Nice to see that ACC partnership is really working out for the Irish. I can see Swarbrick now:

(11-25-2015 12:01 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Nice to see that ACC partnership is really working out for the Irish. I can see Swarbrick now:

Care to elaborate and provide some detail to your thesis?

(11-25-2015 10:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-24-2015 10:39 PM)Frog in the Kitchen Sink Wrote:  I think the committee is doing the same thing they did to TCU the week before. It isn't only that they looked sluggish against an inferior team. It is that they did that along with significant injuries.

Of course OU also looked sluggish with injuries, but perhaps since it was against a ranked team they were given the benefit of the doubt. Plus mayfield prob isn't out.

The committee Chair did say yesterday that they gave weight to the fact that Oklahoma was dominating TCU before Mayfield went out. What makes me scratch my head about that is ... so what? Did it not occur to the committee that TCU played the whole game without their star QB and best WR? Would Oklahoma have been beating them 30-13 if TCU had those guys?

Or that Oklahoma beat Baylor the week before without Baylor's star QB playing? Or that Notre Dame has been pummeled by injuries all year and yet is still 10-1 against a schedule as good as Oklahoma's?

Seems like the committee only took sympathy on OU for their injury, said "well, IF Mayfield wasn't hurt they win by 30" and disregarded everyone else's. Weird.

Weak explanations are par for the course with this committee. This is the same committee that said they weren't weighing Stanford's loss to Northwestern very heavily because the game (played in Illinois) started at 9:00 am Pacific time and the poor Stanford players had their biological clocks messed up.

(11-25-2015 01:05 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 12:01 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Nice to see that ACC partnership is really working out for the Irish. I can see Swarbrick now:

Care to elaborate and provide some detail to your thesis?

For years, ND played an independent schedule which included some of the best programs in the country. By aligning with the ACC, they replaced teams like Michigan and Michigan State with Wake Forest, Pitt, Virginia and BC.

It just appears to me that those wins don't carry the same weight with the CFP committee and has hurt ND, IMHO.

(11-25-2015 04:53 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 01:05 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 12:01 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Nice to see that ACC partnership is really working out for the Irish. I can see Swarbrick now:

Care to elaborate and provide some detail to your thesis?

For years, ND played an independent schedule which included some of the best programs in the country. By aligning with the ACC, they replaced teams like Michigan and Michigan State with Wake Forest, Pitt, Virginia and BC.

It just appears to me that those wins don't carry the same weight with the CFP committee and has hurt ND, IMHO.

Purdue would have put ND over the top, right?

You left Texas and Clemson off that list of new, non-Big 10 opponents (The idea on ND's part that Texas would be better).

(11-25-2015 04:59 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 04:53 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 01:05 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 12:01 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Nice to see that ACC partnership is really working out for the Irish. I can see Swarbrick now:

Care to elaborate and provide some detail to your thesis?

For years, ND played an independent schedule which included some of the best programs in the country. By aligning with the ACC, they replaced teams like Michigan and Michigan State with Wake Forest, Pitt, Virginia and BC.

It just appears to me that those wins don't carry the same weight with the CFP committee and has hurt ND, IMHO.

Purdue would have put ND over the top, right?

You left Texas and Clemson off that list of new, non-Big 10 opponents (The idea on ND's part that Texas would be better).

Well then, maybe it's not the SOS and it's just that ND isn't as good as I thought they were.

(11-25-2015 05:22 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 04:59 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 04:53 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 01:05 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 12:01 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Nice to see that ACC partnership is really working out for the Irish. I can see Swarbrick now:

Care to elaborate and provide some detail to your thesis?

For years, ND played an independent schedule which included some of the best programs in the country. By aligning with the ACC, they replaced teams like Michigan and Michigan State with Wake Forest, Pitt, Virginia and BC.

It just appears to me that those wins don't carry the same weight with the CFP committee and has hurt ND, IMHO.

Purdue would have put ND over the top, right?

You left Texas and Clemson off that list of new, non-Big 10 opponents (The idea on ND's part that Texas would be better).

Well then, maybe it's not the SOS and it's just that ND isn't as good as I thought they were.

The computers tend to say that ND has actually played a slightly better schedule than Oklahoma.

(11-25-2015 04:53 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 01:05 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(11-25-2015 12:01 PM)mac6115cd Wrote:  Nice to see that ACC partnership is really working out for the Irish. I can see Swarbrick now:

Care to elaborate and provide some detail to your thesis?

For years, ND played an independent schedule which included some of the best programs in the country. By aligning with the ACC, they replaced teams like Michigan and Michigan State with Wake Forest, Pitt, Virginia and BC.

It just appears to me that those wins don't carry the same weight with the CFP committee and has hurt ND, IMHO.

I see what you did, you took teams having a bad year and said that's who they replaced teams having a good year with! Well sir, you're wrong. ND has played Pitt and BC many times before the ACC. Stronger programs like Clemson, FSU, and Louisville are making appearances on ND's schedule now.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/if-notre-da...01114.html

So what happens if OU and ND lose today? Do you take Stanford or Okie St? Do you take OSU of they beat UM?

(11-28-2015 06:31 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  So what happens if OU and ND lose today? Do you take Stanford or Okie St? Do you take OSU of they beat UM?

1. B1G winner is in
2. SEC winner is in
3. Clemson is in with win over NC

4. ND is in with win over Stanford and OU loss
4. OU is in with win over OSU regardless of ND result

3. & 4. Total bedlam if any two of the following (Clemson, ND and OU) lose, which is not unlikely. Opens up to Oklahoma State (#11), Stanford (#9), NC (#14) and even Ohio State (#8) if all win.

(11-28-2015 07:21 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 06:31 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  So what happens if OU and ND lose today? Do you take Stanford or Okie St? Do you take OSU of they beat UM?

1. B1G winner is in
2. SEC winner is in
3. Clemson is in with win over NC

4. ND is in with win over Stanford and OU loss
4. OU is in with win over OSU regardless of ND result

Not so sure. Thanks to their near-miss versus FAU and the big drop to #12, if Florida loses to FSU but beats Alabama, then the SEC will need help to get in. It won't be a sure thing.

#4 is now correct because yesterday was a bad day for Notre Dame. It wasn't really commented on, but three of the teams they beat - Pitt, Navy, and Texas - all lost. Their SOS took a hit, and will again today when UCLA beats USC (my prediction, LOL). So even an impressive win over Stanford won't be enough. They need an OU loss.

I don't see OSU getting in over UNC if the Heels win out. I also don't like Okie St schedule one bit, with a bad a loss at home. If Stanford blows out ND they deserve consideration, but I would look for a three score differential. Okie St needs to blow out OU in my eyes. Otherwise, give me OSU over conf champ Okie St.

(11-28-2015 07:24 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 07:21 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 06:31 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  So what happens if OU and ND lose today? Do you take Stanford or Okie St? Do you take OSU of they beat UM?

1. B1G winner is in
2. SEC winner is in
3. Clemson is in with win over NC

4. ND is in with win over Stanford and OU loss
4. OU is in with win over OSU regardless of ND result

Not so sure. Thanks to their near-miss versus FAU and the big drop to #12, if Florida loses to FSU but beats Alabama, then the SEC will need help to get in. It won't be a sure thing.

#4 is now correct because yesterday was a bad day for Notre Dame. It wasn't really commented on, but three of the teams they beat - Pitt, Navy, and Texas - all lost. Their SOS took a hit, and will again today when UCLA beats USC (my prediction, LOL). So even an impressive win over Stanford won't be enough. They need an OU loss.

Basing my SEC prediction on Alabama winning. If the SEC ever fails to make the CFP, I see an expansion to 8 rather quickly.

(11-28-2015 07:42 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 07:24 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 07:21 AM)mac6115cd Wrote:  

(11-28-2015 06:31 AM)RUScarlets Wrote:  So what happens if OU and ND lose today? Do you take Stanford or Okie St? Do you take OSU of they beat UM?

1. B1G winner is in
2. SEC winner is in
3. Clemson is in with win over NC

4. ND is in with win over Stanford and OU loss
4. OU is in with win over OSU regardless of ND result

Not so sure. Thanks to their near-miss versus FAU and the big drop to #12, if Florida loses to FSU but beats Alabama, then the SEC will need help to get in. It won't be a sure thing.

#4 is now correct because yesterday was a bad day for Notre Dame. It wasn't really commented on, but three of the teams they beat - Pitt, Navy, and Texas - all lost. Their SOS took a hit, and will again today when UCLA beats USC (my prediction, LOL). So even an impressive win over Stanford won't be enough. They need an OU loss.

Basing my SEC prediction on Alabama winning. If the SEC ever fails to make the CFP, I see an expansion to 8 rather quickly.

Well yeah, if Alabama wins out they are obviously in. But there are other possibilities and so our predictions have to account for them.

Truth is, no conference is 100% in at this point. Even the B1G could miss out if Michigan beats Ohio State, Penn State beats MSU, and then Michigan beats Iowa. If Notre Dame beats Stanford, Clemson beats UNC, Alabama wins out, and OU beats OK State, Michigan won't get past any of them and the B1G will be out. That sequence is very unlikely (ND only has about a 35% chance to beat Stanford, for starters), but it is still possible.