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(12-10-2015 09:14 AM)TheBigEastSucks Wrote:  
(12-09-2015 06:02 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  So essentially the money saved from the Adidas deal will pay Ruff's buyout?

I am starting to warm up to compher. 2 national championships and a shot at unc. The unc board is starting to meltdown already and not even announced yet.

1. Godwin hire
2. Adidas contract
3. Chizik for the win

Good luck. I just hope you're not getting this guy.

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And that you get THIS guy (the one on the left). 04-cheers

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(01-04-2016 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://aacfootballfever.com/the-american...rates.html

Class act.
I highly doubt Montgomery will rack up more wins than Ruff. Since he'll be a "CEO coach" I'm not sure what extra ECU is getting out of the deal. It'll just be a different set of assistants. There is no offensive or defensive guru making ECU a signature program in his image.

This recruiting class is going to have to be Montgomery's 'signature' achievement. If its not noticeably better than Ruffs, then that wont be a good sign.

It'll be interesting to see how the change in philosophies will affect the personnel they do have.

Good luck to ECU and Ruff (who was made the #2 man at a P5 school before ECU even had their applicant pool together). It doesn't look good.

Hopefully those busy bodies will turn their attention to basketball while they're at it. Its a laughingstock. Lol
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Quote:has no ill feelings toward the university

Oh really...

Quote:we are a laughing stock

That seems to imply there are ill feelings...


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(01-04-2016 08:34 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://aacfootballfever.com/the-american...rates.html

Class act.
I highly doubt Montgomery will rack up more wins than Ruff. Since he'll be a "CEO coach" I'm not sure what extra ECU is getting out of the deal. It'll just be a different set of assistants. There is no offensive or defensive guru making ECU a signature program in his image.

This recruiting class is going to have to be Montgomery's 'signature' achievement. If its not noticeably better than Ruffs, then that wont be a good sign.

It'll be interesting to see how the change in philosophies will affect the personnel they do have.

Good luck to ECU and Ruff (who was made the #2 man at a P5 school before ECU even had their applicant pool together). It doesn't look good.

Hopefully those busy bodies will turn their attention to basketball while they're at it. Its a laughingstock. Lol

It should be noted that Ruff was the "CEO" type coach as well; his problem was that he was loyal to a fault and would not make changes when it was obvious to everyone that changes needed to be made.

I was a Ruff fan and think that he should have been given another year. However, I also like our new coach. He has put together a better staff (looking at the resumes it's really not arguable). He is a noted recruiter (Ruff was as well) and has NFL experience which should help him land a few more highly rated players (not that I've ever been too concerned about "stars").

Time will tell if he's going to be more successful than Ruff or less. He has a good stable of QBs to choose from along with other players; I don't think that anyone will be able to say that Ruff did not leave us in better shape than he found us, that's for sure.

Finally, I don't expect the offense to change much. We're still going to be a spread team... but well will likely have more plays in addition to a large number of formations, which might cause a few problems in year one. We should also run the ball more.

I guess we'll find out.
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(01-04-2016 08:34 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://aacfootballfever.com/the-american...rates.html

Class act.
I highly doubt Montgomery will rack up more wins than Ruff. Since he'll be a "CEO coach" I'm not sure what extra ECU is getting out of the deal. It'll just be a different set of assistants. There is no offensive or defensive guru making ECU a signature program in his image.

This recruiting class is going to have to be Montgomery's 'signature' achievement. If its not noticeably better than Ruffs, then that wont be a good sign.

It'll be interesting to see how the change in philosophies will affect the personnel they do have.

Good luck to ECU and Ruff (who was made the #2 man at a P5 school before ECU even had their applicant pool together). It doesn't look good.

Hopefully those busy bodies will turn their attention to basketball while they're at it. Its a laughingstock. Lol

What a very troll like comment haha.
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(01-04-2016 08:41 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
Quote:has no ill feelings toward the university

Oh really...

Quote:we are a laughing stock

That seems to imply there are ill feelings...


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In Ruffins defense though, I'm sure he was hearing that ECU was a laughing stock from all the reporters (like McMurphy) and coaches (like Bronco) that were burning up his phone.

ECU did get more than a CEO with Ruff. He gave them an identity with the Air Raid, that he brought from Tech with Riley. That was a huge part of the deal that was really starting to take root, after having to turn over the personnel. Riley was at ECU long enough to build that offensive culture (which never really had a chance to flourish this year with the QB injuries).

Ripping out that culture that Ruff brought with him, as more than just a CEO, will take time to replace. It was counterproductive. That's why I've been critical, along with all the pundits.

Montgomery may do ok. IF his regime isn't judged too harshly, over time. If he doesn't knock off the big dogs like Ruff used to, then I suspect that his term will be looked at as a failure.
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(01-04-2016 09:00 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 08:41 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
Quote:has no ill feelings toward the university

Oh really...

Quote:we are a laughing stock

That seems to imply there are ill feelings...


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In Ruffins defense though, I'm sure he was hearing that ECU was a laughing stock from all the reporters (like McMurphy) and coaches (like Bronco) that were burning up his phone.

ECU did get more than a CEO with Ruff. He gave them an identity with the Air Raid, that he brought from Tech with Riley. That was a huge part of the deal that was really starting to take root, after having to turn over the personnel. Riley was at ECU long enough to build that offensive culture (which never really had a chance to flourish this year with the QB injuries).

Ripping out that culture that Ruff brought with him, as more than just a CEO, will take time to replace. It was counterproductive. That's why I've been critical, along with all the pundits.

Montgomery may do ok. IF his regime isn't judged too harshly, over time. If he doesn't knock off the big dogs like Ruff used to, then I suspect that his term will be looked at as a failure.

Could say the same thing about Montgomery bringing the Cutcliffe, Tomlin, Arians influences with him - alongside him being a former NFL'er, a highly respected regional recruiter, and a young/energetic/articulate coach.

You, again, have no idea what you're talking about. You don't judge a coach off of their first recruiting class. You said that above. Are you stupider than hell? We're going to judge him on his first recruiting class? Your stupid comments are so full of holes.
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(01-04-2016 08:42 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 08:34 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://aacfootballfever.com/the-american...rates.html

Class act.
I highly doubt Montgomery will rack up more wins than Ruff. Since he'll be a "CEO coach" I'm not sure what extra ECU is getting out of the deal. It'll just be a different set of assistants. There is no offensive or defensive guru making ECU a signature program in his image.

This recruiting class is going to have to be Montgomery's 'signature' achievement. If its not noticeably better than Ruffs, then that wont be a good sign.

It'll be interesting to see how the change in philosophies will affect the personnel they do have.

Good luck to ECU and Ruff (who was made the #2 man at a P5 school before ECU even had their applicant pool together). It doesn't look good.

Hopefully those busy bodies will turn their attention to basketball while they're at it. Its a laughingstock. Lol

It should be noted that Ruff was the "CEO" type coach as well; his problem was that he was loyal to a fault and would not make changes when it was obvious to everyone that changes needed to be made.

I was a Ruff fan and think that he should have been given another year. However, I also like our new coach. He has put together a better staff (looking at the resumes it's really not arguable). He is a noted recruiter (Ruff was as well) and has NFL experience which should help him land a few more highly rated players (not that I've ever been too concerned about "stars").

Time will tell if he's going to be more successful than Ruff or less. He has a good stable of QBs to choose from along with other players; I don't think that anyone will be able to say that Ruff did not leave us in better shape than he found us, that's for sure.

Finally, I don't expect the offense to change much. We're still going to be a spread team... but well will likely have more plays in addition to a large number of formations, which might cause a few problems in year one. We should also run the ball more.

I guess we'll find out.

One question I've wished would be asked, is his thoughts on the QB that has divided our fanbase. Nelson I think his name is. With Ruff it was pure and simple, he talked to the young man and felt it would be worthwhile to give him a second chance. I wonder if Mo feels the same or not.


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(01-04-2016 09:16 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 08:42 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 08:34 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://aacfootballfever.com/the-american...rates.html

Class act.
I highly doubt Montgomery will rack up more wins than Ruff. Since he'll be a "CEO coach" I'm not sure what extra ECU is getting out of the deal. It'll just be a different set of assistants. There is no offensive or defensive guru making ECU a signature program in his image.

This recruiting class is going to have to be Montgomery's 'signature' achievement. If its not noticeably better than Ruffs, then that wont be a good sign.

It'll be interesting to see how the change in philosophies will affect the personnel they do have.

Good luck to ECU and Ruff (who was made the #2 man at a P5 school before ECU even had their applicant pool together). It doesn't look good.

Hopefully those busy bodies will turn their attention to basketball while they're at it. Its a laughingstock. Lol

It should be noted that Ruff was the "CEO" type coach as well; his problem was that he was loyal to a fault and would not make changes when it was obvious to everyone that changes needed to be made.

I was a Ruff fan and think that he should have been given another year. However, I also like our new coach. He has put together a better staff (looking at the resumes it's really not arguable). He is a noted recruiter (Ruff was as well) and has NFL experience which should help him land a few more highly rated players (not that I've ever been too concerned about "stars").

Time will tell if he's going to be more successful than Ruff or less. He has a good stable of QBs to choose from along with other players; I don't think that anyone will be able to say that Ruff did not leave us in better shape than he found us, that's for sure.

Finally, I don't expect the offense to change much. We're still going to be a spread team... but well will likely have more plays in addition to a large number of formations, which might cause a few problems in year one. We should also run the ball more.

I guess we'll find out.

One question I've wished would be asked, is his thoughts on the QB that has divided our fanbase. Nelson I think his name is. With Ruff it was pure and simple, he talked to the young man and felt it would be worthwhile to give him a second chance. I wonder if Mo feels the same or not.


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Nelson didn't split the fan base. It was more "oh gosh Ruff took that guy...well if he's good enough for him..."
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(01-04-2016 09:13 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 09:00 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 08:41 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
Quote:has no ill feelings toward the university

Oh really...

Quote:we are a laughing stock

That seems to imply there are ill feelings...


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In Ruffins defense though, I'm sure he was hearing that ECU was a laughing stock from all the reporters (like McMurphy) and coaches (like Bronco) that were burning up his phone.

ECU did get more than a CEO with Ruff. He gave them an identity with the Air Raid, that he brought from Tech with Riley. That was a huge part of the deal that was really starting to take root, after having to turn over the personnel. Riley was at ECU long enough to build that offensive culture (which never really had a chance to flourish this year with the QB injuries).

Ripping out that culture that Ruff brought with him, as more than just a CEO, will take time to replace. It was counterproductive. That's why I've been critical, along with all the pundits.

Montgomery may do ok. IF his regime isn't judged too harshly, over time. If he doesn't knock off the big dogs like Ruff used to, then I suspect that his term will be looked at as a failure.

Could say the same thing about Montgomery bringing the Cutcliffe, Tomlin, Arians influences with him - alongside him being a former NFL'er, a highly respected regional recruiter, and a young/energetic/articulate coach.

You, again, have no idea what you're talking about. You don't judge a coach off of their first recruiting class. You said that above. Are you stupider than hell? We're going to judge him on his first recruiting class? Your stupid comments are so full of holes.

The "articulate" comment pretty much sums up where you're coming from.
That being said, what you fail to realize is that ECU would have been able to actually UPGRADE if you would have slowed your roll and let Ruff sink or swim next year.
Tulane was able to attract a sitting HC from a lower tier fbs conference. TULANE!! Looking at ECU's candidate pool (unheralded ACs and retreads), its pretty obvious that the up and coming HCs (like Brohm and the kid from Michigan) were avoiding that job like the plague.
Montgomery is not an upgrade. Ruff has more respect after his ECU run than Montgomery has coming in... No matter how well you understand his drawl.
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(01-04-2016 09:53 PM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  
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(01-04-2016 08:42 PM)Ned Low Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 08:34 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 07:16 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  http://aacfootballfever.com/the-american...rates.html

Class act.
I highly doubt Montgomery will rack up more wins than Ruff. Since he'll be a "CEO coach" I'm not sure what extra ECU is getting out of the deal. It'll just be a different set of assistants. There is no offensive or defensive guru making ECU a signature program in his image.

This recruiting class is going to have to be Montgomery's 'signature' achievement. If its not noticeably better than Ruffs, then that wont be a good sign.

It'll be interesting to see how the change in philosophies will affect the personnel they do have.

Good luck to ECU and Ruff (who was made the #2 man at a P5 school before ECU even had their applicant pool together). It doesn't look good.

Hopefully those busy bodies will turn their attention to basketball while they're at it. Its a laughingstock. Lol

It should be noted that Ruff was the "CEO" type coach as well; his problem was that he was loyal to a fault and would not make changes when it was obvious to everyone that changes needed to be made.

I was a Ruff fan and think that he should have been given another year. However, I also like our new coach. He has put together a better staff (looking at the resumes it's really not arguable). He is a noted recruiter (Ruff was as well) and has NFL experience which should help him land a few more highly rated players (not that I've ever been too concerned about "stars").

Time will tell if he's going to be more successful than Ruff or less. He has a good stable of QBs to choose from along with other players; I don't think that anyone will be able to say that Ruff did not leave us in better shape than he found us, that's for sure.

Finally, I don't expect the offense to change much. We're still going to be a spread team... but well will likely have more plays in addition to a large number of formations, which might cause a few problems in year one. We should also run the ball more.

I guess we'll find out.

One question I've wished would be asked, is his thoughts on the QB that has divided our fanbase. Nelson I think his name is. With Ruff it was pure and simple, he talked to the young man and felt it would be worthwhile to give him a second chance. I wonder if Mo feels the same or not.


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Nelson didn't split the fan base. It was more "oh gosh Ruff took that guy...well if he's good enough for him..."

No a good chunk of fans are dead set on hoping he never sees the field due to his past.


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(01-04-2016 09:56 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 09:13 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 09:00 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 08:41 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
Quote:has no ill feelings toward the university

Oh really...

Quote:we are a laughing stock

That seems to imply there are ill feelings...


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In Ruffins defense though, I'm sure he was hearing that ECU was a laughing stock from all the reporters (like McMurphy) and coaches (like Bronco) that were burning up his phone.

ECU did get more than a CEO with Ruff. He gave them an identity with the Air Raid, that he brought from Tech with Riley. That was a huge part of the deal that was really starting to take root, after having to turn over the personnel. Riley was at ECU long enough to build that offensive culture (which never really had a chance to flourish this year with the QB injuries).

Ripping out that culture that Ruff brought with him, as more than just a CEO, will take time to replace. It was counterproductive. That's why I've been critical, along with all the pundits.

Montgomery may do ok. IF his regime isn't judged too harshly, over time. If he doesn't knock off the big dogs like Ruff used to, then I suspect that his term will be looked at as a failure.

Could say the same thing about Montgomery bringing the Cutcliffe, Tomlin, Arians influences with him - alongside him being a former NFL'er, a highly respected regional recruiter, and a young/energetic/articulate coach.

You, again, have no idea what you're talking about. You don't judge a coach off of their first recruiting class. You said that above. Are you stupider than hell? We're going to judge him on his first recruiting class? Your stupid comments are so full of holes.

The "articulate" comment pretty much sums up where you're coming from.
That being said, what you fail to realize is that ECU would have been able to actually UPGRADE if you would have slowed your roll and let Ruff sink or swim next year.
Tulane was able to attract a sitting HC from a lower tier fbs conference. TULANE!! Looking at ECU's candidate pool (unheralded ACs and retreads), its pretty obvious that the up and coming HCs (like Brohm and the kid from Michigan) were avoiding that job like the plague.
Montgomery is not an upgrade. Ruff has more respect after his ECU run than Montgomery has coming in... No matter how well you understand his drawl.

You don't waste a year. You just don't. From a business standpoint - specifically with the stadium upgrades announcement upcoming - we needed to shake things up. The culture of the football program was lacking in a number of ways, and Ruffin to his credit/discredit depending on how you want to look at it, is a stubborn guy.

None of the things that you're saying are obvious. We don't know how the process went, who was interviewed, and how the whole thing went down. We just don't. The only person that we were fairly certain got an interview at some point was Brady Hoke, and even then there's still question marks as to whether or not it happened. Everything else was speculation. No one knows the actual pool of coaches, or who was contacted. So again, you've got no idea what you're talking about.

And yeah, you know, there's a certain few qualities that are non-negotiable for a leader making a 7 digit salary, and effective communication to ALL involved (fans, boosters, admin, staff, and players) is one of them. We've had booster problems, grade problems, alumni problems, and even his S&C coach who is one of the most respected people within ECU Athletics flat out called him out on the RADIO after he got fired. He failed at that just as much at times as he's CONSISTENTLY failed at managing football games.

Oh, looks like you're not able to call me a racist since I'm sticking up for an African American over an African American, I'm so sorry that you're not going to be able to make that misinformed comment too on top of all of the other stupid sh*t you constantly say on here. You're a piece of trash for even indirectly hinting such.

There is a significant trickle down effect to a lack of distinct and straight forward leadership. Just because Ruffin is a great person whom I admire tremendously, that doesn't make him the best fit for an FBS head coaching job. Weaknesses are just as important as strengths, and one doesn't cancel out another - it's all a matter of degrees. How significant are your weaknesses in a situation vs. your strengths in that same situation?

Bronco Mendenhall didn't even give Ruffin the keys to his UVA defense! He was just a head coach!! I mean, you can spin anything any way you want. I love Ruffin, but it was time. And you have no idea whether or not Coach Mo is an upgrade because no games have been played and he just started his job 4 days ago. You have no idea what you're talking about.

Ruffin, at the end of the day, is a strong motivator and recruiter. That doesn't always get the job done, and it doesn't always make a fanbase confident. There are zillions of other examples of the same kind of person getting fired.
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Thousands gather to say well done to Ruffin McNeill

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(01-04-2016 09:56 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 09:13 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 09:00 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 08:41 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
Quote:has no ill feelings toward the university

Oh really...

Quote:we are a laughing stock

That seems to imply there are ill feelings...


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In Ruffins defense though, I'm sure he was hearing that ECU was a laughing stock from all the reporters (like McMurphy) and coaches (like Bronco) that were burning up his phone.

ECU did get more than a CEO with Ruff. He gave them an identity with the Air Raid, that he brought from Tech with Riley. That was a huge part of the deal that was really starting to take root, after having to turn over the personnel. Riley was at ECU long enough to build that offensive culture (which never really had a chance to flourish this year with the QB injuries).

Ripping out that culture that Ruff brought with him, as more than just a CEO, will take time to replace. It was counterproductive. That's why I've been critical, along with all the pundits.

Montgomery may do ok. IF his regime isn't judged too harshly, over time. If he doesn't knock off the big dogs like Ruff used to, then I suspect that his term will be looked at as a failure.

Could say the same thing about Montgomery bringing the Cutcliffe, Tomlin, Arians influences with him - alongside him being a former NFL'er, a highly respected regional recruiter, and a young/energetic/articulate coach.

You, again, have no idea what you're talking about. You don't judge a coach off of their first recruiting class. You said that above. Are you stupider than hell? We're going to judge him on his first recruiting class? Your stupid comments are so full of holes.

The "articulate" comment pretty much sums up where you're coming from.
That being said, what you fail to realize is that ECU would have been able to actually UPGRADE if you would have slowed your roll and let Ruff sink or swim next year.
Tulane was able to attract a sitting HC from a lower tier fbs conference. TULANE!! Looking at ECU's candidate pool (unheralded ACs and retreads), its pretty obvious that the up and coming HCs (like Brohm and the kid from Michigan) were avoiding that job like the plague.
Montgomery is not an upgrade. Ruff has more respect after his ECU run than Montgomery has coming in... No matter how well you understand his drawl.

Man, I love it when people state opinions as facts. I love it even more when they speculate without any real information and pass their judgments as facts. 03-lmfao It totally discredits them...but it is funny to see them think they know it all. 03-lmfao03-lmfao03-lmfao
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(01-04-2016 10:34 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  This might make your eyeballs sweat. Skip to 2:44.




I won't lie...Ruff had some of the best pre-game speeches ever. His "want some get some" speech is the best ever IMO. He does have a place in college football. Being a HC just wasn't it. JC leading cheers and chants is awesome to. Glad we won't lose that.
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(01-04-2016 10:34 PM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  This might make your eyeballs sweat. Skip to 2:44.




I won't lie...Ruff had some of the best pre-game speeches ever. His "want some get some" speech is the best ever IMO. He does have a place in college football. Being a HC just wasn't it. JC leading cheers and chants is awesome to. Glad we won't lose that.

Agree 100%. He'll always be one of the best recruiters, motivators, and people in the business as long as he wants to be. He just didn't have a number of those "it" factors required to be a winning HC - one of them being a killer instinct.
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(01-04-2016 09:56 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 09:13 PM)PiratePanther189 Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 09:00 PM)BigEastHomer Wrote:  
(01-04-2016 08:41 PM)PurpleReigns2012 Wrote:  
Quote:has no ill feelings toward the university

Oh really...

Quote:we are a laughing stock

That seems to imply there are ill feelings...


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In Ruffins defense though, I'm sure he was hearing that ECU was a laughing stock from all the reporters (like McMurphy) and coaches (like Bronco) that were burning up his phone.

ECU did get more than a CEO with Ruff. He gave them an identity with the Air Raid, that he brought from Tech with Riley. That was a huge part of the deal that was really starting to take root, after having to turn over the personnel. Riley was at ECU long enough to build that offensive culture (which never really had a chance to flourish this year with the QB injuries).

Ripping out that culture that Ruff brought with him, as more than just a CEO, will take time to replace. It was counterproductive. That's why I've been critical, along with all the pundits.

Montgomery may do ok. IF his regime isn't judged too harshly, over time. If he doesn't knock off the big dogs like Ruff used to, then I suspect that his term will be looked at as a failure.

Could say the same thing about Montgomery bringing the Cutcliffe, Tomlin, Arians influences with him - alongside him being a former NFL'er, a highly respected regional recruiter, and a young/energetic/articulate coach.

You, again, have no idea what you're talking about. You don't judge a coach off of their first recruiting class. You said that above. Are you stupider than hell? We're going to judge him on his first recruiting class? Your stupid comments are so full of holes.

The "articulate" comment pretty much sums up where you're coming from.
That being said, what you fail to realize is that ECU would have been able to actually UPGRADE if you would have slowed your roll and let Ruff sink or swim next year.
Tulane was able to attract a sitting HC from a lower tier fbs conference. TULANE!! Looking at ECU's candidate pool (unheralded ACs and retreads), its pretty obvious that the up and coming HCs (like Brohm and the kid from Michigan) were avoiding that job like the plague.
Montgomery is not an upgrade. Ruff has more respect after his ECU run than Montgomery has coming in... No matter how well you understand his drawl.

Angry little fella aren't you. Just throwing a bunch of crap out there and waiting to see what sticks.
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