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If Shepherd did come to JMU he would get to play in the new Convo for two years. I would not be surprised if he came to JMU. He could be the starting PG his final two years and Rowe could allow Lewis to play off the ball.

Shepard ain’t coming.

He was a Brady recruit who decommitted when we fired him. I doubt he has any relationship with Rowe.

Justin Byerly‏ @JustinByerly


Former Asheville Christian standout Jordan Shepherd has heard from Georgia Tech, Clemson, South Carolina, Wake Forest, UNCC, SFA, College of Charleston, St. John's, San Diego and Penn. Sit one, play two.

BTW unrelated but found this interesting- JMU recruited Hueitt Jr. originally but ODU put them on the restricted list in granting him his release (along with all CUSA programs, VCU, Richmond, and W&M. I guess they still consider us a rival.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...71fcf.html

(04-07-2018 09:46 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  BTW unrelated but found this interesting- JMU recruited Hueitt Jr. originally but ODU put them on the restricted list in granting him his release (along with all CUSA programs, VCU, Richmond, and W&M. I guess they still consider us a rival.

https://pilotonline.com/sports/college/o...71fcf.html

I don't understand how this works...he's not an indentured servant. If he is granted his release and transfers, ODU is not paying his way, and he has to sit out a year. He should be able to play for anyone he wants (that will offer a scholarship). Years ago, when Joe Flacco wanted to transfer out of Pitt. the Pitt coach was an ass and refused to grant him a release, so Flacco sat out a year paying his own tuition.

(04-07-2018 11:19 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  I don't understand how this works...he's not an indentured servant. If he is granted his release and transfers, ODU is not paying his way, and he has to sit out a year. He should be able to play for anyone he wants (that will offer a scholarship).

Pretty spiteful. It would be amusing to see high profile coaches' reactions to a contract stipulating they had to sit out a year between jobs or were blocked from taking jobs at a slew of P5 schools.

Wanstadt at Pitt may go down as one of the dumbest college coaches of all time. Mickey once said of Flacco, “If he is not good enough to start at Pitt, I have got to see who that starter is. He must be all world or something”.

I don’t have the quote exactly right but you get my drift. Wanstadt letting Flacco go had to be one of the reasons Pitt fired him. What a bonehead.

(04-07-2018 09:59 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  Wanstadt at Pitt may go down as one of the dumbest college coaches of all time. Mickey once said of Flacco, “If he is not good enough to start at Pitt, I have got to see who that starter is. He must be all world or something”.

I don’t have the quote exactly right but you get my drift. Wanstadt letting Flacco go had to be one of the reasons Pitt fired him. What a bonehead.

Tyler Palko was the QB in question.

Gritty QB and no slouch but he is also no Flacco. I am sure Wandstadt fell in love with Palko’s toughness and thought Flacco was a pretty boy. Which one made it to the NFL and won a Super Bowl?

(04-07-2018 11:53 AM)tribe_transfer Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 11:19 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  I don't understand how this works...he's not an indentured servant. If he is granted his release and transfers, ODU is not paying his way, and he has to sit out a year. He should be able to play for anyone he wants (that will offer a scholarship).

Pretty spiteful. It would be amusing to see high profile coaches' reactions to a contract stipulating they had to sit out a year between jobs or were blocked from taking jobs at a slew of P5 schools.

But we did the same thing in softball, restricting players from transferring to a conference school (which I understand) or a state school (which I don't). We had at least 1 I know of who got blocked from VT or UVA, and is now starting at Duke. Others were given the same restriction, and decided to stay. And I agree, it was very spiteful.

(04-07-2018 09:42 AM)NJDuke97 Wrote:  Justin Byerly‏ @JustinByerly


Former Asheville Christian standout Jordan Shepherd has heard from Georgia Tech, Clemson, South Carolina, Wake Forest, UNCC, SFA, College of Charleston, St. John's, San Diego and Penn. Sit one, play two.

Jordan Shepherd to Charlotte. Will sit one and play two for new Charlotte coach Ron Sanchez. Good pickup for them and he gets to play college ball for a mid major in his home state.

(04-07-2018 11:53 AM)tribe_transfer Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 11:19 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  I don't understand how this works...he's not an indentured servant. If he is granted his release and transfers, ODU is not paying his way, and he has to sit out a year. He should be able to play for anyone he wants (that will offer a scholarship).

Pretty spiteful. It would be amusing to see high profile coaches' reactions to a contract stipulating they had to sit out a year between jobs or were blocked from taking jobs at a slew of P5 schools.

My understanding is this is a pretty common contract clause for coaches in P5 conferences. Recently read rumors of an FBS/P5 coach who was waiting to be fired so he could go to the school he wanted without violating his contract. The specific name is slipping my memory, but I think many SEC schools prohibit their coaches from going to another SEC school. That type of noncompete restriction is allowed as long as it’s specific to a region/conference and narrow enough that they can seek employment elsewhere.

(05-07-2018 01:56 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 11:53 AM)tribe_transfer Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 11:19 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  I don't understand how this works...he's not an indentured servant. If he is granted his release and transfers, ODU is not paying his way, and he has to sit out a year. He should be able to play for anyone he wants (that will offer a scholarship).

Pretty spiteful. It would be amusing to see high profile coaches' reactions to a contract stipulating they had to sit out a year between jobs or were blocked from taking jobs at a slew of P5 schools.

My understanding is this is a pretty common contract clause for coaches in P5 conferences. Recently read rumors of an FBS/P5 coach who was waiting to be fired so he could go to the school he wanted without violating his contract. The specific name is slipping my memory, but I think many SEC schools prohibit their coaches from going to another SEC school. That type of noncompete restriction is allowed as long as it’s specific to a region/conference and narrow enough that they can seek employment elsewhere.

Happens all the time in the SEC. Not just HC's but assistants. Across all sports. Nick Saban's coaching tree has supplied lots of coaches to other SEC programs in FB. Same for Urban Meyer and Visor Boy back when they were head coach of UF.

(05-07-2018 02:15 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 01:56 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 11:53 AM)tribe_transfer Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 11:19 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  I don't understand how this works...he's not an indentured servant. If he is granted his release and transfers, ODU is not paying his way, and he has to sit out a year. He should be able to play for anyone he wants (that will offer a scholarship).

Pretty spiteful. It would be amusing to see high profile coaches' reactions to a contract stipulating they had to sit out a year between jobs or were blocked from taking jobs at a slew of P5 schools.

My understanding is this is a pretty common contract clause for coaches in P5 conferences. Recently read rumors of an FBS/P5 coach who was waiting to be fired so he could go to the school he wanted without violating his contract. The specific name is slipping my memory, but I think many SEC schools prohibit their coaches from going to another SEC school. That type of noncompete restriction is allowed as long as it’s specific to a region/conference and narrow enough that they can seek employment elsewhere.

Happens all the time in the SEC. Not just HC's but assistants. Across all sports. Nick Saban's coaching tree has supplied lots of coaches to other SEC programs in FB. Same for Urban Meyer and Visor Boy back when they were head coach of UF.

Not ALL coaches are contractually restricted, but many are.
It’s colloquially called the “SEC clause”.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seccoun...tracts/amp

(05-07-2018 02:27 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 02:15 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 01:56 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 11:53 AM)tribe_transfer Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 11:19 AM)Longhorn Wrote:  I don't understand how this works...he's not an indentured servant. If he is granted his release and transfers, ODU is not paying his way, and he has to sit out a year. He should be able to play for anyone he wants (that will offer a scholarship).

Pretty spiteful. It would be amusing to see high profile coaches' reactions to a contract stipulating they had to sit out a year between jobs or were blocked from taking jobs at a slew of P5 schools.

My understanding is this is a pretty common contract clause for coaches in P5 conferences. Recently read rumors of an FBS/P5 coach who was waiting to be fired so he could go to the school he wanted without violating his contract. The specific name is slipping my memory, but I think many SEC schools prohibit their coaches from going to another SEC school. That type of noncompete restriction is allowed as long as it’s specific to a region/conference and narrow enough that they can seek employment elsewhere.

Happens all the time in the SEC. Not just HC's but assistants. Across all sports. Nick Saban's coaching tree has supplied lots of coaches to other SEC programs in FB. Same for Urban Meyer and Visor Boy back when they were head coach of UF.

Not ALL coaches are contractually restricted, but many are.
It’s colloquially called the “SEC clause”.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seccoun...tracts/amp

That article is from 2 years ago. And, it reads more like a hypothesis than something concrete. The "SEC Clause" must not have held any water. Funny, Pruitt is referenced in the article going to Alabama as he is now in Knoxville. And, Mullen went from Gainesville to Starkville years ago to just now recently being hired back at UF. The SEC has hired from within its family and will continue to do so as evidenced by Pruitt and Mullen...and others under them. Again, lots of assistants slosh around the SEC across multiple sports and I highly doubt that is going to change anytime soon. Heck, even AD's move from SEC to SEC.

(05-07-2018 02:58 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 02:27 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 02:15 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 01:56 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

(04-07-2018 11:53 AM)tribe_transfer Wrote:  Pretty spiteful. It would be amusing to see high profile coaches' reactions to a contract stipulating they had to sit out a year between jobs or were blocked from taking jobs at a slew of P5 schools.

My understanding is this is a pretty common contract clause for coaches in P5 conferences. Recently read rumors of an FBS/P5 coach who was waiting to be fired so he could go to the school he wanted without violating his contract. The specific name is slipping my memory, but I think many SEC schools prohibit their coaches from going to another SEC school. That type of noncompete restriction is allowed as long as it’s specific to a region/conference and narrow enough that they can seek employment elsewhere.

Happens all the time in the SEC. Not just HC's but assistants. Across all sports. Nick Saban's coaching tree has supplied lots of coaches to other SEC programs in FB. Same for Urban Meyer and Visor Boy back when they were head coach of UF.

Not ALL coaches are contractually restricted, but many are.
It’s colloquially called the “SEC clause”.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seccoun...tracts/amp

That article is from 2 years ago. And, it reads more like a hypothesis than something concrete. The "SEC Clause" must not have held any water. Funny, Pruitt is referenced in the article going to Alabama as he is now in Knoxville. And, Mullen went from Gainesville to Starkville years ago to just now recently being hired back at UF. The SEC has hired from within its family and will continue to do so as evidenced by Pruitt and Mullen...and others under them. Again, lots of assistants slosh around the SEC across multiple sports and I highly doubt that is going to change anytime soon. Heck, even AD's move from SEC to SEC.

They were referencing Dan Enos at Arkansas, and “hypothesizing” that these noncompetes will become more common due to all the poaching of coaches such as Pruitt. Read the full article, they didn’t say everyone has that clause today, but some coaches do.

It’s not all coaches or all schools, but it is happening. Don’t have time to go compile a comprehensive list, I have seen other coaches mentioned who also were restricted in taking SEC jobs.

whoa...maybe i’m late to the party but while reading this thread I forgot we recruited Zach Hollywood...did a quick google to see how he’s doing and he committed suicide last year.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/ball...apartment/

Wow, so sad

(05-07-2018 04:28 PM)dukes13 Wrote:  whoa...maybe i’m late to the party but while reading this thread I forgot we recruited Zach Hollywood...did a quick google to see how he’s doing and he committed suicide last year.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/ball...apartment/

Wow, so sad

Thanks for sharing. That's a tough one.

(05-07-2018 10:08 PM)BleedingPurple Wrote:  

(05-07-2018 04:28 PM)dukes13 Wrote:  whoa...maybe i’m late to the party but while reading this thread I forgot we recruited Zach Hollywood...did a quick google to see how he’s doing and he committed suicide last year.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/ball...apartment/

Wow, so sad

Thanks for sharing. That's a tough one.

Yeah saw that story when it first happened. Very sad- the young man lost his Mother to an illness and felt alone after an issue with his girlfriend.