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Dartmouth students lead Black Lives Matter protest

What will have to happen to bring an end to all of this nonsense? And yes, that means from both perspectives.
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ahhhhhh tenure.......................
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Nobody gives a damn about Dartmouth.
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(11-15-2015 08:58 PM)Claw Wrote:  Nobody gives a damn about Dartmouth.

no doubt......why would ya?

those silly people that do silly things....

what's funny is they think it matters.....
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(11-15-2015 08:11 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  Dartmouth students lead Black Lives Matter protest

What will have to happen to bring an end to all of this nonsense? And yes, that means from both perspectives.

If this was a conservative protest, they would be expelled.

Here's betting they do nothing except maybe compliment them.
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(11-15-2015 08:11 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  Dartmouth students lead Black Lives Matter protest

What will have to happen to bring an end to all of this nonsense? And yes, that means from both perspectives.

Nothing brings things to an end like ignoring them.

But if you want to make a difference, two things will have to happen: 1. The people of the movement will have to acknowledge that some of the "victims" here aren't victims. 2. Law Enforcement has to recognize that it has been in the wrong in some of these situations.

These are the two things that the sides aren't willing to do though.
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There are two other things that can be done, now.

First, the big donors should announce that their largesse towards their alma maters will end. Cut off the money and the administration will take steps to quell the protests and re-establish the primacy of free speech.

Second, admit that diversity has not succeeded in achieving its (questionable) goal of increasing dialogue and understanding. On the contrary, the diversity has had the opposite effect of stiffing discourse lest it make someone "uncomfortable." Universities should abandon diversity enrollments, the progressive euphemism for racial preferences, and return to merit admissions.
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The diversity that we need is intellectual diversity. We will never get that in the current system.
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Throw those conservative college administrators out... errr... wait, there are no conservatives at Dartmouth. Only far left and slightly less far left.
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(11-16-2015 08:33 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  There are two other things that can be done, now.

First, the big donors should announce that their largesse towards their alma maters will end. Cut off the money and the administration will take steps to quell the protests and re-establish the primacy of free speech.

Second, admit that diversity has not succeeded in achieving its (questionable) goal of increasing dialogue and understanding. On the contrary, the diversity has had the opposite effect of stiffing discourse lest it make someone "uncomfortable." Universities should abandon diversity enrollments, the progressive euphemism for racial preferences, and return to merit admissions.

Good blog by Bill Torpy in the Atlanta Journal Constitution Sunday. Torpy is pretty liberal. But he was commenting on how spoiled these various protestors were. Quoted someone who's seminar he had been to as blaming it on helicopter parents, keeping kids from facing adversity and difficult situations. And that it had taken a real turn for the worst in the last couple of decades.

Would link, but its couldn't find it online yet. Sometimes these pieces don't show up for a few days.
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(11-16-2015 08:43 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Throw those conservative college administrators out... errr... wait, there are no conservatives at Dartmouth. Only far left and slightly less far left.

Let them toil in their own created misery.
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DERRRRRRRRRRRRRR BLACK LIVES MATTER HURRRRRRRRRRRRR DUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
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(11-16-2015 08:33 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  There are two other things that can be done, now.

First, the big donors should announce that their largesse towards their alma maters will end. Cut off the money and the administration will take steps to quell the protests and re-establish the primacy of free speech.

Second, admit that diversity has not succeeded in achieving its (questionable) goal of increasing dialogue and understanding. On the contrary, the diversity has had the opposite effect of stiffing discourse lest it make someone "uncomfortable." Universities should abandon diversity enrollments, the progressive euphemism for racial preferences, and return to merit admissions.

The first point is good for people who are simply annoyed from hundreds of miles away. If there is a real persisting problem on campus that caused the unrest, it's basically telling the administration to ignore it, forever and ever.
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Such a great cause. Surprised everyone isn't supporting it more.
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(11-16-2015 10:12 AM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 08:33 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  There are two other things that can be done, now.

First, the big donors should announce that their largesse towards their alma maters will end. Cut off the money and the administration will take steps to quell the protests and re-establish the primacy of free speech.

Second, admit that diversity has not succeeded in achieving its (questionable) goal of increasing dialogue and understanding. On the contrary, the diversity has had the opposite effect of stiffing discourse lest it make someone "uncomfortable." Universities should abandon diversity enrollments, the progressive euphemism for racial preferences, and return to merit admissions.

The first point is good for people who are simply annoyed from hundreds of miles away. If there is a real persisting problem on campus that caused the unrest, it's basically telling the administration to ignore it, forever and ever.

That may be true but I haven't heard of what the "real persisting problem" is. The previous President of Mizzou got in trouble for not coming out strongly on Ferguson. Is that qualify as a mortal sin to the BLM crowd?

And there have been more faked racial incidents reported in the last few years than real ones.

If not protesting with BLM is an example of racial bias, then I think these people are just searching for reasons to be offended.
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Next thing that might happen is for black students to recruit a couple of white people, and get the whites
to stage a faux attack on some black students while screaming racial insults. Then they will release the video.
There is no wholesale racism on these liberal campuses, except in reverse.
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(11-16-2015 09:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 08:33 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  There are two other things that can be done, now.

First, the big donors should announce that their largesse towards their alma maters will end. Cut off the money and the administration will take steps to quell the protests and re-establish the primacy of free speech.

Second, admit that diversity has not succeeded in achieving its (questionable) goal of increasing dialogue and understanding. On the contrary, the diversity has had the opposite effect of stiffing discourse lest it make someone "uncomfortable." Universities should abandon diversity enrollments, the progressive euphemism for racial preferences, and return to merit admissions.

Good blog by Bill Torpy in the Atlanta Journal Constitution Sunday. Torpy is pretty liberal. But he was commenting on how spoiled these various protestors were. Quoted someone who's seminar he had been to as blaming it on helicopter parents, keeping kids from facing adversity and difficult situations. And that it had taken a real turn for the worst in the last couple of decades.

Would link, but its couldn't find it online yet. Sometimes these pieces don't show up for a few days.

http://www.myajc.com/news/news/local/bub...ace/npNsn/

(Talking about getting his kids to/from school)
....

We made an easy choice: “Fellows, ever hear of MARTA?” The boys could walk a few blocks to the courthouse and grab the 19 bus. The ride home was a straight shot and, we figured, would give them some adventure, independence and responsibility.

When some other parents heard of our scheme, you’d have thought we were teaching them knife fighting.

“Is that safe?” we were asked.




“Well, I like their chances,” I’d respond.

Thankfully, no one reported us to DFACS and they are still alive and are in high school and college.

I thought about this a few weeks ago visiting the University of Chicago, where one of our young MARTA riders is a freshman. At a presentation for parents, the topic of student resilience came up and, it turns out, they’re increasingly not.




The subject of how kids who grew up bubble-wrapped now deal with adversity is a cause célèbre at the University of Missouri and Yale. At those fine institutions, angry, finger-pointing students complain about a lack of “safe spaces” on campus — locations where they can remain snug, secure and tucked away from the anxiety, aggravation and worry this world might provide.

“I find it interesting that the word of choice is ‘safe,’ because safe is the brass ring of American society,” said Lenore Skenazy, a former newspaper columnist who caused a stir when she wrote about letting her 9-year-old take the subway home alone in New York City.

She now runs Free Range Kids, a website devoted to the horrors wrought by a generation of helicopter parenting.

“It doesn’t surprise me they feel nothing is safe by the time they get to college because they’ve been told for their first 18 years they are constantly in danger,” Skenazy said. “A lot of it comes from the idea of never letting our kids have unsupervised time. Any time there is something upsetting, there’s an authority figure you can turn to and they will settle it or figure it out for you.

“They grew up in a maelstrom of worry. We live in one of the safest times in human history. (This is a) society that almost hallucinates danger.”

Hello, safe space. I need a fluffy pillow.

Safety for our children is both physical (we’re forever terrified of the ever-lurking Stranger Danger) and psychological (we worry exposure to hurtful words or actions may damage their carefully nurtured self-esteem.) That’s why my kids got shelves of trophies, even though their teams rarely, if ever, won championships.

The subject, while not new, has become a constant buzz. In September, Atlantic Magazine’s cover story was “The Coddling of the American Mind.”

“In the name of emotional well-being, college students are increasingly demanding protection from words and ideas they don’t like,” the authors wrote. “Here’s why that’s disastrous for education—and mental health.”

Last month, I attended parents’ weekend at the University of Chicago, and the head of the school’s student health and counseling program spoke about a program he designed to teach students about building resilience.

Alex Lickerman, a physician who wrote “The Undefeated Mind: On the Science of Constructing an Indestructible Self,” said the art of bouncing back from adversity is not innate. It’s a learned trait. One must learn to set expectations, endure disappointment, take personal responsibility and even manage pain, physical or psychological.

After his presentation, he asked for questions. I noted he had observed and helped students at this top-flight university for 20 years. So what kind of trend did he see with them?

Lickerman leaned forward, smiled broadly and said he was glad I asked. The question unleashed a fountain within him. Students, he said, increasingly find it hard to recover from middling troubles and even minor irritations.

“Parents have not allowed their children to fail and don’t have high expectations for their kids on handling failure,” he said.

I called him this week to expand on his thesis.

“In the past 10 to 20 years everyone has become fragile,” he said. “We have to be careful about what we say. This generation is so easily offended.”

Why is this? Parents, he responded. They’ve toiled mightily to prevent their darlings from experiencing the bitter taste of failure or unpleasantness. Part of it is the Mother Hen Syndrome. I mean, who likes to see their kid bloody or walking back to the dugout dejectedly after striking out? Part of it is parents managing their own worry concerning their kids, so they pave the way to make them succeed and assuage any latent guilt.

Parents increasingly inject themselves into all facets of their kids’ lives, even when the offspring is time zones away. Lickerman sees students devastated after earning their first “C.” Time was, such an event was a wake-up call, a message telling a student to skip the bars and find the library. Today, it brings frantic parental calls or school visits to make things right.

(A friend who’s an administrator at a local university calls such parents “stealth fighter parents. They don’t hover like helicopters, they swoop in to school to take care of them.”)

“I think kids need to know how to get up when they’re knocked down,” said Lickerman. “But the only way you can learn that is to get knocked down. If they don’t succeed, they can go forward and figure out what happened.”

Lickerman’s advice is fairly simple: Allow your kids to struggle as far as you think they can — and then perhaps a little more — and try to let them figure it out for themselves. They just might surprise you.
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It's called trying to pick a fight. Ironically, white people just don't care.
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(11-15-2015 08:11 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote:  Dartmouth students lead Black Lives Matter protest

What will have to happen to bring an end to all of this nonsense? And yes, that means from both perspectives.

Genetic engineering will eventually solve it. Nothing else will.
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(11-16-2015 10:01 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 09:21 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(11-16-2015 08:33 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  There are two other things that can be done, now.

First, the big donors should announce that their largesse towards their alma maters will end. Cut off the money and the administration will take steps to quell the protests and re-establish the primacy of free speech.

Second, admit that diversity has not succeeded in achieving its (questionable) goal of increasing dialogue and understanding. On the contrary, the diversity has had the opposite effect of stiffing discourse lest it make someone "uncomfortable." Universities should abandon diversity enrollments, the progressive euphemism for racial preferences, and return to merit admissions.

Good blog by Bill Torpy in the Atlanta Journal Constitution Sunday. Torpy is pretty liberal. But he was commenting on how spoiled these various protestors were. Quoted someone who's seminar he had been to as blaming it on helicopter parents, keeping kids from facing adversity and difficult situations. And that it had taken a real turn for the worst in the last couple of decades.

Would link, but its couldn't find it online yet. Sometimes these pieces don't show up for a few days.

http://www.myajc.com/news/news/local/bub...ace/npNsn/

(Talking about getting his kids to/from school)
....

We made an easy choice: “Fellows, ever hear of MARTA?” The boys could walk a few blocks to the courthouse and grab the 19 bus. The ride home was a straight shot and, we figured, would give them some adventure, independence and responsibility.

When some other parents heard of our scheme, you’d have thought we were teaching them knife fighting.

“Is that safe?” we were asked.




“Well, I like their chances,” I’d respond.

Thankfully, no one reported us to DFACS and they are still alive and are in high school and college.

I thought about this a few weeks ago visiting the University of Chicago, where one of our young MARTA riders is a freshman. At a presentation for parents, the topic of student resilience came up and, it turns out, they’re increasingly not.




The subject of how kids who grew up bubble-wrapped now deal with adversity is a cause célèbre at the University of Missouri and Yale. At those fine institutions, angry, finger-pointing students complain about a lack of “safe spaces” on campus — locations where they can remain snug, secure and tucked away from the anxiety, aggravation and worry this world might provide.

“I find it interesting that the word of choice is ‘safe,’ because safe is the brass ring of American society,” said Lenore Skenazy, a former newspaper columnist who caused a stir when she wrote about letting her 9-year-old take the subway home alone in New York City.

She now runs Free Range Kids, a website devoted to the horrors wrought by a generation of helicopter parenting.

“It doesn’t surprise me they feel nothing is safe by the time they get to college because they’ve been told for their first 18 years they are constantly in danger,” Skenazy said. “A lot of it comes from the idea of never letting our kids have unsupervised time. Any time there is something upsetting, there’s an authority figure you can turn to and they will settle it or figure it out for you.

“They grew up in a maelstrom of worry. We live in one of the safest times in human history. (This is a) society that almost hallucinates danger.”

Hello, safe space. I need a fluffy pillow.

Safety for our children is both physical (we’re forever terrified of the ever-lurking Stranger Danger) and psychological (we worry exposure to hurtful words or actions may damage their carefully nurtured self-esteem.) That’s why my kids got shelves of trophies, even though their teams rarely, if ever, won championships.

The subject, while not new, has become a constant buzz. In September, Atlantic Magazine’s cover story was “The Coddling of the American Mind.”

“In the name of emotional well-being, college students are increasingly demanding protection from words and ideas they don’t like,” the authors wrote. “Here’s why that’s disastrous for education—and mental health.”

Last month, I attended parents’ weekend at the University of Chicago, and the head of the school’s student health and counseling program spoke about a program he designed to teach students about building resilience.

Alex Lickerman, a physician who wrote “The Undefeated Mind: On the Science of Constructing an Indestructible Self,” said the art of bouncing back from adversity is not innate. It’s a learned trait. One must learn to set expectations, endure disappointment, take personal responsibility and even manage pain, physical or psychological.

After his presentation, he asked for questions. I noted he had observed and helped students at this top-flight university for 20 years. So what kind of trend did he see with them?

Lickerman leaned forward, smiled broadly and said he was glad I asked. The question unleashed a fountain within him. Students, he said, increasingly find it hard to recover from middling troubles and even minor irritations.

“Parents have not allowed their children to fail and don’t have high expectations for their kids on handling failure,” he said.

I called him this week to expand on his thesis.

“In the past 10 to 20 years everyone has become fragile,” he said. “We have to be careful about what we say. This generation is so easily offended.”

Why is this? Parents, he responded. They’ve toiled mightily to prevent their darlings from experiencing the bitter taste of failure or unpleasantness. Part of it is the Mother Hen Syndrome. I mean, who likes to see their kid bloody or walking back to the dugout dejectedly after striking out? Part of it is parents managing their own worry concerning their kids, so they pave the way to make them succeed and assuage any latent guilt.

Parents increasingly inject themselves into all facets of their kids’ lives, even when the offspring is time zones away. Lickerman sees students devastated after earning their first “C.” Time was, such an event was a wake-up call, a message telling a student to skip the bars and find the library. Today, it brings frantic parental calls or school visits to make things right.

(A friend who’s an administrator at a local university calls such parents “stealth fighter parents. They don’t hover like helicopters, they swoop in to school to take care of them.”)

“I think kids need to know how to get up when they’re knocked down,” said Lickerman. “But the only way you can learn that is to get knocked down. If they don’t succeed, they can go forward and figure out what happened.”

Lickerman’s advice is fairly simple: Allow your kids to struggle as far as you think they can — and then perhaps a little more — and try to let them figure it out for themselves. They just might surprise you.

I like that.
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