(12-15-2015 03:04 PM)AeroCat Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 03:03 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Gunner had a completion percentage 7 percentage points higher, had a higher Yard per Completion, had a higher quarterback rating and had a better TD/INT ratio. This despite the outlayer Memphis game where Moore had the greatest day in the history of the program.

I got the exact opposite impression on throwing guys open vs. Throwing guys covered. I thought Kiel was much more decisive and that allowed him to make throws that weren't there with Moore. Also thought he made some great across the field sideline throws I've seen very few QBs able to make successfully.

You're comparing a redshirt freshman and a redshirt junior....

Of course I am... I want the guy who is playing better football right now. I like Moore and have confidence he'll grow into a really good QB his JR and SR years. He's shown real flashes of what he can do. It's not a knock on Moore that I think Kiel has been clearly better at this point.

BTW...I think Kiel was disappointing this year because he made too many mistakes resulting in turnovers... however... Moore did that even more often on a per play basis than Kiel and Kiel made more plays. I think people's expectations for Kiel are so high that any time he doesn't reach them they assume the other guy is a better option. Kiel hasn't lived up to expectations, he's still mostly been really good.

(12-15-2015 03:13 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Of course I am... I want the guy who is playing better football right now. I like Moore and have confidence he'll grow into a really good QB his JR and SR years. He's shown real flashes of what he can do. It's not a knock on Moore that I think Kiel has been clearly better at this point.

I think we'll probably just go back and forth. We obviously disagree. I don't think it is as clear as you think it is.

(12-15-2015 03:03 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Gunner had a completion percentage 7 percentage points higher, had a higher Yard per Completion, had a higher quarterback rating and had a better TD/INT ratio. This despite the outlayer Memphis game where Moore had the greatest day in the history of the program.

I got the exact opposite impression on throwing guys open vs. Throwing guys covered. I thought Kiel was much more decisive and that allowed him to make throws that weren't there with Moore. Also thought he made some great across the field sideline throws I've seen very few QBs able to make successfully.

Spot on, Kiel is better. That said I love Moore. It was said earlier the program is fortunate to have 2 QBs with that kind of talent.

Point is moot right now as it looks like Kiel won't be in Hawaii anyway.

(12-15-2015 03:34 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Point is moot right now as it looks like Kiel won't be in Hawaii anyway.

What are you talking about? Where are you getting your info?

(12-15-2015 03:34 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Point is moot right now as it looks like Kiel won't be in Hawaii anyway.

But that doesn't rule a return to the team.

(12-15-2015 03:12 PM)rtaylor Wrote:  Not going to Hawaii

Where you hearing this info?

What a crazy season it has been for Bearcat fans.

Gunner....goner.

Next in.....

This program is being run like a chapter of Lord of the Flies.

Cue Yaketty Sax....

(12-15-2015 03:47 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Gunner....goner.

Next in.....

Way to jump to conclusions.

(12-15-2015 03:50 PM)subflea Wrote:  

(12-15-2015 03:47 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Gunner....goner.

Next in.....

Way to jump to conclusions.

Maybe.. just what I'm seeing on twitter. Which we all know is 100% accurate.

?????????

can't help but laugh at this point...

I really am confused where any of this is coming from. I searched his name on Twitter and got maybe 3 relatable quotes. I looked over on BCJ and there's no thread regarding Gunner. His Twitter has been all UC stuff all semester. 3 days ago he took over the Bearcats FB snapchat and was with the team then.

What am I missing? Is Moose feeding you all info?

Jeff Gentil , twitter

Jeff Gentil ‏@jgent15 27m27 minutes ago
Wow the Gunner news is leaking........

Jeff Gentil ‏@jgent15 27m27 minutes ago
Will not comment until UC talks......

Jeff Gentil ‏@jgent15 9m9 minutes ago
@Creid85 @TCunningham50 @MRNelson2 UC is commenting tomorrow from what I believe. I'm leaving it at that

Twitter's blowing up about "Gunner news leaking". Supposedly UC's issuing a comment tomorrow.

Take it with a grain of salt.

Todd Cunningham
‏@TCunningham50 If Gunner transfers what does it say about current UC coaching staff? 4 decommits in a week now this.

(12-15-2015 04:10 PM)Bearcat2012 Wrote:  Jeff Gentil , writer for gobearcats.com, twitter

Jeff Gentil ‏@jgent15 27m27 minutes ago
Wow the Gunner news is leaking........

Jeff Gentil ‏@jgent15 27m27 minutes ago
Will not comment until UC talks......

Jeff Gentil ‏@jgent15 9m9 minutes ago
@Creid85 @TCunningham50 @MRNelson2 UC is commenting tomorrow from what I believe. I'm leaving it at that

Jeff doesn't write for gobearcats.com

Tod doesn't know ****, he is just speculating.