(11-20-2015 01:32 AM)sterling1man Wrote:  If NIU has not figured out a way to get more profit from advertising then ticket revenues, it needs to re-evaluate.

sterling1man, not disagreeing with what you're saying, just trying to understand how can NIU "get more profit from advertising than ticket revenues?" Obviously NIU gets "zero cents" directly from the ads shown when our games are shown -- that money is going to ESPN or the cable company which often shows their ads in place of the ones from people who actually purchased time from ESPN. In theory, ESPN makes money from the ad revenue and "buys" the rights to these MAC weeknight games. However, we know the contract is not that lucrative and the money the league gets is then cut up 12 to 15 or who knows how many ways before it's shared. So ultimately NIU is get a sliver.

Some keep stressing the "exposure" being invaluable for NIU; as I've said before, it's a trade-off. Yes, whether there are 400,000 or maybe 800,000 tuned in and that includes potential recruits, it's hard to say that exposure value continues to rise. We've had these MACtion games for what, seven, eight (?) years now, appearing in the Orange Bowl might have been helped establish our national image more than these weeknight games. Either way, is our image growing or simply being maintained, which it would be easy to argue our continued success and bowl appearances are maintaining our reputation.
How many people tuned in to see last night's AAC game, saw the empty stadium and still considered it positive exposure? How many realized UCF was winless and switched the channel? Among those who didn't, how many did so once the game became an ECU blowout?
Okay, on the nights the Huskies don't play, how many of our fans tune in to actually watch OU vs. BSU or the other MACtion games? Based on all our fans who (perhaps understandably) want out of the MAC, it appears very few are interested in helping the league's viewership numbers? Outside of the Sun Belt fans, how many bothered watching UL-Monroe against Texas State last night?
Most everyone seems to agree we have fewer in attendance for weeknight games, so at what point is that mid-week "exposure" still worth more than the revenue from a Saturday game with 3 or 5 or whatever more thousand in the stands, even if they bought a discounted ticket, paid for parking and concessions?
It seems like that should part of the process for NIU deciding to get a maximum profit.

(11-20-2015 09:56 AM)uiniu57 Wrote:  

(11-20-2015 01:32 AM)sterling1man Wrote:  If NIU has not figured out a way to get more profit from advertising then ticket revenues, it needs to re-evaluate.

sterling1man, not disagreeing with what you're saying, just trying to understand how can NIU "get more profit from advertising than ticket revenues?" Obviously NIU gets "zero cents" directly from the ads shown when our games are shown -- that money is going to ESPN or the cable company which often shows their ads in place of the ones from people who actually purchased time from ESPN. In theory, ESPN makes money from the ad revenue and "buys" the rights to these MAC weeknight games. However, we know the contract is not that lucrative and the money the league gets is then cut up 12 to 15 or who knows how many ways before it's shared. So ultimately NIU is get a sliver.

Some keep stressing the "exposure" being invaluable for NIU; as I've said before, it's a trade-off. Yes, whether there are 400,000 or maybe 800,000 tuned in and that includes potential recruits, it's hard to say that exposure value continues to rise. We've had these MACtion games for what, seven, eight (?) years now, appearing in the Orange Bowl might have been helped establish our national image more than these weeknight games. Either way, is our image growing or simply being maintained, which it would be easy to argue our continued success and bowl appearances are maintaining our reputation.
How many people tuned in to see last night's AAC game, saw the empty stadium and still considered it positive exposure? How many realized UCF was winless and switched the channel? Among those who didn't, how many did so once the game became an ECU blowout?
Okay, on the nights the Huskies don't play, how many of our fans tune in to actually watch OU vs. BSU or the other MACtion games? Based on all our fans who (perhaps understandably) want out of the MAC, it appears very few are interested in helping the league's viewership numbers? Outside of the Sun Belt fans, how many bothered watching UL-Monroe against Texas State last night?
Most everyone seems to agree we have fewer in attendance for weeknight games, so at what point is that mid-week "exposure" still worth more than the revenue from a Saturday game with 3 or 5 or whatever more thousand in the stands, even if they bought a discounted ticket, paid for parking and concessions?
It seems like that should part of the process for NIU deciding to get a maximum profit.

12 seasons. First Nov weeknight MACtion game was 2004 vs Toledo.

The way I view the midweek games (I don't mind them and have grown more and more on me for the record) is that without them we would not have a lot of the play-makers that change the team and ultimately produce wins. There is no doubt that we would not have half of the Florida kids, a player like Turner out of Ohio and someone like Jordan Huff from Alabama. I ultimately think that the ESPN games have added to the success of NIU and without it I believe we would have had a couple more losses over the last few seasons.

I'll take the wins any day of the week and getting the better players, than being basically on ESPN 3 lost in the mix of all the Saturday games.

How about one national Tues/Wed weekday game per year on ESPN, and the rest Saturday afternoon matches. One a year might be a novelty, several is just an attendance killer.

(11-20-2015 02:30 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  How about one national Tues/Wed weekday game per year on ESPN, and the rest Saturday afternoon matches. One a year might be a novelty, several is just an attendance killer.

...we had 1 last year and still had the worst attendance in over 10 years.

(11-20-2015 02:44 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(11-20-2015 02:30 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  How about one national Tues/Wed weekday game per year on ESPN, and the rest Saturday afternoon matches. One a year might be a novelty, several is just an attendance killer.

...we had 1 last year and still had the worst attendance in over 10 years.

We had 2 weekday games last year including Presbyterian. And we had bad weather also. And the Presbyterian game was the only home game in September when it's warm.

(11-20-2015 02:44 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  

(11-20-2015 02:30 PM)NIUfilmmaker Wrote:  How about one national Tues/Wed weekday game per year on ESPN, and the rest Saturday afternoon matches. One a year might be a novelty, several is just an attendance killer.

...we had 1 last year and still had the worst attendance in over 10 years.

Yep, the ESPN benefits are just not there

(11-19-2015 04:46 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Was anyone able to set up a canopy in the Movie or Stevenson paved lots?

When we came into town at about 3:30, there was not one car in LA Tan lot & maybe 2 cars in lot K (movie lot). I think if people came after that they possibly did not bother with a canopy for just a couple short hours.

We set up 2 canopies in the grassy area of Convo lot. Both were staked, legs weighted, and tied down. We also got 2 walls up & they made a huge difference when the wind was blocked - it was almost pleasant. If the wind had been as strong as it was for 3rd & 4th quarter I would not have put our canopy up for fear it would break.

(11-20-2015 05:42 PM)HuskieFootball Addict Wrote:  

(11-19-2015 04:46 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  Was anyone able to set up a canopy in the Movie or Stevenson paved lots?

When we came into town at about 3:30, there was not one car in LA Tan lot & maybe 2 cars in lot K (movie lot). I think if people came after that they possibly did not bother with a canopy for just a couple short hours.

We set up 2 canopies in the grassy area of Convo lot. Both were staked, legs weighted, and tied down. We also got 2 walls up & they made a huge difference when the wind was blocked - it was almost pleasant. If the wind had been as strong as it was for 3rd & 4th quarter I would not have put our canopy up for fear it would break.

I passed by the LA tan lot at 4:45ish and it still looked empty.

(11-19-2015 01:09 AM)prairiedawg Wrote:  Well ..I was there and can't talk because I cheered so much. The crowd was great andreally into it....Fleck got hecked like a sunnabidge...what about you whinerz? How was it watching the game from home?

Not sure why you thought I started this thread from Huskie Stadium and then went home to watch the game... The negative feedback was unnecessary. I apologize for letting people know that there wasn't much activity around HS 40 minutes before kickoff. I'll avoid starting threads that have truth to them in the future. Congrats on being at the game though. You were a big help.

I am sure it would be a sellout this Saturday with a foot of snow. I will take ESPN coverage on a week night

Food for thought:

Cincy, Temple and Memphis will all shatter their previous record season attendance averages this year.

With the upcoming Navy sell out, Houston's average attendance will be the highest since 1979.

These four schools plus East Carolina each drew more fans this year than anyone else in the G5 including Boise.

(11-21-2015 11:37 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Food for thought:

Cincy, Temple and Memphis will all shatter their previous record season attendance averages this year.

With the upcoming Navy sell out, Houston's average attendance will be the highest since 1979.

These four schools plus East Carolina each drew more fans this year than anyone else in the G5 including Boise.

Yes, but haven't you been reading MD's posts? It is short lived because their conference will be extinct in less than 5 years.

(11-21-2015 10:06 AM)mgm86huskiefn Wrote:  I am sure it would be a sellout this Saturday with a foot of snow. I will take ESPN coverage on a week night

maybe not, but I know that me and my wife would have been there today and we were not on Wednesday.

(11-21-2015 02:34 PM)Cowboy95 Wrote:  

(11-21-2015 11:37 AM)DogPoundNorth Wrote:  Food for thought:

Cincy, Temple and Memphis will all shatter their previous record season attendance averages this year.

With the upcoming Navy sell out, Houston's average attendance will be the highest since 1979.

These four schools plus East Carolina each drew more fans this year than anyone else in the G5 including Boise.

Yes, but haven't you been reading MD's posts? It is short lived because their conference will be extinct in less than 5 years.

And if NIU were to join it our student athletes would severely suffer from the traveling. But mind you, USF or Uconn are unaffected traveling across the country.

(11-21-2015 10:06 AM)mgm86huskiefn Wrote:  I am sure it would be a sellout this Saturday with a foot of snow. I will take ESPN coverage on a week night

I mean, come on....they can't predict the weather. That's a lucky coincidence.

But that is my point about cold November Wed nights can't predict the weather is Saturday or Wednesday games. I understand both sides on week night games. I admit I go to 1

I understand but thats my point. Can't predict weather for week night or Saturday games. I admit I go to 1 or 2 Saturday nice weather games and still enjoy watching on ESPN on week nights