Decent lineup other than Temple. 4 "p5" opponents and MWC and CUSA champs.

Sorry Temple.

(12-06-2015 04:06 PM)LostInSpace Wrote:  The I-bowl is an ACC bowl. Temple is not in that game because of location. Tulsa is much closer and where would you rather spend time, Boca or Shreveport?

Temple got the better bowl trip for the players, and fans. Come on we are talking DEC in South Fla.

Hopefully we will grab a couple of slightly better bowls next go round. I don't see any big improvements, Bowls will still rather a P5 6-7 over a #1 AAC.

UofMstateU ttech and WVU would have just switched... the big 12 wasnt giving up the liberty if they werent forced too

(which is what everyone was projecting pre kstate eligibility), i never saw a Memphis projection

ESPN bowl projection:
Liberty Bowl in Memphis
Saturday, Jan. 2, 3:20 p.m.
Schlabach: Texas Tech vs. LSU
McMurphy: Texas Tech vs. Georgia

secondly the liberty bowl is contracted to our champion if it becomes available, and second place if our champion is in the Access..memphis is technically #4

ill just let you believe what you want, but will say i have hard time believing the liberty would unnecessarily spurn the big 12 (who it was even lucky to be in partnership with) when it didnt need to and then skipped the AAC protocol, which im not even sure they are contractually allowed

I agree that Temple got the bad draw as far as opponents. I have been a Temple fan this season & they definitely deserved better. Tulsa got the opponent that Temple should've drawn. However, the bowl system is too convoluted to make good sense. Tulsa playing the day after Christmas in Shreveport is pure geography.

As far as location & date of bowl, Temple wins. Playing in Boca on the 22nd is a much better reward for the players than Shreveport the day after Christmas. I've already been to one Indy bowl with temps in the 20s & icy drizzle.

Good luck to all AAC teams in their bowl games!

(12-06-2015 06:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  UofMstateU ttech and WVU would have just switched... the big 12 wasnt giving up the liberty if they werent forced too

(which is what everyone was projecting pre kstate eligibility), i never saw a Memphis projection

ESPN bowl projection:
Liberty Bowl in Memphis
Saturday, Jan. 2, 3:20 p.m.
Schlabach: Texas Tech vs. LSU
McMurphy: Texas Tech vs. Georgia

secondly the liberty bowl is contracted to our champion if it becomes available, and second place if our champion is in the Access..memphis is technically #4

ill just let you believe what you want, but will say i have hard time believing the liberty would unnecessarily spurn the big 12 (who it was even lucky to be in partnership with) when it didnt need to and then skipped the AAC protocol, which im not even sure they are contractually allowed

You know why the Liberty didnt have to take Texas tech? Because the SEC team the Liberty Bowl was going to get was ARKANSAS. Guess who Arkansas played this year in the regular season? Texas Tech. So the Liberty Bowl could deny Texas Tech, and WVU since they played the year before, AND any 5-7 B12 team.

Clear as mud now?

Second, the AAC MUST give the champion (or the 2nd place team if the champion is in the access) to the Liberty if the Liberty wants them. The Liberty is free however, to choose whoever the hell they want from the AAC. If the Liberty wants to drop down, they will.

temple got hosed

i wouldve been thrilled with boca as a tulsa fan.

obviously thrilled with our luck.

its a relatively easy drive from tulsa.

American: 4 P5 and 4 strong G5 opponents
Auburn
Florida State
Pittsburgh
Virginia Tech
C-USA Champion (WKU)
MWC Champion (SDSU)
Marshall, 9-3
Toledo, 9-2

Pac 12: 6 P5 and 3 G5
Miami
West Virginia
TCU
Nebraska
Wisconsin
Iowa
BYU
Southern Miss
Air Force

ACC: 6 P5 and 3 G5
Washington State
Indiana
Baylor
Miss State
Texas A&M
Oklahoma
Houston
Navy
Tulsa

Big 12: 7 P5 and ZERO G5
UNC
LSU
Clemson
Ole Miss
Arkansas
Oregon
Arizona State

Big 10: 9 P5 and 1 G5
Alabama
Duke
UCLA
USC
Tenn
Florida
Notre Dame
Stanford
Georgia
Central Michigan

SEC: 9 P5 and 1 G5
Michigan
Michigan state
NC State
Texas Tech
Louisville
Northwestern
Oklahoma State
Penn State
Kansas State
Memphis

CUSA: 1 P5 and 4 G5
Washington
Ark State
USF
Western Michigan
UCONN

MWC: 2 P5 and 5 G5
Arizona
Cal
Georgia State
Akron
NIU
Cincinnati
Nevada and Colorado State Friendly (will count as just one G5)

MAC: 1 P5 and 6 G5
Minnesota
Appalachian State
Utah State
Temple
Boise State
Georgia Southern
Middle Tenn

Sun Belt: ZERO P5 and 4 G5
Ohio
San Jose State
Louisiana Tech
Bowling Green

Well, our bowls suck, but they are light years ahead of the other G4 conferences.

(12-06-2015 06:48 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 03:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  overall not bad..i wish we could switch temple and tulsa.

no offense to tulsa but temple deserved that bowl

Pesik seems obsessed wth Tulsa's bowl destination for some strange reason. She doesn't seem to understand that the Independence Bowl selected Tulsa due to proximity. Theywould have picked Temple had they wanted them.

Tulsa has played in the Independence twice and took good crowds both times. I'm sure the bowl organizers recognize that.

It would be much easier to just say congratulations and good luck instead of constantly complaining. Putting "no offense" in each of your posts just shows that you're trying to be offensive.

1) he not she

2) i clearly explained earlier "id be upset if it was the other way around...when Tulsa turns their ship around, and lets say they won 10 games on a year beating Oklahoma first time in a while, ranked most the season ...i wouldnt want them to get Toledo with while a 6-6 temple got Arkansas"

3) the indy bowl had last choice of the bowls (technically second to last, but last for available teams)....they even had offered mizzou literally a week ago to avoid taking our last team, why mizzou released a statement declining a bowl as a 5-7 team

SEC Football ‏@SECfootball Nov 30
Mizzou declines Independence Bowl invitation

it wasnt about proximity, it was about getting what was available
like i noted earlier it was not the fault of aac, or tulsa, or temple, the match-up was likely just luck, but i wished the stars aligned that temple could have gotten it...

So looking at my above post, for this being the off cycle crappy bowl year for the AAC that people wanted to puke about the beginning of the season.........well HOT DAMN........ NOT BAD!!!!

Another thing to look at........ even when taking into account the off cycle bad bowl year for the AAC........ this really shows and amplifies the true tweener conference standing. Pac 12 and ACC only had one less G5 opponent each.

Look at the other G5 conferences........WOW

(12-06-2015 07:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 06:48 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 03:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  overall not bad..i wish we could switch temple and tulsa.

no offense to tulsa but temple deserved that bowl

Pesik seems obsessed wth Tulsa's bowl destination for some strange reason. She doesn't seem to understand that the Independence Bowl selected Tulsa due to proximity. Theywould have picked Temple had they wanted them.

Tulsa has played in the Independence twice and took good crowds both times. I'm sure the bowl organizers recognize that.

It would be much easier to just say congratulations and good luck instead of constantly complaining. Putting "no offense" in each of your posts just shows that you're trying to be offensive.

1) he not she

2) i clearly explained earlier "id be upset if it was the other way around...when Tulsa turns their ship around, and lets say they won 10 games on a year beating Oklahoma first time in a while, ranked most the season ...i wouldnt want them to get Toledo with while a 6-6 temple got Arkansas"

3) the indy bowl had last choice of the bowls (technically second to last, but last for available teams)....they even had offered mizzou literally a week ago to avoid taking our last team, why mizzou released a statement declining a bowl as a 5-7 team

SEC Football ‏@SECfootball Nov 30
Mizzou declines Independence Bowl invitation

it wasnt about proximity, it was about getting what was available
like i noted earlier it was not the fault of aac, or tulsa, or temple, the match-up was likely just luck, but i wished the stars aligned that temple could have gotten it...

So, you say its not about proximity, but that it was about the luck of the proximity?

(12-06-2015 07:09 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 07:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 06:48 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 03:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  overall not bad..i wish we could switch temple and tulsa.

no offense to tulsa but temple deserved that bowl

Pesik seems obsessed wth Tulsa's bowl destination for some strange reason. She doesn't seem to understand that the Independence Bowl selected Tulsa due to proximity. Theywould have picked Temple had they wanted them.

Tulsa has played in the Independence twice and took good crowds both times. I'm sure the bowl organizers recognize that.

It would be much easier to just say congratulations and good luck instead of constantly complaining. Putting "no offense" in each of your posts just shows that you're trying to be offensive.

1) he not she

2) i clearly explained earlier "id be upset if it was the other way around...when Tulsa turns their ship around, and lets say they won 10 games on a year beating Oklahoma first time in a while, ranked most the season ...i wouldnt want them to get Toledo with while a 6-6 temple got Arkansas"

3) the indy bowl had last choice of the bowls (technically second to last, but last for available teams)....they even had offered mizzou literally a week ago to avoid taking our last team, why mizzou released a statement declining a bowl as a 5-7 team

SEC Football ‏@SECfootball Nov 30
Mizzou declines Independence Bowl invitation

it wasnt about proximity, it was about getting what was available
like i noted earlier it was not the fault of aac, or tulsa, or temple, the match-up was likely just luck, but i wished the stars aligned that temple could have gotten it...

So, you say its not about proximity, but that it was about the luck of the proximity?

not sure what your statement means,

ill fix it to what i actually meant

"so, you say its not about proximity, but that it was about the luck that tulsa was available for a bowl being our last bowl team a bowl not part of our main bowl lineup and that bowl was also an atlarge bowl who luckily to picked up an ACC team instead of the 6-6 sunbelt team many were projecting"

Back up bowl agreement with independence meaning a primary bowl partner had to agree to give up their spot with the AAC and with the limited amount of at-large teams available this year the cure bowl was probably the only one that would agree to do it. They probably figured there would be very little difference in terms of fans support for the game between Tulsa and San Jose State . Boca Raton wasn't going to give up the Temple Toledo match up between the two teams that just missed the access bowl.

(12-06-2015 07:29 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 07:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 06:48 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 03:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  overall not bad..i wish we could switch temple and tulsa.

no offense to tulsa but temple deserved that bowl

Pesik seems obsessed wth Tulsa's bowl destination for some strange reason. She doesn't seem to understand that the Independence Bowl selected Tulsa due to proximity. Theywould have picked Temple had they wanted them.

Tulsa has played in the Independence twice and took good crowds both times. I'm sure the bowl organizers recognize that.

It would be much easier to just say congratulations and good luck instead of constantly complaining. Putting "no offense" in each of your posts just shows that you're trying to be offensive.

1) he not she

2) i clearly explained earlier "id be upset if it was the other way around...when Tulsa turns their ship around, and lets say they won 10 games on a year beating Oklahoma first time in a while, ranked most the season ...i wouldnt want them to get Toledo with while a 6-6 temple got Arkansas"

3) the indy bowl had last choice of the bowls (technically second to last, but last for available teams)....they even had offered mizzou literally a week ago to avoid taking our last team, why mizzou released a statement declining a bowl as a 5-7 team

SEC Football ‏@SECfootball Nov 30
Mizzou declines Independence Bowl invitation

it wasnt about proximity, it was about getting what was available
like i noted earlier it was not the fault of aac, or tulsa, or temple, the match-up was likely just luck, but i wished the stars aligned that temple could have gotten it...

The bowl wants to sell some tickets. They are far more likely to prefer a school within driving distance, especially when that school has sold a lot of tickets for prior appearances, than one from halfway across the country for a 12/26 game.

Temple/Va Tech would would have played before an empty stadium.

So you're telling me the St Pete organizers thought UCONN fans would show up in Florida the day after XMas at 11 AM? Doubtful....

So apparently Pesik is a girl, I never knew that.

(12-06-2015 04:38 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 04:25 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Auburn
Florida State
Pittsburgh
Virginia Tech
C-USA Champion (WKU)
MWC Champion (SDSU)
Marshall, 9-3
Toledo, 9-2

That's a very strong line-up of bowl opponents

This. AAC probably got the best it could this year.

Totally agree. Not too shabby overall...

(12-06-2015 07:29 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 07:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 06:48 PM)Mr Hyde Wrote:  

(12-06-2015 03:56 PM)pesik Wrote:  overall not bad..i wish we could switch temple and tulsa.

no offense to tulsa but temple deserved that bowl

Pesik seems obsessed wth Tulsa's bowl destination for some strange reason. She doesn't seem to understand that the Independence Bowl selected Tulsa due to proximity. Theywould have picked Temple had they wanted them.

Tulsa has played in the Independence twice and took good crowds both times. I'm sure the bowl organizers recognize that.

It would be much easier to just say congratulations and good luck instead of constantly complaining. Putting "no offense" in each of your posts just shows that you're trying to be offensive.

1) he not she

2) i clearly explained earlier "id be upset if it was the other way around...when Tulsa turns their ship around, and lets say they won 10 games on a year beating Oklahoma first time in a while, ranked most the season ...i wouldnt want them to get Toledo with while a 6-6 temple got Arkansas"

3) the indy bowl had last choice of the bowls (technically second to last, but last for available teams)....they even had offered mizzou literally a week ago to avoid taking our last team, why mizzou released a statement declining a bowl as a 5-7 team

SEC Football ‏@SECfootball Nov 30
Mizzou declines Independence Bowl invitation

it wasnt about proximity, it was about getting what was available
like i noted earlier it was not the fault of aac, or tulsa, or temple, the match-up was likely just luck, but i wished the stars aligned that temple could have gotten it...

The bowl wants to sell some tickets. They are far more likely to prefer a school within driving distance, especially when that school has sold a lot of tickets for prior appearances, than one from halfway across the country for a 12/26 game.

Temple/Va Tech would would have played before an empty stadium.

Did the voices in your head tell you that?

(12-06-2015 07:38 PM)LlamaLG Wrote:  So apparently Pesik is a girl, I never knew that.

lol im a boy not girl....catfishing is more shere's style

If Im a Temple player

would I rather go to Boca Raton for a week and play a really good team or lousy Shreveport for a week and play a crappy Va Tech team.

(12-06-2015 06:33 PM)pesik Wrote:  UofMstateU ttech and WVU would have just switched... the big 12 wasnt giving up the liberty if they werent forced too

(which is what everyone was projecting pre kstate eligibility), i never saw a Memphis projection

ESPN bowl projection:
Liberty Bowl in Memphis
Saturday, Jan. 2, 3:20 p.m.
Schlabach: Texas Tech vs. LSU
McMurphy: Texas Tech vs. Georgia

secondly the liberty bowl is contracted to our champion if it becomes available, and second place if our champion is in the Access..memphis is technically #4

ill just let you believe what you want, but will say i have hard time believing the liberty would unnecessarily spurn the big 12 (who it was even lucky to be in partnership with) when it didnt need to and then skipped the AAC protocol, which im not even sure they are contractually allowed

I'm thrilled with Auburn in Birmingham...if not the Peach Bowl, that;s the best we could hope for.