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RE: UMAAS game thread
(10-25-2015 08:04 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Ely is 6'0 so he will have balls getting tipped every once in a while. 6'5 guys with their hands in air, jumping at you... would be quite frightening.

The second pick was on the receiver, you can tell by the placement of the ball.
The one in the 2nd qtr where he was scrambling right on 3rd down, should have been thrown away... Was the worst play of the game for our offense.

He still kept his head up and threw 5 TD's and got us the win. I like him.

Just previous to that play, 24 yds over the middle, ball into the D's hands, but he dropped it. Ball was late. Receiver had hit the lane and was waiting. Play just after that, Thompson open by 5 yds on sideline but pass is on outside, resulting in receiver having to reach back and make complete turn to get momentum. Properly placed ball and receiver gets at least a few yards after the catch. Third pass to a wide open Jones he has to leap and hit the ground to make the reception. Another missed pass over the middle.

And then the pass to which you are referring. Receiver was WIDE open had already made the cut and it was another ball thrown behind the receiver, even the announcer noted it, twice. The route was over. The QB throws to the outside, away from the defender and into the receiver's momentum and there's no interception. That's on the QB or the route timing, not the route running. If his cut was to take him away from the sideline then that's an enormously stupid play call. The QB consistently throws behind the receiver on the outs and has general difficulty over the middle. Distributing is a strength. Ball control and passing are not.
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RE: UMAAS game thread
(10-25-2015 08:49 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(10-25-2015 08:04 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Ely is 6'0 so he will have balls getting tipped every once in a while. 6'5 guys with their hands in air, jumping at you... would be quite frightening.

The second pick was on the receiver, you can tell by the placement of the ball.
The one in the 2nd qtr where he was scrambling right on 3rd down, should have been thrown away... Was the worst play of the game for our offense.

He still kept his head up and threw 5 TD's and got us the win. I like him.

Just previous to that play, 24 yds over the middle, ball into the D's hands, but he dropped it. Ball was late. Receiver had hit the lane and was waiting. Play just after that, Thompson open by 5 yds on sideline but pass is on outside, resulting in receiver having to reach back and make complete turn to get momentum. Properly placed ball and receiver gets at least a few yards after the catch. Third pass to a wide open Jones he has to leap and hit the ground to make the reception. Another missed pass over the middle.

And then the pass to which you are referring. Receiver was WIDE open had already made the cut and it was another ball thrown behind the receiver, even the announcer noted it, twice. The route was over. The QB throws to the outside, away from the defender and into the receiver's momentum and there's no interception. That's on the QB or the route timing, not the route running. If his cut was to take him away from the sideline then that's an enormously stupid play call. The QB consistently throws behind the receiver on the outs and has general difficulty over the middle. Distributing is a strength. Ball control and passing are not.

I'm not discounting the earlier passes in the game...

That 2nd pick he threw, even though the WR got open... was not on the correct route. I know so because I know the play, lol. Ely didn't adjust to the route the receiver ran, and threw it to where he was supposed to be. The corner adjusted after getting beat to the area where the ball was thrown and picked it off.
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If you mean the corner adjusted by standing in place and getting hit in the chest with the ball, I see where you're coming from.


To what would you attribute these supposedly mis-run routes by such a diversity of players? Ultimately, if the timing plays are not working and the other team is giving you the run, playing soft in the secondary, why is OC relying on timing plays? If there was any adjustment after half, I'd say that was it. He targeted open receivers he could see as opposed to spots on the field. I'd have to go through second half again to see if there's support for that though.
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(10-25-2015 09:46 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  If you mean the corner adjusted by standing in place and getting hit in the chest with the ball, I see where you're coming from.


To what would you attribute these supposedly mis-run routes by such a diversity of players? Ultimately, if the timing plays are not working and the other team is giving you the run, playing soft in the secondary, why is OC relying on timing plays? If there was any adjustment after half, I'd say that was it. He targeted open receivers he could see as opposed to spots on the field. I'd have to go through second half again to see if there's support for that though.

We knew they were slow at DB an tried to exploit them, but the timing was off from Ely. Sure. He came out like a man on a mission and corrected the problem. End of story.
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RE: UMAAS game thread
(10-25-2015 09:53 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  
(10-25-2015 09:46 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  If you mean the corner adjusted by standing in place and getting hit in the chest with the ball, I see where you're coming from.


To what would you attribute these supposedly mis-run routes by such a diversity of players? Ultimately, if the timing plays are not working and the other team is giving you the run, playing soft in the secondary, why is OC relying on timing plays? If there was any adjustment after half, I'd say that was it. He targeted open receivers he could see as opposed to spots on the field. I'd have to go through second half again to see if there's support for that though.

We knew they were slow at DB an tried to exploit them, but the timing was off from Ely. Sure. He came out like a man on a mission and corrected the problem. End of story.
I hope it's not end of story as this isn't the first game there's been this "timing" problem. It's been just about every game.

I think the credit this time more to the receivers for getting widely open. Seems more like they were the ones came out on the mission and the QB optioned open guys. There was one nice timed long ball along sidelines, trying to recall who got that one and another just out of reach.
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