Sadness becomes me watching this game

This game makes me want to throw up I'm. My. Mouth.

Orris 24mins, 268fg%, 227%3pters, 625%ft, 31assists, 13 tournovers, 6steals and 4.0pts per game. Orris has started in 10 of 11 games.


Porter 16mins, 400%fg, 375%3pters, 750%ft, 30assists, 14 tournovers, 13steals and 4.8pts per game.

Maybe, Porter shouldn't take minutes away from Orris but the stats say otherwise.

(12-23-2015 11:18 AM)NIU17 Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 11:12 AM)dekalb222 Wrote:  I figured you would post something like this. What you are saying is coaches are always right and fans are always wrong when they disagree with a coach. Whey do coaches get fired then? As of Dec 23rd 2015 who do you think has played better and is a better basketball player, Lytwan Porter or Michael Orris? I support NIU basketball and Monty 100% but that doesn't mean I agree with everything they do.

Porter might be better right now. But do you see all the little things he does wrong? It is the beginning of the season of his freshman year. If he is better than Orris, his playing time will increase. We need to be patient.

Let's not confuse athleticism with being ready to play a total game on both ends of the court..
.Porter and the other FR have athletic ability but have a lot to learn about playing the game....

Can't he learn while playing? Are you saying that Orris has learned the game? If he has it hasn't made Him any better!

(12-23-2015 04:25 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  Then, 57, let me put it another way – five sets of full-time professional coaching eyes are likely to be much more trustworthy than a single set of eyes from an inexperienced person off the street. It isn't like these decisions get made and they vacuum there hours and hours of meetings we're all players and their pluses and minuses are viewed on tape and discussed at North tea are viewed on tape and discussed at nausea. Even then these evaluations are not set in stone but rather are a fluid work in progress based on daily performance and improvement

Opinions are at the very core of athletics. These opinions and emotions are what put butts in the seats (& sell newspapers/create ratings). To be clear, I don't think anyone is saying their resume is better than that of any of NIU's paid coach. It's their paid profession.

The perfect world would be if the head coach were the Pied Piper and all of the fans just fell in line. Trouble is, no-one is that good - no matter how many hours they put in watching video and meeting with players/coaches. They all make decisions that are criticism worthy

Making a decision to move into that profession, opens one up for that criticism. It goes with the territory. It is a criticism laden profession and justifiably so.

If you break a playing time decision down into smaller pieces (at any level), most will give the incumbent the benefit of the doubt. Eventually, that benefit wanes to the point of a change being made. That playing time decision, at the margin/where the straw breaks the camel's back, is what separates individuals, fans and coaches. Some have a higher tolerance (for a number of reasons - veteran coach vs new coach, "my guy" vs. "his guy" etc...) than others.

My bottom line - criticism is to be expected, in all sports.

I'll end on this example. While not a playing time decision, it is an X & O/clock management decision. In tonight's beat down, as the 1st half wound down and we were getting paddled 31-7 and had a timeout left - why not use it to try and do SOMETHING - ANYTHING, get another play in... Carey decided otherwise. I and many others would criticize the decision, regardless of my resume. I don't care how much video the staff watched, don't care what their future plans are, don't care what they had for lunch. In a beat down of this nature, I would rather take a shot at the endzone than trot to the locker room for gatorade and adjustments.

As fans, we don't need a resume or credibility. We buy the right to criticize when we support our teams.

(12-23-2015 09:56 PM)DeKalb57 Wrote:  

(12-23-2015 04:25 PM)cagy cager Wrote:  Then, 57, let me put it another way – five sets of full-time professional coaching eyes are likely to be much more trustworthy than a single set of eyes from an inexperienced person off the street. It isn't like these decisions get made and they vacuum there hours and hours of meetings we're all players and their pluses and minuses are viewed on tape and discussed at North tea are viewed on tape and discussed at nausea. Even then these evaluations are not set in stone but rather are a fluid work in progress based on daily performance and improvement

Opinions are at the very core of athletics. These opinions and emotions are what put butts in the seats (& sell newspapers/create ratings). To be clear, I don't think anyone is saying their resume is better than that of any of NIU's paid coach. It's their paid profession.

The perfect world would be if the head coach were the Pied Piper and all of the fans just fell in line. Trouble is, no-one is that good - no matter how many hours they put in watching video and meeting with players/coaches. They all make decisions that are criticism worthy

Making a decision to move into that profession, opens one up for that criticism. It goes with the territory. It is a criticism laden profession and justifiably so.

If you break a playing time decision down into smaller pieces (at any level), most will give the incumbent the benefit of the doubt. Eventually, that benefit wanes to the point of a change being made. That playing time decision, at the margin/where the straw breaks the camel's back, is what separates individuals, fans and coaches. Some have a higher tolerance (for a number of reasons - veteran coach vs new coach, "my guy" vs. "his guy" etc...) than others.

My bottom line - criticism is to be expected, in all sports.

I'll end on this example. While not a playing time decision, it is an X & O/clock management decision. In tonight's beat down, as the 1st half wound down and we were getting paddled 31-7 and had a timeout left - why not use it to try and do SOMETHING - ANYTHING, get another play in... Carey decided otherwise. I and many others would criticize the decision, regardless of my resume. I don't care how much video the staff watched, don't care what their future plans are, don't care what they had for lunch. In a beat down of this nature, I would rather take a shot at the endzone than trot to the locker room for gatorade and adjustments.

As fans, we don't need a resume or credibility. We buy the right to criticize when we support our teams.

Amen.