(01-03-2016 12:23 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  Great PG coming in next year will change a lot.

I'm so sick and tired of hearing this terrible argument. It's based on nothing but cornered pride and dumb hope.

(01-04-2016 01:16 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:22 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Good post and I wish I could have said it as eloquently. I'm just too harsh when I lay my raw feelings out there

There are things to be excited about if we could bounce Pastner now.

Honestly I'd rather see us boot Pastner now and only have a $500k salary allowance for a new head coach to be able to start over.

Give Damon the reigns the rest of the year and see what he can do.

In the meantime have out powers that be begin an intensive search for the very best coach in lower D1 making under $500k.

Have a proven young HC at a lower level take the team at a lower salary then we would normally pay so we can buy off JP.

Give me $500k a yr for 4 yrs guaranteed and I PROMISE my search committee could find a better head coach than Pastner.

Jeremiah Martin is the key to our success

Freshman point learning the ropes this year will be a perfect PG for the new coach

Bring in a fun and exciting new coach to re-energize the base

Pastner JUST ISNT A MEMPHIS TYPE COACH

Good guy and good coach. Just not the type to get Memphians excited.

We need the Bad Boy type coach (doesn't mean cheater)

Just means a coach like Frank Martin, Bobby Huggins, Nolan Richardson in his prime, etc.

We have to find this type coach with potential so we can move forward with out JP and still have the leftover cash to pay him off if he will not settle.

OR do what is really wrong and cut every single perk/funding he gets to make his job so miserable he quits on his own

There just has to be a middle ground.

Final point - WE CAN FIND A BETTER HEAD COACH FOR LESS THAN $1M A YEAR IF JOSH PLAYS GARD BALL

I'm just very intrigued to see what Damon could do in an interim position to finish 2016.

Martin is not a PG right now; struggles mightily getting offense started in half court, telegraphs all of his passes and can't break full court pressure.

In answer to an earlier post, Charlie Moore is the great PG we've signed for next year. Plays PG for #1 team in Chicago and #23 in nation. Numbers are like 25 ppg, 5 assists, 4 reb, 4 steals per game I believe. Martin will be playing behind him.

I like Martin & he brings fire to the game. I don't know much about Charlie but he's still in HS.

Hey I liked Pastner too but after all the random drama with players he recruited has me second guessing his suitability as a leader. Why all of the transfers, especially Austin who decided it was best to sit out this year? Crazy.

Just say’n

(01-04-2016 12:38 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:36 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  I guess it all depends how you define mediocrity.

In my eye, this team is pretty good. Better times ahead if some people don't tear it down on its way up.

The only "some people" would be Josh and he's been doing that for a while now.

Right. The fans on here whining and complaining have zero to do with whether the team has "better times ahead."

(01-04-2016 01:39 AM)snowtiger Wrote:  It's freaky bad to watch sometimes, but I watch. Can't not watch it.

What is Memphis basketball, Alex?

(01-04-2016 12:45 AM)Tiger Greg Wrote:  No, the "some people" are the ones who ***** and whine about everything from the players to the coach to the AD to the President.

I can say more but I'm civil in my posts.

I doubt you've ever been civil in your life. I'm also willing to bet that you are not as old as you say you are. School starts back today so hopefully your phone is put away until at least 2 o'clock

(01-04-2016 12:22 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Pastner JUST ISNT A MEMPHIS TYPE COACH

Good guy and good coach. Just not the type to get Memphians excited.

We need the Bad Boy type coach (doesn't mean cheater)

Just means a coach like Frank Martin, Bobby Huggins, Nolan Richardson in his prime, etc.

We have to find this type coach with potential so we can move forward with out JP and still have the leftover cash to pay him off if he will not settle.

OR do what is really wrong and cut every single perk/funding he gets to make his job so miserable he quits on his own

I think you're pretty close to right-on with that comment but I think JP's main prob is that he CANNOT motivate anybody except overachievers. When you say "Memphis" players I think you can replace that with "highly ranked players/not overachievers" because DJ (not highly ranked/overachiever) wouldn't haven even sniffed the NBA without JP giving him a chance and DJ's crazy hard work ethic. I don't even think cursing is mandatory but you have to find a way to light a fire under guys' butts that haven't been told to listen by a coach since they were in middle school. I think JP doesn't/can't understand a guy who doesn't do everything to the nth degree. JP is a freak (in a good way) and IMO really struggles to relate to anybody who doesn't operate at his insane (again good insane for the most part) level. I think to get a majority of blue chips to follow a coach they must either respect, fear, or in all likelihood a little of both the coach. I don't think JP's players so far do either. Just my IMO.

(01-03-2016 11:21 AM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  I grew up with Memphis basketball as a huge part of my life whether it was game day or offseason. I could recite stats, players, jersey numbers, records and big plays. While I cared about wins and losses, bad years didn't hamper my rabid love for the program. One thing that kept me in Memphis over the years was our program, going to games and being in the middle of the yearly frenzy.

That being said, I have gotten to the point over the last few years that I couldn't even tell you if we were playing a game on any given day or who was on the schedule. The life has been sucked out of the program and I just don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I can't tell you what offense we run, I have no idea what the "vision" is or any faith that anything will get better with the current staff. You can go back to many previous posts over the years where I defended Pastner, but I can see now that he is not remotely the right guy to be our coach. Sure he is a nice guy and I won't belittle his character, but I wish he was gone.

I don't care if people call me a fair weather fan because I KNOW that is not the case. I love the Tigers and will never root against them, but I also love my health and well being. Thus I choose to look away and not get stressed out and ill over it anymore. We are a laughing stock at this point which is a damn shame. Everyone is welcomed to their own opinion of what they think, and I don't disrespect that at all. If you think all is well, then so be it. If you can watch the product we put on the floor on a yearly bases then kudos to you. If you agree that having mass exodus of players on yearly basis is okay, then what else can anyone say. I just can't watch something I love be slowly destroyed brick by brick. My heart just can't take it.

You and I are at the exact same place on this.

Once he was hired and especially after landing the Austin Nichols commit I thought Paz was going to try to have a balanced roster. Not meaning black and white (before someone goes there)

Balanced being a well thought out roster of

3 true point guards
One taller about 6'4, one about 6'2 and a small fast as lightning spark plug type player

3 true centers - no shorter than 6'9
A starter and two pure post players who keep their a$$es down low on the blocks.
Centers who jump straight up to block shots vs trying to tackle players (ala Shaq and his flagrant 1 vs USC)

2 Power forwards - height not as important as ability to bang and block out. Power forwards need to be strong and intimidating ala Omar Sneed. Omar was barely 6'5 and he was our best scorer and rebounder.

2 Small Forwards - true slashers with mid range shooting ability who are not afraid to scrap for loose balls and know how to block out. All capable of playing both the 2 or 3 position in case of foul trouble to the shooting guards

3 shooting guards - for the love of Christmas please have shooting guards who can shoot the ball. Go find two sharp shooters who you can count on to make a bucket off a good screen/pick. The 3rd shooting guard be a classic combo of shooter/driver. I was able to witness Shaq Oneals shooting coach Ed work with my son a few years back. Coach Ed said if a kid can shoot lights out there should always be a spot on the roster for him.

PS - if anyone on the board has a high school player looking to play college ball I can put you in touch with Coach Ed. He's not cheap but I learned the most cost effective way to get him to come to you vs driving down to his training gym in LA.

He's the most amazing pure shooter you will ever see. I personally watched this 65 year old man hit 99 of 100 free throws and 29 of 30 three's. His form and technique can be easily mastered if a kid is willing to follow and practice as taught.

(01-04-2016 10:45 AM)Bill83 Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 11:21 AM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  I grew up with Memphis basketball as a huge part of my life whether it was game day or offseason. I could recite stats, players, jersey numbers, records and big plays. While I cared about wins and losses, bad years didn't hamper my rabid love for the program. One thing that kept me in Memphis over the years was our program, going to games and being in the middle of the yearly frenzy.

That being said, I have gotten to the point over the last few years that I couldn't even tell you if we were playing a game on any given day or who was on the schedule. The life has been sucked out of the program and I just don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I can't tell you what offense we run, I have no idea what the "vision" is or any faith that anything will get better with the current staff. You can go back to many previous posts over the years where I defended Pastner, but I can see now that he is not remotely the right guy to be our coach. Sure he is a nice guy and I won't belittle his character, but I wish he was gone.

I don't care if people call me a fair weather fan because I KNOW that is not the case. I love the Tigers and will never root against them, but I also love my health and well being. Thus I choose to look away and not get stressed out and ill over it anymore. We are a laughing stock at this point which is a damn shame. Everyone is welcomed to their own opinion of what they think, and I don't disrespect that at all. If you think all is well, then so be it. If you can watch the product we put on the floor on a yearly bases then kudos to you. If you agree that having mass exodus of players on yearly basis is okay, then what else can anyone say. I just can't watch something I love be slowly destroyed brick by brick. My heart just can't take it.

You and I are at the exact same place on this.

Spot on. I used to go pay $5 for a ticket outside at the Pyramid during the later Larry and Tic years. Would go sit near the fat guy in the student section behind the bench. Maybe it's all the social media? But back then even though we weren't any good, at least I was excited about going to a game. That's not the case anymore

(01-03-2016 11:21 AM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  I grew up with Memphis basketball as a huge part of my life whether it was game day or offseason. I could recite stats, players, jersey numbers, records and big plays. While I cared about wins and losses, bad years didn't hamper my rabid love for the program. One thing that kept me in Memphis over the years was our program, going to games and being in the middle of the yearly frenzy.

That being said, I have gotten to the point over the last few years that I couldn't even tell you if we were playing a game on any given day or who was on the schedule. The life has been sucked out of the program and I just don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I can't tell you what offense we run, I have no idea what the "vision" is or any faith that anything will get better with the current staff. You can go back to many previous posts over the years where I defended Pastner, but I can see now that he is not remotely the right guy to be our coach. Sure he is a nice guy and I won't belittle his character, but I wish he was gone.

I don't care if people call me a fair weather fan because I KNOW that is not the case. I love the Tigers and will never root against them, but I also love my health and well being. Thus I choose to look away and not get stressed out and ill over it anymore. We are a laughing stock at this point which is a damn shame. Everyone is welcomed to their own opinion of what they think, and I don't disrespect that at all. If you think all is well, then so be it. If you can watch the product we put on the floor on a yearly bases then kudos to you. If you agree that having mass exodus of players on yearly basis is okay, then what else can anyone say. I just can't watch something I love be slowly destroyed brick by brick. My heart just can't take it.

Like others have said, this post says it all. Great, sticky note typ of post.

(01-04-2016 11:28 AM)450bench Wrote:  

(01-03-2016 11:21 AM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  I grew up with Memphis basketball as a huge part of my life whether it was game day or offseason. I could recite stats, players, jersey numbers, records and big plays. While I cared about wins and losses, bad years didn't hamper my rabid love for the program. One thing that kept me in Memphis over the years was our program, going to games and being in the middle of the yearly frenzy.

That being said, I have gotten to the point over the last few years that I couldn't even tell you if we were playing a game on any given day or who was on the schedule. The life has been sucked out of the program and I just don't see any light at the end of the tunnel. I can't tell you what offense we run, I have no idea what the "vision" is or any faith that anything will get better with the current staff. You can go back to many previous posts over the years where I defended Pastner, but I can see now that he is not remotely the right guy to be our coach. Sure he is a nice guy and I won't belittle his character, but I wish he was gone.

I don't care if people call me a fair weather fan because I KNOW that is not the case. I love the Tigers and will never root against them, but I also love my health and well being. Thus I choose to look away and not get stressed out and ill over it anymore. We are a laughing stock at this point which is a damn shame. Everyone is welcomed to their own opinion of what they think, and I don't disrespect that at all. If you think all is well, then so be it. If you can watch the product we put on the floor on a yearly bases then kudos to you. If you agree that having mass exodus of players on yearly basis is okay, then what else can anyone say. I just can't watch something I love be slowly destroyed brick by brick. My heart just can't take it.

Like others have said, this post says it all. Great, sticky note typ of post.

But according to Tiger Greg and Ncrdbl he's a whiney bad fan like the rest of us.

(01-04-2016 03:41 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 01:16 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:22 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Good post and I wish I could have said it as eloquently. I'm just too harsh when I lay my raw feelings out there

There are things to be excited about if we could bounce Pastner now.

Honestly I'd rather see us boot Pastner now and only have a $500k salary allowance for a new head coach to be able to start over.

Give Damon the reigns the rest of the year and see what he can do.

In the meantime have out powers that be begin an intensive search for the very best coach in lower D1 making under $500k.

Have a proven young HC at a lower level take the team at a lower salary then we would normally pay so we can buy off JP.

Give me $500k a yr for 4 yrs guaranteed and I PROMISE my search committee could find a better head coach than Pastner.

Jeremiah Martin is the key to our success

Freshman point learning the ropes this year will be a perfect PG for the new coach

Bring in a fun and exciting new coach to re-energize the base

Pastner JUST ISNT A MEMPHIS TYPE COACH

Good guy and good coach. Just not the type to get Memphians excited.

We need the Bad Boy type coach (doesn't mean cheater)

Just means a coach like Frank Martin, Bobby Huggins, Nolan Richardson in his prime, etc.

We have to find this type coach with potential so we can move forward with out JP and still have the leftover cash to pay him off if he will not settle.

OR do what is really wrong and cut every single perk/funding he gets to make his job so miserable he quits on his own

There just has to be a middle ground.

Final point - WE CAN FIND A BETTER HEAD COACH FOR LESS THAN $1M A YEAR IF JOSH PLAYS GARD BALL

I'm just very intrigued to see what Damon could do in an interim position to finish 2016.

Martin is not a PG right now; struggles mightily getting offense started in half court, telegraphs all of his passes and can't break full court pressure.

In answer to an earlier post, Charlie Moore is the great PG we've signed for next year. Plays PG for #1 team in Chicago and #23 in nation. Numbers are like 25 ppg, 5 assists, 4 reb, 4 steals per game I believe. Martin will be playing behind him.

I like Martin & he brings fire to the game. I don't know much about Charlie but he's still in HS.

Watch some film on him and if you know how to evaluate players, you will see he will start for us next year barring a Top 15 kid coming in at PG.

(01-03-2016 10:58 AM)TiminMem23 Wrote:  I really want to care about the bball program, but there has been nothing to be excited about for years. Pastner teams have no attitude, no personality, no grit, etc.

No you don't. This team plays hard. This team plays tough. They are young in the frontcourt with the exception of Shaq. This team thrives on steals and fastbreaks. The offense, although simple, is obvious to anyone who knows the game.

(01-04-2016 12:10 PM)tigers1125 Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 03:41 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 01:16 AM)Penny Lane Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:22 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Good post and I wish I could have said it as eloquently. I'm just too harsh when I lay my raw feelings out there

There are things to be excited about if we could bounce Pastner now.

Honestly I'd rather see us boot Pastner now and only have a $500k salary allowance for a new head coach to be able to start over.

Give Damon the reigns the rest of the year and see what he can do.

In the meantime have out powers that be begin an intensive search for the very best coach in lower D1 making under $500k.

Have a proven young HC at a lower level take the team at a lower salary then we would normally pay so we can buy off JP.

Give me $500k a yr for 4 yrs guaranteed and I PROMISE my search committee could find a better head coach than Pastner.

Jeremiah Martin is the key to our success

Freshman point learning the ropes this year will be a perfect PG for the new coach

Bring in a fun and exciting new coach to re-energize the base

Pastner JUST ISNT A MEMPHIS TYPE COACH

Good guy and good coach. Just not the type to get Memphians excited.

We need the Bad Boy type coach (doesn't mean cheater)

Just means a coach like Frank Martin, Bobby Huggins, Nolan Richardson in his prime, etc.

We have to find this type coach with potential so we can move forward with out JP and still have the leftover cash to pay him off if he will not settle.

OR do what is really wrong and cut every single perk/funding he gets to make his job so miserable he quits on his own

There just has to be a middle ground.

Final point - WE CAN FIND A BETTER HEAD COACH FOR LESS THAN $1M A YEAR IF JOSH PLAYS GARD BALL

I'm just very intrigued to see what Damon could do in an interim position to finish 2016.

Martin is not a PG right now; struggles mightily getting offense started in half court, telegraphs all of his passes and can't break full court pressure.

In answer to an earlier post, Charlie Moore is the great PG we've signed for next year. Plays PG for #1 team in Chicago and #23 in nation. Numbers are like 25 ppg, 5 assists, 4 reb, 4 steals per game I believe. Martin will be playing behind him.

I like Martin & he brings fire to the game. I don't know much about Charlie but he's still in HS.

Watch some film on him and if you know how to evaluate players, you will see he will start for us next year barring a Top 15 kid coming in at PG.

Lol ok

(01-04-2016 10:26 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:22 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Pastner JUST ISNT A MEMPHIS TYPE COACH

Good guy and good coach. Just not the type to get Memphians excited.

We need the Bad Boy type coach (doesn't mean cheater)

Just means a coach like Frank Martin, Bobby Huggins, Nolan Richardson in his prime, etc.

We have to find this type coach with potential so we can move forward with out JP and still have the leftover cash to pay him off if he will not settle.

OR do what is really wrong and cut every single perk/funding he gets to make his job so miserable he quits on his own

I think you're pretty close to right-on with that comment but I think JP's main prob is that he CANNOT motivate anybody except overachievers. When you say "Memphis" players I think you can replace that with "highly ranked players/not overachievers" because DJ (not highly ranked/overachiever) wouldn't haven even sniffed the NBA without JP giving him a chance and DJ's crazy hard work ethic. I don't even think cursing is mandatory but you have to find a way to light a fire under guys' butts that haven't been told to listen by a coach since they were in middle school. I think JP doesn't/can't understand a guy who doesn't do everything to the nth degree. JP is a freak (in a good way) and IMO really struggles to relate to anybody who doesn't operate at his insane (again good insane for the most part) level. I think to get a majority of blue chips to follow a coach they must either respect, fear, or in all likelihood a little of both the coach. I don't think JP's players so far do either. Just my IMO.

Cal had the exact problems. Remember Duane Red Ervin? Earl Barron? Cal went so far as to hire a sports psychologist.

(01-04-2016 12:22 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 10:26 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:22 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Pastner JUST ISNT A MEMPHIS TYPE COACH

Good guy and good coach. Just not the type to get Memphians excited.

We need the Bad Boy type coach (doesn't mean cheater)

Just means a coach like Frank Martin, Bobby Huggins, Nolan Richardson in his prime, etc.

We have to find this type coach with potential so we can move forward with out JP and still have the leftover cash to pay him off if he will not settle.

OR do what is really wrong and cut every single perk/funding he gets to make his job so miserable he quits on his own

I think you're pretty close to right-on with that comment but I think JP's main prob is that he CANNOT motivate anybody except overachievers. When you say "Memphis" players I think you can replace that with "highly ranked players/not overachievers" because DJ (not highly ranked/overachiever) wouldn't haven even sniffed the NBA without JP giving him a chance and DJ's crazy hard work ethic. I don't even think cursing is mandatory but you have to find a way to light a fire under guys' butts that haven't been told to listen by a coach since they were in middle school. I think JP doesn't/can't understand a guy who doesn't do everything to the nth degree. JP is a freak (in a good way) and IMO really struggles to relate to anybody who doesn't operate at his insane (again good insane for the most part) level. I think to get a majority of blue chips to follow a coach they must either respect, fear, or in all likelihood a little of both the coach. I don't think JP's players so far do either. Just my IMO.

Cal had the exact problems. Remember Duane Red Ervin? Earl Barron? Cal went so far as to hire a sports psychologist.

Lol

(01-04-2016 12:27 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:22 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 10:26 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:22 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Pastner JUST ISNT A MEMPHIS TYPE COACH

Good guy and good coach. Just not the type to get Memphians excited.

We need the Bad Boy type coach (doesn't mean cheater)

Just means a coach like Frank Martin, Bobby Huggins, Nolan Richardson in his prime, etc.

We have to find this type coach with potential so we can move forward with out JP and still have the leftover cash to pay him off if he will not settle.

OR do what is really wrong and cut every single perk/funding he gets to make his job so miserable he quits on his own

I think you're pretty close to right-on with that comment but I think JP's main prob is that he CANNOT motivate anybody except overachievers. When you say "Memphis" players I think you can replace that with "highly ranked players/not overachievers" because DJ (not highly ranked/overachiever) wouldn't haven even sniffed the NBA without JP giving him a chance and DJ's crazy hard work ethic. I don't even think cursing is mandatory but you have to find a way to light a fire under guys' butts that haven't been told to listen by a coach since they were in middle school. I think JP doesn't/can't understand a guy who doesn't do everything to the nth degree. JP is a freak (in a good way) and IMO really struggles to relate to anybody who doesn't operate at his insane (again good insane for the most part) level. I think to get a majority of blue chips to follow a coach they must either respect, fear, or in all likelihood a little of both the coach. I don't think JP's players so far do either. Just my IMO.

Cal had the exact problems. Remember Duane Red Ervin? Earl Barron? Cal went so far as to hire a sports psychologist.

Lol

(01-04-2016 12:31 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:27 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:22 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 10:26 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:22 AM)Pastner4Prez Wrote:  Pastner JUST ISNT A MEMPHIS TYPE COACH

Good guy and good coach. Just not the type to get Memphians excited.

We need the Bad Boy type coach (doesn't mean cheater)

Just means a coach like Frank Martin, Bobby Huggins, Nolan Richardson in his prime, etc.

We have to find this type coach with potential so we can move forward with out JP and still have the leftover cash to pay him off if he will not settle.

OR do what is really wrong and cut every single perk/funding he gets to make his job so miserable he quits on his own

I think you're pretty close to right-on with that comment but I think JP's main prob is that he CANNOT motivate anybody except overachievers. When you say "Memphis" players I think you can replace that with "highly ranked players/not overachievers" because DJ (not highly ranked/overachiever) wouldn't haven even sniffed the NBA without JP giving him a chance and DJ's crazy hard work ethic. I don't even think cursing is mandatory but you have to find a way to light a fire under guys' butts that haven't been told to listen by a coach since they were in middle school. I think JP doesn't/can't understand a guy who doesn't do everything to the nth degree. JP is a freak (in a good way) and IMO really struggles to relate to anybody who doesn't operate at his insane (again good insane for the most part) level. I think to get a majority of blue chips to follow a coach they must either respect, fear, or in all likelihood a little of both the coach. I don't think JP's players so far do either. Just my IMO.

Cal had the exact problems. Remember Duane Red Ervin? Earl Barron? Cal went so far as to hire a sports psychologist.

Lol

Maybe Josh needs to hire a sports psychologist too. At this point, it can't get any worse.
Group therapy on the court. Msybe the psych guy can be on the bench, to help with players and Josh.

(01-04-2016 01:14 PM)dfwtxtiger Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:31 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:27 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 12:22 PM)Tgrrfan Wrote:  

(01-04-2016 10:26 AM)true_blue_thru_and_thru Wrote:  I think you're pretty close to right-on with that comment but I think JP's main prob is that he CANNOT motivate anybody except overachievers. When you say "Memphis" players I think you can replace that with "highly ranked players/not overachievers" because DJ (not highly ranked/overachiever) wouldn't haven even sniffed the NBA without JP giving him a chance and DJ's crazy hard work ethic. I don't even think cursing is mandatory but you have to find a way to light a fire under guys' butts that haven't been told to listen by a coach since they were in middle school. I think JP doesn't/can't understand a guy who doesn't do everything to the nth degree. JP is a freak (in a good way) and IMO really struggles to relate to anybody who doesn't operate at his insane (again good insane for the most part) level. I think to get a majority of blue chips to follow a coach they must either respect, fear, or in all likelihood a little of both the coach. I don't think JP's players so far do either. Just my IMO.

Cal had the exact problems. Remember Duane Red Ervin? Earl Barron? Cal went so far as to hire a sports psychologist.

Lol

Maybe Josh needs to hire a sports psychologist too. At this point, it can't get any worse.
Group therapy on the court. Msybe the psych guy can be on the bench, to help with players and Josh.

Remember when the football team was doing yoga?