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Maybe we need to just club Norton and Watts like a baby seal and let Love run the show?
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Is Big Dee auditioning for a trolling role?
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This is still a young team the coach is placing on the court. We depend on four 2nd year players for the bulk of our scoring and quality minutes. My starting line-up for Monday's game.

Norton
Baxter
Mehenti
Brown
Lee

I know its the same starting line up we have played with for most of the last 30 games, yes and it was the same line up won 3 straight games until Coach decided to shake it up and I believed the team needed shaking up. And it was the coach decision and I thought it was good decision at the time.

Coke is playing the best among our big men, but, the rotation is best with Coke coming in for Mehenti and Sullivan for Lee.
Dirk and Brown need to play together more, their length created some problems in both games
Baxter is still one of our best players.
I believe we will start seeing less experimentation with the line-up and establish a set rotation with Mehenti starting but sharing minutes with Coke and Sullivan.

Coach was out coached against Illinois, I suspect he wasn't prepared for the return of the Illinois players and the match up problems they presented, I would have played more zone..
The team needs to come out and play better away from home, we cannot have the same away record as last year.
I still don't know who the leader is on this team, you would want your upper classmen to have that role, but I am just not seeing it.

We badly need leadership on this team, We need an established rotation. We need our guys to play stronger and with confidence we need them to play like they have been there and done it before. I believe the lost to VT will help us grow up more then any win we have had so far.
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How in the hell did Chad Frazier end up in this conversation?
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(11-30-2015 01:29 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  How in the hell did Chad Frazier end up in this conversation?

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(11-30-2015 01:29 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  How in the hell did Chad Frazier end up in this conversation?

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(11-30-2015 01:27 PM)Rebounder4u Wrote:  This is still a young team the coach is placing on the court. We depend on four 2nd year players for the bulk of our scoring and quality minutes. My starting line-up for Monday's game.

Norton
Baxter
Mehenti
Brown
Lee

I know its the same starting line up we have played with for most of the last 30 games, yes and it was the same line up won 3 straight games until Coach decided to shake it up and I believed the team needed shaking up. And it was the coach decision and I thought it was good decision at the time.

Coke is playing the best among our big men, but, the rotation is best with Coke coming in for Mehenti and Sullivan for Lee.
Dirk and Brown need to play together more, their length created some problems in both games
Baxter is still one of our best players.
I believe we will start seeing less experimentation with the line-up and establish a set rotation with Mehenti starting but sharing minutes with Coke and Sullivan.

Coach was out coached against Illinois, I suspect he wasn't prepared for the return of the Illinois players and the match up problems they presented, I would have played more zone..
The team needs to come out and play better away from home, we cannot have the same away record as last year.
I still don't know who the leader is on this team, you would want your upper classmen to have that role, but I am just not seeing it.

We badly need leadership on this team, We need an established rotation. We need our guys to play stronger and with confidence we need them to play like they have been there and done it before. I believe the lost to VT will help us grow up more then any win we have had so far.
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Let's not forget we are a very young team that has stared the season with 4 games away from Bartow and 2 at home. 2 of the 3 losses are toss ups. The 3rd (Illinois), in my opinion, had nothing to do with being out coached. Illinois had 3 contributors, 1 being their best player, come back with no notice given to anyone. That's basketball. They had hours and hours of tape of our team as you see it. With those 3 players coming back it put us at a MAJOR disadvantage. With that being said, we still could have one if we'd shot just a little better.
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(11-30-2015 01:29 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  How in the hell did Chad Frazier end up in this conversation?

He's relevant in all basketball related topics!

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And anywhere a laptop or volleyball player is in danger.

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RE: Virgina Tech Thread
(11-30-2015 12:16 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:55 AM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:46 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  The great UAB point guards have been more complete players. They can beat a press, shoot, penetrate, distribute, and defend. Norton can shoot and is pretty efficient with the ball but he doesn't penetrate and gives up a lot on D. Watts is pretty good pushing the ball but struggles in the half court. His D is also pretty inconsistent.

Hopefully one or both of these guys can get it turned around but I liked the idea I read on here about Brown running point. He has the handle and vision to be pretty effective there if he can limit turnovers. I think it would make us much tougher to guard.


Drop some names.

AJ and Squeaky Johnson in the 2000s, before that Glenn Marcus and Steve Mitchell. Our best four pg's but just one Blazer's opinion.

*Stanley Jackson is right there but I'm not sure he'd be considered a point guard. When his cousin Corey played he was definitely a SG.


Well I'm not familiar with any Bartow coached players outside of the guys some bring up. PD3 is a combo guard and he was great. The only great pg in the time frame us squeaky. Aj was overrated IMHO.
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RE: Virgina Tech Thread
(11-30-2015 03:36 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 12:16 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:55 AM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:46 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  The great UAB point guards have been more complete players. They can beat a press, shoot, penetrate, distribute, and defend. Norton can shoot and is pretty efficient with the ball but he doesn't penetrate and gives up a lot on D. Watts is pretty good pushing the ball but struggles in the half court. His D is also pretty inconsistent.

Hopefully one or both of these guys can get it turned around but I liked the idea I read on here about Brown running point. He has the handle and vision to be pretty effective there if he can limit turnovers. I think it would make us much tougher to guard.


Drop some names.

AJ and Squeaky Johnson in the 2000s, before that Glenn Marcus and Steve Mitchell. Our best four pg's but just one Blazer's opinion.

*Stanley Jackson is right there but I'm not sure he'd be considered a point guard. When his cousin Corey played he was definitely a SG.


Well I'm not familiar with any Bartow coached players outside of the guys some bring up. PD3 is a combo guard and he was great. The only great pg in the time frame us squeaky. Aj was overrated IMHO.

Delaney and Stamp Jackson were very similar. Explosive leapers with good all around game. Stanley even made it to the Show with the T'wolves for a short while.

I agree about AJ but he does have a conference title and an NCAA appearance. He makes my cut for elite UAB pg's but Steve and Squeaky are on another level. Steve played in four NCAA tournaments and Squeaky three. That's the caliber of player we need running the show to really elevate our program.
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RE: Virgina Tech Thread
(11-30-2015 03:58 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:36 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 12:16 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:55 AM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:46 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  The great UAB point guards have been more complete players. They can beat a press, shoot, penetrate, distribute, and defend. Norton can shoot and is pretty efficient with the ball but he doesn't penetrate and gives up a lot on D. Watts is pretty good pushing the ball but struggles in the half court. His D is also pretty inconsistent.

Hopefully one or both of these guys can get it turned around but I liked the idea I read on here about Brown running point. He has the handle and vision to be pretty effective there if he can limit turnovers. I think it would make us much tougher to guard.


Drop some names.

AJ and Squeaky Johnson in the 2000s, before that Glenn Marcus and Steve Mitchell. Our best four pg's but just one Blazer's opinion.

*Stanley Jackson is right there but I'm not sure he'd be considered a point guard. When his cousin Corey played he was definitely a SG.


Well I'm not familiar with any Bartow coached players outside of the guys some bring up. PD3 is a combo guard and he was great. The only great pg in the time frame us squeaky. Aj was overrated IMHO.

Delaney and Stamp Jackson were very similar. Explosive leapers with good all around game. Stanley even made it to the Show with the T'wolves for a short while.

I agree about AJ but he does have a conference title and an NCAA appearance. He makes my cut for elite UAB pg's but Steve and Squeaky are on another level. Steve played in four NCAA tournaments and Squeaky three. That's the caliber of player we need running the show to really elevate our program.


To me its obvious Nick won't get to that level. That's partly my point Anderson and Davis had that one PG that you tie HC success to maybe two. Haase still needs to find that guy. He's giving everyone a shot to play and it could be his down fall.
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(11-30-2015 03:58 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:36 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 12:16 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:55 AM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:46 AM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  The great UAB point guards have been more complete players. They can beat a press, shoot, penetrate, distribute, and defend. Norton can shoot and is pretty efficient with the ball but he doesn't penetrate and gives up a lot on D. Watts is pretty good pushing the ball but struggles in the half court. His D is also pretty inconsistent.

Hopefully one or both of these guys can get it turned around but I liked the idea I read on here about Brown running point. He has the handle and vision to be pretty effective there if he can limit turnovers. I think it would make us much tougher to guard.


Drop some names.

AJ and Squeaky Johnson in the 2000s, before that Glenn Marcus and Steve Mitchell. Our best four pg's but just one Blazer's opinion.

*Stanley Jackson is right there but I'm not sure he'd be considered a point guard. When his cousin Corey played he was definitely a SG.


Well I'm not familiar with any Bartow coached players outside of the guys some bring up. PD3 is a combo guard and he was great. The only great pg in the time frame us squeaky. Aj was overrated IMHO.

Delaney and Stamp Jackson were very similar. Explosive leapers with good all around game. Stanley even made it to the Show with the T'wolves for a short while.

I agree about AJ but he does have a conference title and an NCAA appearance. He makes my cut for elite UAB pg's but Steve and Squeaky are on another level. Steve played in four NCAA tournaments and Squeaky three. That's the caliber of player we need running the show to really elevate our program.

Stanley Jackson is still employed in the Timberwolves front office.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/stanleyjackson
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Who was point guard in 1981 when UAB finished 25-6 and lost by 7 in the Final Eight? Was it Jonath Nicholas or Luellen Foster? Glenn Marcus graduated the previous year and they had to fill the gap at point guard position in 1981-82.
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RE: Virgina Tech Thread
(11-30-2015 04:02 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:58 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:36 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 12:16 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:55 AM)Big Dee Wrote:  Drop some names.

AJ and Squeaky Johnson in the 2000s, before that Glenn Marcus and Steve Mitchell. Our best four pg's but just one Blazer's opinion.

*Stanley Jackson is right there but I'm not sure he'd be considered a point guard. When his cousin Corey played he was definitely a SG.


Well I'm not familiar with any Bartow coached players outside of the guys some bring up. PD3 is a combo guard and he was great. The only great pg in the time frame us squeaky. Aj was overrated IMHO.

Delaney and Stamp Jackson were very similar. Explosive leapers with good all around game. Stanley even made it to the Show with the T'wolves for a short while.

I agree about AJ but he does have a conference title and an NCAA appearance. He makes my cut for elite UAB pg's but Steve and Squeaky are on another level. Steve played in four NCAA tournaments and Squeaky three. That's the caliber of player we need running the show to really elevate our program.


To me its obvious Nick won't get to that level. That's partly my point Anderson and Davis had that one PG that you tie HC success to maybe two. Haase still needs to find that guy. He's giving everyone a shot to play and it could be his down fall.

AJ didn't make the leap until his junior and senior season. Nick's stats to this point are comparable to AJ's junior year, so I don't think it's obvious at all that Nick won't get to that level. If anything, the numbers say he will.
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(11-30-2015 04:02 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:58 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:36 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 12:16 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 11:55 AM)Big Dee Wrote:  Drop some names.

AJ and Squeaky Johnson in the 2000s, before that Glenn Marcus and Steve Mitchell. Our best four pg's but just one Blazer's opinion.

*Stanley Jackson is right there but I'm not sure he'd be considered a point guard. When his cousin Corey played he was definitely a SG.


Well I'm not familiar with any Bartow coached players outside of the guys some bring up. PD3 is a combo guard and he was great. The only great pg in the time frame us squeaky. Aj was overrated IMHO.

Delaney and Stamp Jackson were very similar. Explosive leapers with good all around game. Stanley even made it to the Show with the T'wolves for a short while.

I agree about AJ but he does have a conference title and an NCAA appearance. He makes my cut for elite UAB pg's but Steve and Squeaky are on another level. Steve played in four NCAA tournaments and Squeaky three. That's the caliber of player we need running the show to really elevate our program.

Stanley Jackson is still employed in the Timberwolves front office.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/stanleyjackson

Awesome. Stanley and George Wilkerson were very fun players to watch in that era.

By the way, do you remember who was playing point the season we went up to bowling green and won the Sun Belt tourney kinda by surprise? Tracy Foster? I was trying to remember all the guys who had played point for us in NCAA games:

Glenn Marcus
Lu Foster
Steve Mitchell
Tracy Foster?
Barry Bearden
Corey Jackson
LeAndrew Bass/Eric Holmes
Squeaky Johnson
Anthony Johnson
Nick Norton/Denzell Watts
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(11-30-2015 04:22 PM)TheGORILLA Wrote:  Who was point guard in 1981 when UAB finished 25-6 and lost by 7 in the Final Eight? Was it Jonath Nicholas or Luellen Foster? Glenn Marcus graduated the previous year and they had to fill the gap at point guard position in 1981-82.

Pretty sure it was Foster. He moved to shooting guard the next year when Steve Mitchell took over.
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(11-30-2015 04:30 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 04:02 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:58 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:36 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 12:16 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  AJ and Squeaky Johnson in the 2000s, before that Glenn Marcus and Steve Mitchell. Our best four pg's but just one Blazer's opinion.

*Stanley Jackson is right there but I'm not sure he'd be considered a point guard. When his cousin Corey played he was definitely a SG.


Well I'm not familiar with any Bartow coached players outside of the guys some bring up. PD3 is a combo guard and he was great. The only great pg in the time frame us squeaky. Aj was overrated IMHO.

Delaney and Stamp Jackson were very similar. Explosive leapers with good all around game. Stanley even made it to the Show with the T'wolves for a short while.

I agree about AJ but he does have a conference title and an NCAA appearance. He makes my cut for elite UAB pg's but Steve and Squeaky are on another level. Steve played in four NCAA tournaments and Squeaky three. That's the caliber of player we need running the show to really elevate our program.

Stanley Jackson is still employed in the Timberwolves front office.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/stanleyjackson

Awesome. Stanley and George Wilkerson were very fun players to watch in that era.

By the way, do you remember who was playing point the season we went up to bowling green and won the Sun Belt tourney kinda by surprise? Tracy Foster? I was trying to remember all the guys who had played point for us in NCAA games:

Glenn Marcus
Lu Foster
Steve Mitchell
Tracy Foster?
Barry Bearden
Corey Jackson
LeAndrew Bass/Eric Holmes
Squeaky Johnson
Nick Norton/Denzell Watts

The guards on that team were Foster, Ponder and Michael Charles. Barry Bearden was a freshman and Larry Wiksell subbed as point guard. I think Foster was the primary point guard.

Cedric Dixon was a good point guard, but he was the first four year player to never go to an NCAA tournament. I think Howard Crawford is the only other four year player to never go to an NCAA tournament.
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(11-30-2015 04:30 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 04:02 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:58 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 03:36 PM)Big Dee Wrote:  
(11-30-2015 12:16 PM)BlazerGreen Wrote:  AJ and Squeaky Johnson in the 2000s, before that Glenn Marcus and Steve Mitchell. Our best four pg's but just one Blazer's opinion.

*Stanley Jackson is right there but I'm not sure he'd be considered a point guard. When his cousin Corey played he was definitely a SG.


Well I'm not familiar with any Bartow coached players outside of the guys some bring up. PD3 is a combo guard and he was great. The only great pg in the time frame us squeaky. Aj was overrated IMHO.

Delaney and Stamp Jackson were very similar. Explosive leapers with good all around game. Stanley even made it to the Show with the T'wolves for a short while.

I agree about AJ but he does have a conference title and an NCAA appearance. He makes my cut for elite UAB pg's but Steve and Squeaky are on another level. Steve played in four NCAA tournaments and Squeaky three. That's the caliber of player we need running the show to really elevate our program.

Stanley Jackson is still employed in the Timberwolves front office.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/stanleyjackson

Awesome. Stanley and George Wilkerson were very fun players to watch in that era.

By the way, do you remember who was playing point the season we went up to bowling green and won the Sun Belt tourney kinda by surprise? Tracy Foster? I was trying to remember all the guys who had played point for us in NCAA games:

Glenn Marcus
Lu Foster
Steve Mitchell
Tracy Foster?
Barry Bearden
Corey Jackson
LeAndrew Bass/Eric Holmes
Squeaky Johnson
Nick Norton/Denzell Watts

AJ played in the play in game against Clemson.
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Also, didn't Jack Kramer run point as well, though not the full time point guard.
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