(10-26-2015 07:21 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  In reference to the one who wrote ...."I wish there were thousands that actually cared about EMU"..

Well there are 50000 Alumni who care about EMU and we could sell out the stadium if we could win consistently. After enduring so many losing seasons, many Alumni are embarrassed to be affiliated with EMU football. During our homecoming, I had two Alumni friends fly in from Boston only to attend the UofM game. I went to the EMU game....sorry that I did after what I saw. However, my two EMU Alumni friends make big money (200k salary) and decided to take their entertainment money, and party to UofM. We cal all say we don't need them blah, blah, blah. The fact is we need all of our alumni.....they will all come back if we have 3-4 winning seasons. Heck, if we could win back to back MAC Championships we could get 30k in attendance. Need to win two more games this year and 6 games next year period.

Maybe you can ask the 50,000 if they can't attend games they can contribute writing a check is fairly painless. If they gave up one U of M game a year along with parking that would be $100 and have them send it to the athletic department.

(10-27-2015 02:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-26-2015 07:21 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  In reference to the one who wrote ...."I wish there were thousands that actually cared about EMU"..

Well there are 50000 Alumni who care about EMU and we could sell out the stadium if we could win consistently. After enduring so many losing seasons, many Alumni are embarrassed to be affiliated with EMU football. During our homecoming, I had two Alumni friends fly in from Boston only to attend the UofM game. I went to the EMU game....sorry that I did after what I saw. However, my two EMU Alumni friends make big money (200k salary) and decided to take their entertainment money, and party to UofM. We cal all say we don't need them blah, blah, blah. The fact is we need all of our alumni.....they will all come back if we have 3-4 winning seasons. Heck, if we could win back to back MAC Championships we could get 30k in attendance. Need to win two more games this year and 6 games next year period.

Maybe you can ask the 50,000 if they can't attend games they can contribute writing a check is fairly painless. If they gave up one U of M game a year along with parking that would be $100 and have them send it to the athletic department.

Like I said, right, wrong, or indifferent, they do not affiliate themselves with EMU sports. We are school who has hired inept coaches and the continued losing has driven EMU away.

(10-27-2015 05:10 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 02:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-26-2015 07:21 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  In reference to the one who wrote ...."I wish there were thousands that actually cared about EMU"..

Well there are 50000 Alumni who care about EMU and we could sell out the stadium if we could win consistently. After enduring so many losing seasons, many Alumni are embarrassed to be affiliated with EMU football. During our homecoming, I had two Alumni friends fly in from Boston only to attend the UofM game. I went to the EMU game....sorry that I did after what I saw. However, my two EMU Alumni friends make big money (200k salary) and decided to take their entertainment money, and party to UofM. We cal all say we don't need them blah, blah, blah. The fact is we need all of our alumni.....they will all come back if we have 3-4 winning seasons. Heck, if we could win back to back MAC Championships we could get 30k in attendance. Need to win two more games this year and 6 games next year period.

Maybe you can ask the 50,000 if they can't attend games they can contribute writing a check is fairly painless. If they gave up one U of M game a year along with parking that would be $100 and have them send it to the athletic department.

Like I said, right, wrong, or indifferent, they do not affiliate themselves with EMU sports. We are school who has hired inept coaches and the continued losing has driven EMU away.

Only two programs hire bad coaches. I like CC i think he is the best coach we can afford and i think he is great find for football and EMU. Mens basketball is another story. Women's basketball Tony is a really good coach will our team competitive for the for see able future, only one coach has been here longer than me peter lin he's a great coach

EMU has plenty of grads who are Wal-Mart wolverweenies. They ride the bandwagon, follow the crowd and long to be something they are not.

We are different. We have a commitment and sense of loyalty that they cannot comprehend.

(10-27-2015 12:00 PM)ljmhurons Wrote:  EMU has plenty of grads who are Wal-Mart wolverweenies. They ride the bandwagon, follow the crowd and long to be something they are not.

We are different. We have a commitment and sense of loyalty that they cannot comprehend.

Many students come here to get there gpa high enough to go to so called "real " college university.

(10-27-2015 07:09 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 05:10 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 02:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-26-2015 07:21 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  In reference to the one who wrote ...."I wish there were thousands that actually cared about EMU"..

Well there are 50000 Alumni who care about EMU and we could sell out the stadium if we could win consistently. After enduring so many losing seasons, many Alumni are embarrassed to be affiliated with EMU football. During our homecoming, I had two Alumni friends fly in from Boston only to attend the UofM game. I went to the EMU game....sorry that I did after what I saw. However, my two EMU Alumni friends make big money (200k salary) and decided to take their entertainment money, and party to UofM. We cal all say we don't need them blah, blah, blah. The fact is we need all of our alumni.....they will all come back if we have 3-4 winning seasons. Heck, if we could win back to back MAC Championships we could get 30k in attendance. Need to win two more games this year and 6 games next year period.

Maybe you can ask the 50,000 if they can't attend games they can contribute writing a check is fairly painless. If they gave up one U of M game a year along with parking that would be $100 and have them send it to the athletic department.

Like I said, right, wrong, or indifferent, they do not affiliate themselves with EMU sports. We are school who has hired inept coaches and the continued losing has driven EMU away.

Only two programs hire bad coaches. I like CC i think he is the best coach we can afford and i think he is great find for football and EMU. Mens basketball is another story. Women's basketball Tony is a really good coach will our team competitive for the for see able future, only one coach has been here longer than me peter lin he's a great coach

Super, I am with you regarding men's basketball. That program certainly has the foundation to be a leading MAC team year after year. Our back to back 20win seasons are nice but very misleading since we are only a .500 MAC team, not reached the conference finals, and have gotten blown out by top teams. We have had the occasional victory ie over Michigan last year but nothing to show that Murphy can lead us to be championship contenders in the MAC.

(10-27-2015 12:30 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 07:09 AM)emussuperfan Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 05:10 AM)Luckeyone Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 02:38 AM)emu79 Wrote:  

(10-26-2015 07:21 PM)Luckeyone Wrote:  In reference to the one who wrote ...."I wish there were thousands that actually cared about EMU"..

Well there are 50000 Alumni who care about EMU and we could sell out the stadium if we could win consistently. After enduring so many losing seasons, many Alumni are embarrassed to be affiliated with EMU football. During our homecoming, I had two Alumni friends fly in from Boston only to attend the UofM game. I went to the EMU game....sorry that I did after what I saw. However, my two EMU Alumni friends make big money (200k salary) and decided to take their entertainment money, and party to UofM. We cal all say we don't need them blah, blah, blah. The fact is we need all of our alumni.....they will all come back if we have 3-4 winning seasons. Heck, if we could win back to back MAC Championships we could get 30k in attendance. Need to win two more games this year and 6 games next year period.

Maybe you can ask the 50,000 if they can't attend games they can contribute writing a check is fairly painless. If they gave up one U of M game a year along with parking that would be $100 and have them send it to the athletic department.

Like I said, right, wrong, or indifferent, they do not affiliate themselves with EMU sports. We are school who has hired inept coaches and the continued losing has driven EMU away.

Only two programs hire bad coaches. I like CC i think he is the best coach we can afford and i think he is great find for football and EMU. Mens basketball is another story. Women's basketball Tony is a really good coach will our team competitive for the for see able future, only one coach has been here longer than me peter lin he's a great coach

Super, I am with you regarding men's basketball. That program certainly has the foundation to be a leading MAC team year after year. Our back to back 20win seasons are nice but very misleading since we are only a .500 MAC team, not reached the conference finals, and have gotten blown out by top teams. We have had the occasional victory ie over Michigan last year but nothing to show that Murphy can lead us to be championship contenders in the MAC.

Some of this is blowout win at home vs. blown out on the road.

That has been the pattern I believe the last two years vs. Toledo.

Do remember the good, guys... :)

and also our friends at wmu

(10-25-2015 08:24 PM)candela Wrote:  It does sound like an oxymoron so I will start with the obvious reasons for caution and speak on reasons to be optimistic.

It will take at least 2 more recruiting classes like the talent of the 2015 class to really turn things around. By this I mean, being able to compete Every game, finish a game, and win convincingly. We already know all the other reasons for caution and I don't want to beat a dead horse as we all know those things now.

Also, while EMU is not like most programs, other programs with similar rebuilding periods give coaches at a minimum 5 years to allow for full recruiting cycle (4years and extra year for redshirt freshmen). I am not advocating a term but just stating.

Reason for optimism.
I am in no way pointing the finger negatively but just sharing. We already have 6 freshmen contributing on special teams and of course the offensive/defensive player. In seeing the freshmen practice going up against the 1s, what stands out is the fact that although they have raw talent, they give the 1s fits. some will say "that is not saying much in regards to what shows on field on game days". But I am saying that they are not only giving the 1s fits, but there is a difference. The youngsters have swagger and are very confident in there ability and it shows.
Ex. take LBs position, as soon as the offensive hole opens, the gap is filled with hard nose hitting Lb. WRs, the route running and being able to separate is extremely fluid. DB's we have some "ball hawks" that can cover and tackle in space. The downside of these kids with raw talent I just discussed is the learning of the "system" But the great part about these kids is that they are "naturals" at their prospective positions and will thrive within any system they are placed into.

Of course we know not every single player will "stick" so to speak and that is a given or reason to be cautious but I must say with the continued recruiting of kids like we have (Creightons' Staff has done great job there), we will be fine. Last, but not least, I played sports from age of 4 to the age of 21, competed at the D1 level and played alongside many that went on to the NFL. Additionally, I coached for youth football ages 10-13 for 10 years and impacted numerous kids lives that went on to compete at the FBS and FCS level. Lastly, I had older son to compete at the college level and my youngest currently. I said all that to say that I feel like I have an eye for talent when I make the afforementioned statement.

The optimism you are expressing is based on things that few can see. All we have from you are good practice reports about some of the underclassmen. With all respect, it's going to take much more than that to convince me that Creighton will turn this around. Frankly, the in game evidence that we all see first hand has not been encouraging at all, except for the very occasional effectiveness of the offense.

(10-27-2015 05:59 PM)Nehru Jacket Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:24 PM)candela Wrote:  It does sound like an oxymoron so I will start with the obvious reasons for caution and speak on reasons to be optimistic.

It will take at least 2 more recruiting classes like the talent of the 2015 class to really turn things around. By this I mean, being able to compete Every game, finish a game, and win convincingly. We already know all the other reasons for caution and I don't want to beat a dead horse as we all know those things now.

Also, while EMU is not like most programs, other programs with similar rebuilding periods give coaches at a minimum 5 years to allow for full recruiting cycle (4years and extra year for redshirt freshmen). I am not advocating a term but just stating.

Reason for optimism.
I am in no way pointing the finger negatively but just sharing. We already have 6 freshmen contributing on special teams and of course the offensive/defensive player. In seeing the freshmen practice going up against the 1s, what stands out is the fact that although they have raw talent, they give the 1s fits. some will say "that is not saying much in regards to what shows on field on game days". But I am saying that they are not only giving the 1s fits, but there is a difference. The youngsters have swagger and are very confident in there ability and it shows.
Ex. take LBs position, as soon as the offensive hole opens, the gap is filled with hard nose hitting Lb. WRs, the route running and being able to separate is extremely fluid. DB's we have some "ball hawks" that can cover and tackle in space. The downside of these kids with raw talent I just discussed is the learning of the "system" But the great part about these kids is that they are "naturals" at their prospective positions and will thrive within any system they are placed into.

Of course we know not every single player will "stick" so to speak and that is a given or reason to be cautious but I must say with the continued recruiting of kids like we have (Creightons' Staff has done great job there), we will be fine. Last, but not least, I played sports from age of 4 to the age of 21, competed at the D1 level and played alongside many that went on to the NFL. Additionally, I coached for youth football ages 10-13 for 10 years and impacted numerous kids lives that went on to compete at the FBS and FCS level. Lastly, I had older son to compete at the college level and my youngest currently. I said all that to say that I feel like I have an eye for talent when I make the afforementioned statement.

The optimism you are expressing is based on things that few can see. All we have from you are good practice reports about some of the underclassmen. With all respect, it's going to take much more than that to convince me that Creighton will turn this around. Frankly, the in game evidence that we all see first hand has not been encouraging at all, except for the very occasional effectiveness of the offense.

^ This!!!!!

Most with any eye for football can see clearly.

Maybe analysis just isn't your forte. If Bob agrees with you, well, enough said.

Just keep that positive attitude, be patient, and show up. It's happening.

(10-27-2015 05:59 PM)Nehru Jacket Wrote:  

(10-25-2015 08:24 PM)candela Wrote:  It does sound like an oxymoron so I will start with the obvious reasons for caution and speak on reasons to be optimistic.

It will take at least 2 more recruiting classes like the talent of the 2015 class to really turn things around. By this I mean, being able to compete Every game, finish a game, and win convincingly. We already know all the other reasons for caution and I don't want to beat a dead horse as we all know those things now.

Also, while EMU is not like most programs, other programs with similar rebuilding periods give coaches at a minimum 5 years to allow for full recruiting cycle (4years and extra year for redshirt freshmen). I am not advocating a term but just stating.

Reason for optimism.
I am in no way pointing the finger negatively but just sharing. We already have 6 freshmen contributing on special teams and of course the offensive/defensive player. In seeing the freshmen practice going up against the 1s, what stands out is the fact that although they have raw talent, they give the 1s fits. some will say "that is not saying much in regards to what shows on field on game days". But I am saying that they are not only giving the 1s fits, but there is a difference. The youngsters have swagger and are very confident in there ability and it shows.
Ex. take LBs position, as soon as the offensive hole opens, the gap is filled with hard nose hitting Lb. WRs, the route running and being able to separate is extremely fluid. DB's we have some "ball hawks" that can cover and tackle in space. The downside of these kids with raw talent I just discussed is the learning of the "system" But the great part about these kids is that they are "naturals" at their prospective positions and will thrive within any system they are placed into.

Of course we know not every single player will "stick" so to speak and that is a given or reason to be cautious but I must say with the continued recruiting of kids like we have (Creightons' Staff has done great job there), we will be fine. Last, but not least, I played sports from age of 4 to the age of 21, competed at the D1 level and played alongside many that went on to the NFL. Additionally, I coached for youth football ages 10-13 for 10 years and impacted numerous kids lives that went on to compete at the FBS and FCS level. Lastly, I had older son to compete at the college level and my youngest currently. I said all that to say that I feel like I have an eye for talent when I make the afforementioned statement.

The optimism you are expressing is based on things that few can see. All we have from you are good practice reports about some of the underclassmen. With all respect, it's going to take much more than that to convince me that Creighton will turn this around. Frankly, the in game evidence that we all see first hand has not been encouraging at all, except for the very occasional effectiveness of the offense.

Nehru Jacket if you paid attention to my post I noted that my reason for not going into the obvious that has been spelled out repeatedly and those aspects are reason for concern and caution. I wanted to use this post to focus on the young specifically 2015 recruiting class and shed light on what you say few can see. Especially since many care to know the progress of the 1st full class. Last but not least, you say all I have reported are "good" reports but I have written about aspects that need immediate attention in past post and since I can be long winded, I wanted to write on side not covered much.

(10-27-2015 06:48 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Most with any eye for football can see clearly.

Maybe analysis just isn't your forte. If Bob agrees with you, well, enough said.

Just keep that positive attitude, be patient, and show up. It's happening.

I see very clearly. What I see is that we are getting pantsed every week.

(10-27-2015 08:09 PM)Nehru Jacket Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 06:48 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Most with any eye for football can see clearly.

Maybe analysis just isn't your forte. If Bob agrees with you, well, enough said.

Just keep that positive attitude, be patient, and show up. It's happening.

I see very clearly. What I see is that we are getting pantsed every week.

Just keep that positive attitude, be patient, and show up.

We gonna see you on Thursday?

(10-27-2015 08:59 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 08:09 PM)Nehru Jacket Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 06:48 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Most with any eye for football can see clearly.

Maybe analysis just isn't your forte. If Bob agrees with you, well, enough said.

Just keep that positive attitude, be patient, and show up. It's happening.

I see very clearly. What I see is that we are getting pantsed every week.

Just keep that positive attitude, be patient, and show up.

We gonna see you on Thursday?

I'll be the one in the green Nehru jacket.

(10-27-2015 10:29 PM)Nehru Jacket Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 08:59 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 08:09 PM)Nehru Jacket Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 06:48 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Most with any eye for football can see clearly.

Maybe analysis just isn't your forte. If Bob agrees with you, well, enough said.

Just keep that positive attitude, be patient, and show up. It's happening.

I see very clearly. What I see is that we are getting pantsed every week.

Just keep that positive attitude, be patient, and show up.

We gonna see you on Thursday?

I'll be the one in the green Nehru jacket.

You keep working on diversity, and cricket. We'll handle the football.

(10-27-2015 10:54 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 10:29 PM)Nehru Jacket Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 08:59 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 08:09 PM)Nehru Jacket Wrote:  

(10-27-2015 06:48 PM)EagleTough Wrote:  Most with any eye for football can see clearly.

Maybe analysis just isn't your forte. If Bob agrees with you, well, enough said.

Just keep that positive attitude, be patient, and show up. It's happening.

I see very clearly. What I see is that we are getting pantsed every week.

Just keep that positive attitude, be patient, and show up.

We gonna see you on Thursday?

I'll be the one in the green Nehru jacket.

You keep working on diversity, and cricket. We'll handle the football.

I'll be clocking in at the factory with my lunch pail and my hard hat...and my green Nehru jacket. Hopefully there will be a seat for me somewhere.

I believe Nehru is from the sad old M Live EMU sports board. I suspect he is an alias for another poster who does post more serious observations on this board under a different name. This poster has a whole list of characters who basically clogged the M Live board with silliness of a 12 year old.

I'm saying this now because I don't want this board overrun with trolls.

(10-28-2015 02:36 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I believe Nehru is from the sad old M Live EMU sports board. I suspect he is an alias for another poster who does post more serious observations on this board under a different name. This poster has a whole list of characters who basically clogged the M Live board with silliness of a 12 year old.

I'm saying this now because I don't want this board overrun with trolls.

Thanks. An obvious troll. I'll put on 'ignore' from now on.

(10-28-2015 09:33 AM)EagleTough Wrote:  

(10-28-2015 02:36 AM)emu79 Wrote:  I believe Nehru is from the sad old M Live EMU sports board. I suspect he is an alias for another poster who does post more serious observations on this board under a different name. This poster has a whole list of characters who basically clogged the M Live board with silliness of a 12 year old.

I'm saying this now because I don't want this board overrun with trolls.

Thanks. An obvious troll. I'll put on 'ignore' from now on.

Great lesson to teach. Son, whenever someone disagrees with you, just ignore them. Oh, he's a troll! Oh no! (never mind the fact that the team hasn't had a winning record in 20 years!!!!). Oh, the idiocy.