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Troy's will be 64,000sf at approximately $16 million.

(12-08-2015 12:46 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Troy's will be 64,000sf at approximately $16 million.

does troy have plans yet? is there anything that says they're building 64,000 for 16M?

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/image...2Jjw8OIV2g

http://archive.mercer.edu/www2/www2.merc...150sml.jpg

looks like Mercer has at least 30,000. im starting to think 30,000 square foot isn't big enough

Hopefully we can build one up better than Troy's some that says we are here to stay and we're third best in the state

(12-08-2015 12:46 PM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  Troy's will be 64,000sf at approximately $16 million.

That 40,000 sq ft is sounding smaller and smaller - and less user competitive - for a program with great conference and national ambitions. Being stuck with too small (see former dental office) is one thing, but planning and building too small NEW is not what we should be doing.

I hear ours will be approximately 42,000sf. That may change depending on what architect is selected and once they run the numbers.

Don't get too nitpicky with square-footage. No recruit will choose another school over UAB because our facility is 5k ftsq smaller than team x's.

If you've seen what we have been able to do with the old football locker room and men's basketball locker room, I'm not worried about how the new facility will look to recruits. It will be 1st class.

yeah ive heard 42,000 as well

Will the stripper room be on the 1st floor or 2nd floor?

(12-08-2015 01:28 PM)UABslant Wrote:  Don't get too nitpicky with square-footage. No recruit will choose another school over UAB because our facility is 5k ftsq smaller than team x's.

If you've seen what we have been able to do with the old football locker room and men's basketball locker room, I'm not worried about how the new facility will look to recruits. It will be 1st class.

We are not talking about a "5K sq ft difference" when you compare 40,000 to 60,000 at USM and 62,000 at Troy. That is a 50% and more increase in capacity for housing what the building is meant to serve. UAB can put less into the smaller building than into one 50+% larger.

Yes, i think recruits can tell the difference between a "pop up camper" and even a small Winnabego. The present USM QB may have switched from UAB because of facilities, and you can bet he won't be the last kind of top athlete Clark will want to attract - and keep - for our new team. We MUST build what we need NOW to accommodate what quality of program we want to plan to have in the future.

(12-08-2015 02:06 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 01:28 PM)UABslant Wrote:  Don't get too nitpicky with square-footage. No recruit will choose another school over UAB because our facility is 5k ftsq smaller than team x's.

If you've seen what we have been able to do with the old football locker room and men's basketball locker room, I'm not worried about how the new facility will look to recruits. It will be 1st class.

We are not talking about a "5K sq ft difference" when you compare 40,000 to 60,000 at USM and 62,000 at Troy. That is a 50% and more increase in capacity for housing what the building is meant to serve. UAB can put less into the smaller building than into one 50+% larger.

Yes, i think recruits can tell the difference between a "pop up camper" and even a small Winnabego. The present USM QB may have switched from UAB because of facilities, and you can bet he won't be the last kind of top athlete Clark will want to attract - and keep - for our new team. We MUST build what we need NOW to accommodate what quality of program we want to plan to have in the future.

I think Troy's is three floors, with the third floor being luxury suites, premium seating and banquet hall. So the football operations component is probably close to the 40,000. It is tough to compare a stand-alone football only building like ours to Troy and USM which is incorporated into their stadiums and has additional functions. I want our facility to be 1st class also, but I don't think 42,000 sqft is bad.

(12-08-2015 01:33 PM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Will the stripper room be on the 1st floor or 2nd floor?

2nd floor. Easier to control access and keep away prying eyes.

(12-08-2015 12:04 PM)UABslant Wrote:  

(12-08-2015 12:20 AM)BlazerPhil Wrote:  40,000 sq. ft. is 3/4 of a football field. A standard field is 360 feet long and 160 feet wide....57600 sq. ft.

I can completely see the Athletics Committee screwing us out of a full sized facility.

We're talking a building, not a practice field or covered facility.

Gotcha. Obviously I was thinking covered practice facility.

(12-08-2015 12:52 PM)4thDownBlazer Wrote:  http://archive.mercer.edu/www2/www2.merc...150sml.jpg

looks like Mercer has at least 30,000. im starting to think 30,000 square foot isn't big enough

Mercer's is 38,000. Looks very nice to me. http://mercerbears.com/sports/fball/2013...0002/index

Mercer and samford have very nice facilities ... no reason for us to not trump those facilities.

Not to quibble about 40,000 sq ft as compared to something larger, but logic dictates that you can house more different capabilities in the 50% larger 60,000 sq ft than you can in 40,000. If UAB is going to build the smaller facility because it is all they can afford, then it is what it is. Going into the latter years of this decade with perhaps the 5th largest football operations building of the D1 programs in this state does not sound impressive when considering stated program ambitions. "Dream big but think and build small" does not seem to fit Joe Volker's oft quoted admonition.

Which is why the overall experiences & things are important.

Would you like to have a nice fieldhouse in Birmingham or a slightly better fieldhouse in Podunkville?

(12-09-2015 11:38 AM)the_blazerman Wrote:  Which is why the overall experiences & things are important.

Would you like to have a nice fieldhouse in Birmingham or a slightly better fieldhouse in Podunkville?

All business buildings are built to provide certain amenities needed for that business. I want UAB to build what it needs to be the competitive program it says it wants to be. A "nice (smaller) fieldhouse" instead of nothing is one thing, but a nice 40,000 sq ft facility when we NEED and can build a nice larger building to actually serve more of our program's needs is another. I'm presuming that these other programs built what they felt their programs needed, not just to "keep up with the Jones".

& I would expect Coach Clark to know what is needed to succeed instead of just keeping up with the Joey Joneses.