior to being taken down.

What did he do?

(01-15-2016 01:40 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I'm confused by your confusion. Is there a state in America that allows foreigners to come here and NOT follow the laws?

I'm confused about what law he was breaking, walking down the sidewalk. The lawyer implied that he broke one.

"When you come to the U.S. we expect you to follow our laws and speak our language"

There's no way he was saying this just to say it.

Even the liberal rags admit that he was peeking into garages. That is trespassing.

(01-15-2016 01:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:40 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I'm confused by your confusion. Is there a state in America that allows foreigners to come here and NOT follow the laws?

I'm confused about what law he was breaking, walking down the sidewalk. The lawyer implied that he broke one.

"When you come to the U.S. we expect you to follow our laws and speak our language"

There's no way he was saying this just to say it.

Even the liberal rags admit that he was peeking into garages. That is trespassing.

Source?

(01-15-2016 01:49 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:40 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I'm confused by your confusion. Is there a state in America that allows foreigners to come here and NOT follow the laws?

I'm confused about what law he was breaking, walking down the sidewalk. The lawyer implied that he broke one.

"When you come to the U.S. we expect you to follow our laws and speak our language"

There's no way he was saying this just to say it.

Even the liberal rags admit that he was peeking into garages. That is trespassing.

Source?

IF you just google it and pick bigname MSM source. One of his neighbors called in a report of guy going into garages. This dude thought it was okay to just walk away from police when they are questioning him about a crime and he is the dude referenced.

This probably doesn't escalate if he could speak English...ya know, the predominate language of this country. I personally think they were a bit rough, given his age. However, it wasn't an assault...they just treated him as they would anyone else under the same conditions.

Police in northern Alabama stopped Sureshbhai Patel and threw him to the ground last week after they received a call about a suspicious person walking up driveways and peeking into garages, local website al.com reported.

The man failed to obey police commands.

The prosecutors said he wasnt failing to comply if he couldnt understand the commands.

http://zeenews.india.com/news/india/indi...45471.html

To which the defense said:
“When you come to the U.S. we expect you to follow our laws and speak our language,” he said.

Clear for you now? In other words, if you come to our country, walk around and peek into garages, and the police tell you to stop and turn around, dont get butthurt if you get slammed to the ground for not complying.

(01-15-2016 02:08 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:49 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:46 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:40 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I'm confused by your confusion. Is there a state in America that allows foreigners to come here and NOT follow the laws?

I'm confused about what law he was breaking, walking down the sidewalk. The lawyer implied that he broke one.

"When you come to the U.S. we expect you to follow our laws and speak our language"

There's no way he was saying this just to say it.

Even the liberal rags admit that he was peeking into garages. That is trespassing.

Source?

IF you just google it and pick bigname MSM source. One of his neighbors called in a report of guy going into garages. This dude thought it was okay to just walk away from police when they are questioning him about a crime and he is the dude referenced.

This probably doesn't escalate if he could speak English...ya know, the predominate language of this country. I personally think they were a bit rough, given his age. However, it wasn't an assault...they just treated him as they would anyone else under the same conditions.

The caller reported this:

Quote:The caller early Friday morning reports an individual walking on the street near his home. "He was doing it yesterday and today...He's just on foot. He's just kind of walking around close to the garage."

That doesn't sound like "going into garages".

I don't know much about what happened before but I watched the video and there's absolutely no reason to throw an old man down on the ground. To policeman much younger and larger than this man standing on either side of him with their hands on him. They could have cuffed him in 2 seconds with him standing.

(01-15-2016 02:23 PM)mturn017 Wrote:  I don't know much about what happened before but I watched the video and there's absolutely no reason to throw an old man down on the ground. To policeman much younger and larger than this man standing on either side of him with their hands on him. They could have cuffed him in 2 seconds with him standing.

We had a four man engine company and a two man EMS crew suffer two injuries serious enough to require EMS transport, ER treatment and lost work time from a 75 year old man who might have weighed 130lbs soaking wet go ape on them in a postictal state following a seizure. The minute you underestimate someone because of age, sex, size is the minute you get yourself or someone else hurt.

(01-15-2016 01:45 PM)dmacfour Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:41 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:35 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:29 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  I'm confused by your confusion. Is there a state in America that allows foreigners to come here and NOT follow the laws?

There are probably a few more facts he left out of the stories as well.

Yep, such as everything the guy did prior to being taken down.

What did he do?

Well first he was looking black in the wrong neighborhood. Then, he wasn't speaking English while in America (no pressing #2). Lastly, he didn't follow the cops instructions fast enough. Obey the law.

(01-15-2016 01:37 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I think what happened was unfortunate and mistakes were made. However, not all mistakes are crimes.

Sure, but when you **** up and paralyze someone, shouldn't you be liable in some way?

(01-17-2016 05:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:37 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I think what happened was unfortunate and mistakes were made. However, not all mistakes are crimes.

Sure, but when you **** up and paralyze someone, shouldn't you be liable in some way?

Not if you are a cop. Different rules.

(01-17-2016 05:27 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(01-17-2016 05:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:37 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I think what happened was unfortunate and mistakes were made. However, not all mistakes are crimes.

Sure, but when you **** up and paralyze someone, shouldn't you be liable in some way?

Not if you are a cop. Different rules.

Clearly.

(01-17-2016 05:11 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(01-15-2016 01:37 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  I think what happened was unfortunate and mistakes were made. However, not all mistakes are crimes.

Sure, but when you **** up and paralyze someone, shouldn't you be liable in some way?

Not always.