Its also Ironic that the left is always screaming that republicans want to take food stamps away from poor Americans who are starving, yet the poor in America are the one suffering from an obesity epidemic.

Of course, NO ONE wants to take all the food stamps away, people simply want to curb the astronomical growth of the program.

The poor will always be among us and we will always need food stamp programs.

(01-07-2016 08:06 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Those dollar menus aren't designed for people that can afford to eat better.

Feeding your family dollar menu food is cheaper than cooking a real meal.

Also can't let them play outside when you have to worry about them getting hit by a stray bullet.

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(01-07-2016 10:54 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(01-07-2016 09:04 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(01-07-2016 08:36 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Food sources are limited in a lot of poor neighborhoods.

And yet when a store like Walmart, which has a small grocery store attached, wants to go into Chicago they are kept out to prevent evil corporations from hurting people..

That far left, once again, making life harder for the poor.

That certainly sounds like a mistake. Was Walmart going in to a poor section of Chicago, and didn't because of opposition at the zoning board or something?

Louisville is putting in a Walmart Super store in the Louisville West End on Broadway. This is in the Poorer district of town. It was fought by some residences there. They wanted the entrance to be right on the main rd without the large parking lot in front. it has taken nearly 3 years to get it started. Some people that wanted it are wondering if some folks are just too lazy to walk across a parking lot, or is it just easier for some to escape with lifted merchandise and not have to run through a parking lot that might have a security guard out there. The Walmart political fallout also came up among West End community leaders about not getting good paying jobs even though Walmart has offered a higher starting pay there vs suburban locations. Well at least it now is going in with the parking lot in front and should remove the complaint of not having a large grocery in the West end. There is also a large Kroger grocery store right down that same street so that argument was a myth.

(01-07-2016 08:06 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Those dollar menus aren't designed for people that can afford to eat better.

Feeding your family dollar menu food is cheaper than cooking a real meal.

That's bull****.

(01-07-2016 08:06 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Those dollar menus aren't designed for people that can afford to eat better.

Feeding your family dollar menu food is cheaper than cooking a real meal.

For one meal maybe. How about spread out over multiple days? That one cooked meal could be cheaper considering leftovers.

(01-07-2016 08:24 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(01-07-2016 08:06 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Those dollar menus aren't designed for people that can afford to eat better.

Feeding your family dollar menu food is cheaper than cooking a real meal.

Not entirely true..

I baked a Chicken Yesterday. That was 5$ and I roasted a few Potatos 1$, and threw together a salad from a bout $1.50 in greens. Finally I cut up a carrot and come celery to make giblet gravy and a half gallon of broth.

Total meal (about 8$) and it fed 5 people. Then the next day 0.50$ in noodles plus the broth and some left over chicken made lunch for 5 people (now two meals for five up to maybe 9$.

The problem is people buy too much "easy to make food" or they don't get the most out of their groceries. The other problem is that people don't shop around for food.

Here is another example..

Those "sweet and sour chicken" frozen meals which you bake or saute usually coast about 8-10$ for "two servings". That may be cheaper than eating out but it's not cheaper than making it yourself.

Chicken breast were $1.50 a pound this week. Bought a pounds, along with a quarter cup corn starch ($0.50), 2 eggs ($0.30), 3/4 cup sugar (a few cents), and maybe a dollar or so in other things. You can prepare a main course for 6 or so people for 3$. Few cups of rice and some blanched green beans makes that 5$. Fed five for five and had leftovers for one persons lunch the next day.

Right. Its cheaper to buy and prepare it yourself. Also more nutrition per calorie than the $ menu.

(01-08-2016 12:54 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(01-07-2016 11:24 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(01-07-2016 08:36 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Food sources are limited in a lot of poor neighborhoods.

Absolutely correct.

Furthermore, "food deserts" where there are a lack of fresh vegetables and fruit often exist in areas where is the less in the way of nutritional study or scholastic achievement.

The solution to obesity is not to reduce the amount of bad food, it's to add high-quality food in lieu of bad food - and then you pair that with well-developed physical education programs.

EDIT:

The problem is that we've done the opposite in this country. We've de-emphasized physical education and short-changed the nutritional budget at most public school systems. Disastrous.

I'm not as sure as ya'll on that one. I drive out of my way specifically to go to a farmers market located in one of the poorer area of our metro. The place is packed from opening to close 7 days a week, because they turn their veggies and foodstock over so much quicker than the big, beautiful and overpriced chain grocery stores do. The farmer's market is located in an old formerly vacant strip center grocery store location, is kind of tattered and worn down, and not all that clean. But the prices are great and the inventory and selection beat the heck out of any Whole foods in the tonier parts of the metro.

Smart people, price-conscious people of all backgrounds and colors, rich and poor, shop at this place.

Again, it is more connected with being educated as to the skill of food-shopping, and being willing and able to prepare and cook your own food from scratch rather than buying prepared, additive-laden frozen foods and eating out in any restaurants, fast or otherwise, more than about once per week.

Agree. Smart poor people really know how to stretch their $. The problem is too many aren't informed about food.

Schools have de-emphasized PE. JFK made a big deal about it and schools emphasized it. Now it is going in the opposite direction. And in HS they are getting everyone college prep courses when something like Home Ec and family budgeting would be a lot more important math course for many.

(01-08-2016 09:30 AM)bullet Wrote:  Schools have de-emphasized PE. JFK made a big deal about it and schools emphasized it. Now it is going in the opposite direction. And in HS they are getting everyone college prep courses when something like Home Ec and family budgeting would be a lot more important math course for many.

Schools are de-emphasizing PE to make more time for scholastic instruction. Given test results, It appears that strategy is working perfectly.


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I go to maybe the worst Kroger in the country. Smack in the middle of Covington Ky. I am probably the only
shopper not on welfare. They have plenty of staple items, veggies and fruits. If poorer people are more obese it
is because they are ignorant and lazy.

(01-08-2016 09:55 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  I go to maybe the worst Kroger in the country. Smack in the middle of Covington Ky. I am probably the only
shopper not on welfare. They have plenty of staple items, veggies and fruits. If poorer people are more obese it
is because they are ignorant and lazy.

IMO, convenience plays more a role than a person's financial situation when it comes to what they eat. Obviously not talking about homeless people, etc.

(01-08-2016 09:55 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  I go to maybe the worst Kroger in the country. Smack in the middle of Covington Ky. I am probably the only
shopper not on welfare. They have plenty of staple items, veggies and fruits. If poorer people are more obese it
is because they are ignorant and lazy.

^ that statement right there is ignorant and lazy...good job being the thing you hate.

I work at The Fresh Market...but Whole Foods isn't much different...I mean, have you seen our prices? I thing of organic grapes is like 10 bucks...actual fresh squeezed QJ is 7 bucks...healthy food is not cheap...unhealthy food is cheap...guess which one the poor go for?

(01-08-2016 10:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 09:55 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  I go to maybe the worst Kroger in the country. Smack in the middle of Covington Ky. I am probably the only
shopper not on welfare. They have plenty of staple items, veggies and fruits. If poorer people are more obese it
is because they are ignorant and lazy.

^ that statement right there is ignorant and lazy...good job being the thing you hate.

Your statement is ignorant and lazy. I don't hate anyone. I bet you are a fatty though.
And for the most part unattractive. I am right? I bet you have never had an attractive GF.

Being obese is just the worst thing you can do for yourself or your family. Your quality of life suffers, your career suffers, your life expectancy is severely truncated. Aside from the small sliver of people who, for hormonal or genetic reasons, are fated to be obese, I can't for the life of me understand why people would do that to themselves.

(01-08-2016 10:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 09:55 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  I go to maybe the worst Kroger in the country. Smack in the middle of Covington Ky. I am probably the only
shopper not on welfare. They have plenty of staple items, veggies and fruits. If poorer people are more obese it
is because they are ignorant and lazy.

^ that statement right there is ignorant and lazy...good job being the thing you hate.

Why are they more obese then? You can feed a family more healthy food for less. That's pretty easy to prove.

(01-08-2016 10:15 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I work at The Fresh Market...but Whole Foods isn't much different...I mean, have you seen our prices? I thing of organic grapes is like 10 bucks...actual fresh squeezed QJ is 7 bucks...healthy food is not cheap...unhealthy food is cheap...guess which one the poor go for?

@ using organic food prices.

(01-08-2016 10:15 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 10:12 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 09:55 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  I go to maybe the worst Kroger in the country. Smack in the middle of Covington Ky. I am probably the only
shopper not on welfare. They have plenty of staple items, veggies and fruits. If poorer people are more obese it
is because they are ignorant and lazy.

^ that statement right there is ignorant and lazy...good job being the thing you hate.

Your statement is ignorant and lazy. I don't hate anyone. I bet you are a fatty though.
And for the most part unattractive. I am right? I bet you have never had an attractive GF.

"I bet you are a fatty though.
And for the most part unattractive."

Is this a playground? I'm like 5 foot 11...220...I'm not Peter Griffin, nor am I Sheldon from Big Bang.

(01-08-2016 10:18 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 10:15 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I work at The Fresh Market...but Whole Foods isn't much different...I mean, have you seen our prices? I thing of organic grapes is like 10 bucks...actual fresh squeezed QJ is 7 bucks...healthy food is not cheap...unhealthy food is cheap...guess which one the poor go for?

@ using organic food prices.

That is healthy food...do you disagree?

(01-08-2016 10:19 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 10:18 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(01-08-2016 10:15 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  I work at The Fresh Market...but Whole Foods isn't much different...I mean, have you seen our prices? I thing of organic grapes is like 10 bucks...actual fresh squeezed QJ is 7 bucks...healthy food is not cheap...unhealthy food is cheap...guess which one the poor go for?

@ using organic food prices.

That is healthy food...do you disagree?

Of course it's healthy but the non-organic stuff is a hell of a lot healthier than a ******* Big Mac. Damn, can you not make these stupid ass misleading posts? Do you really think we're not going to call you out on this stupidity?