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(10-20-2015 03:32 PM)HuskieJohn Wrote:  They put a lot of research into this.

I see this as a huge sales pitch to potential sponsors, potential large donors and partially to IL State legislators.

That's exactly what it is.
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I loved it. One thing I got out of it is he is not setting his sights on the AAC at all. Also, it seems his argument is saying that by making another BCS game, we would have been right on the brink, which makes sense.
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(10-20-2015 07:53 PM)NIUslumo Wrote:  I loved it. One thing I got out of it is he is not setting his sights on the AAC at all. Also, it seems his argument is saying that by making another BCS game, we would have been right on the brink, which makes sense.

And I would not expect him to want to be in the AAC, NIU is already in a very similar type conference with the only difference the MAC is more favorably distributed to NIU. The AAC thing was something here a few people who are obsessed with Florida teams started, no one with any foresignt has suggested this, and I certainly would never expect the NIU AD to have such non-sensible desires.
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(10-20-2015 09:16 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 07:53 PM)NIUslumo Wrote:  I loved it. One thing I got out of it is he is not setting his sights on the AAC at all. Also, it seems his argument is saying that by making another BCS game, we would have been right on the brink, which makes sense.

And I would not expect him to want to be in the AAC, NIU is already in a very similar type conference with the only difference the MAC is more favorably distributed to NIU. The AAC thing was something here a few people who are obsessed with Florida teams started, no one with any foresignt has suggested this, and I certainly would never expect the NIU AD to have such non-sensible desires.

The AAC is a better conference. In football the difference may not be huge, but is certainly clear. They win more games OOC, have a better tv contract, and draw about twice as many fans to games as the MAC. Every rating (CPU & Human) puts it ahead of the MAC. Basketball is not even close and worth discussing because of the huge difference. The AAC wins that comparison hands down. Even if a team or two left the AAC for greener pastures, it would still be better than the MAC.

The travel concerns for a move to the AAC are valid, especially for every sport other than football. I agree Frazier's ultimate goal is higher than the AAC, but it may be necessary to take a smaller step forward before making the big leap to the Big 12. He very clearly pointed out Boise and TCU's moves as small as up to CUSA, MW, and Big East. So, I don't think the AAC is his ultimate goal. It may, however, be a means to the end.
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Fits things we've talked about here. To have an opportunity to change affiliations, there's the need to grow attendance, the season ticket base, and the donor base. And with that the budget and facilities. And the university itself needs to improve in its standing in the world. He's saying athletics can be a part of that, but the fact is the university itself needs to commit to improving its standing.
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Loved every minute of this. Bring us to the AAC SF!
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(10-20-2015 11:08 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  Loved every minute of this. Bring us to the AAC SF!

lol, I don't think that is something he has ever considered, well at least it certainly does not sound like it from this. Which is a good thing, it would rival the dumbest move NIU made since going Independent.
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(10-20-2015 11:13 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:08 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  Loved every minute of this. Bring us to the AAC SF!

lol, I don't think that is something he has ever considered, well at least it certainly does not sound like it from this. Which is a good thing, it would rival the dumbest move NIU made since going Independent.

Your statement is based on one person's opinion not facts. Besides spewing all the facts again supporting the AAC>MAC move since they are obviously ignored, I will support my stance with my own opinion likewise. It would be a necessary and extremely beneficial move for athletics and the institution that would forever change the face of the university for the good.
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(10-20-2015 11:26 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:13 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:08 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  Loved every minute of this. Bring us to the AAC SF!

lol, I don't think that is something he has ever considered, well at least it certainly does not sound like it from this. Which is a good thing, it would rival the dumbest move NIU made since going Independent.

Your statement is based on one person's opinion not facts. Besides spewing all the facts again supporting the AAC>MAC move since they are obviously ignored, I will support my stance with my own opinion likewise. It would be a necessary and extremely beneficial move for athletics and the institution that would forever change the face of the university for the good.

You must be seeing something I am not because all I see is a conference that will no longer be around in 5 years. The only way it would change the face of athletics would be it would bankrupt the school. The MAC is on par with the AAC, why waste all that money in travel for a parallel move, just makes zero zero zero sense
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(10-20-2015 11:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:26 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:13 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:08 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  Loved every minute of this. Bring us to the AAC SF!

lol, I don't think that is something he has ever considered, well at least it certainly does not sound like it from this. Which is a good thing, it would rival the dumbest move NIU made since going Independent.

Your statement is based on one person's opinion not facts. Besides spewing all the facts again supporting the AAC>MAC move since they are obviously ignored, I will support my stance with my own opinion likewise. It would be a necessary and extremely beneficial move for athletics and the institution that would forever change the face of the university for the good.

You must be seeing something I am not because all I see is a conference that will no longer be around in 5 years. The only way it would change the face of athletics would be it would bankrupt the school. The MAC is on par with the AAC, why waste all that money in travel for a parallel move, just makes zero zero zero sense

Those other schools are traveling much farther than NIU on multiple occasions and are doing just fine financially. Is NIU the only school that would have to up their travel budget outside a bus league? You sound as if South Florida is 10 miles from Cinci and NIU would have to travel to Alaska every 3 days for a sport.
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(10-20-2015 11:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:26 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:13 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:08 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  Loved every minute of this. Bring us to the AAC SF!

lol, I don't think that is something he has ever considered, well at least it certainly does not sound like it from this. Which is a good thing, it would rival the dumbest move NIU made since going Independent.

Your statement is based on one person's opinion not facts. Besides spewing all the facts again supporting the AAC>MAC move since they are obviously ignored, I will support my stance with my own opinion likewise. It would be a necessary and extremely beneficial move for athletics and the institution that would forever change the face of the university for the good.

You must be seeing something I am not because all I see is a conference that will no longer be around in 5 years. The only way it would change the face of athletics would be it would bankrupt the school. The MAC is on par with the AAC, why waste all that money in travel for a parallel move, just makes zero zero zero sense

The AAC > the MAC in 9/10 of any metrics. I challenge you to name one statistic in football or basketball that places the MAC over the AAC this season. I will patiently await your reply.
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(10-20-2015 11:37 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:26 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:13 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:08 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  Loved every minute of this. Bring us to the AAC SF!

lol, I don't think that is something he has ever considered, well at least it certainly does not sound like it from this. Which is a good thing, it would rival the dumbest move NIU made since going Independent.

Your statement is based on one person's opinion not facts. Besides spewing all the facts again supporting the AAC>MAC move since they are obviously ignored, I will support my stance with my own opinion likewise. It would be a necessary and extremely beneficial move for athletics and the institution that would forever change the face of the university for the good.

You must be seeing something I am not because all I see is a conference that will no longer be around in 5 years. The only way it would change the face of athletics would be it would bankrupt the school. The MAC is on par with the AAC, why waste all that money in travel for a parallel move, just makes zero zero zero sense

Those other schools are traveling much farther than NIU on multiple occasions and are doing just fine financially. Is NIU the only school that would have to up their travel budget outside a bus league? You sound as if South Florida is 10 miles from Cinci and NIU would have to travel to Alaska every 3 days for a sport.

If the AAC was a measurably better conference I would be all for the increased cost/expense/student athlete hardship of non-stop cross country travel. But to go to all that heartache to play in a conference at almost the same prestige/quality level of the MAC is so crazy. I don't even know why someone would even dream this would be a good idea. Not only are you making it harder for student athletes for a comparable conference, you are excluding your fans from going to games too. I just don't see in any way shape or form this helps NIU, I can only think of damaging things.
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(10-20-2015 11:41 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:37 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:26 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:13 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  lol, I don't think that is something he has ever considered, well at least it certainly does not sound like it from this. Which is a good thing, it would rival the dumbest move NIU made since going Independent.

Your statement is based on one person's opinion not facts. Besides spewing all the facts again supporting the AAC>MAC move since they are obviously ignored, I will support my stance with my own opinion likewise. It would be a necessary and extremely beneficial move for athletics and the institution that would forever change the face of the university for the good.

You must be seeing something I am not because all I see is a conference that will no longer be around in 5 years. The only way it would change the face of athletics would be it would bankrupt the school. The MAC is on par with the AAC, why waste all that money in travel for a parallel move, just makes zero zero zero sense

Those other schools are traveling much farther than NIU on multiple occasions and are doing just fine financially. Is NIU the only school that would have to up their travel budget outside a bus league? You sound as if South Florida is 10 miles from Cinci and NIU would have to travel to Alaska every 3 days for a sport.

If the AAC was a measurably better conference I would be all for the increased cost/expense/student athlete hardship of non-stop cross country travel. But to go to all that heartache to play in a conference at almost the same prestige/quality level of the MAC is so crazy. I don't even know why someone would even dream this would be a good idea. Not only are you making it harder for student athletes for a comparable conference, you are excluding your fans from going to games too. I just don't see in any way shape or form this helps NIU, I can only think of damaging things.

It IS a measurable better conference. How about I spend 2 minutes and name 10 metrics.

1) AAC has better attendance for football
2) AAC has better tv times/dates for football
3) AAC has better tv contract for football
4) AAC has more wins vs P5 and G5 schools this season
5) AAC has more teams ranked, and a higher ranked team
6) AAC has a win over a ranked team
7) AAC has better bowl games
8) AAC won more bowl games last season then the MAC
9) AAC had more NCAA bids last season then the MAC
10) AAC schools have higher endowments and enrollments

These are all facts with little research required. Your definition of parallel is as stinky as poop.

As for NIU away game attendence, we only bring a few hundred fans max to away games in the MAC as it is. That is a trivial factor. NIU recruits heavily in Florida and Texas, which would give us better in roads and give the players family and friends a chance to see them play more often. So once again your negative factor os meaningless. Plus our away attendance may actually increase in the AAC due to the destination cities you can make a weekend trip out of.
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(10-20-2015 11:52 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:41 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:37 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:26 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  Your statement is based on one person's opinion not facts. Besides spewing all the facts again supporting the AAC>MAC move since they are obviously ignored, I will support my stance with my own opinion likewise. It would be a necessary and extremely beneficial move for athletics and the institution that would forever change the face of the university for the good.

You must be seeing something I am not because all I see is a conference that will no longer be around in 5 years. The only way it would change the face of athletics would be it would bankrupt the school. The MAC is on par with the AAC, why waste all that money in travel for a parallel move, just makes zero zero zero sense

Those other schools are traveling much farther than NIU on multiple occasions and are doing just fine financially. Is NIU the only school that would have to up their travel budget outside a bus league? You sound as if South Florida is 10 miles from Cinci and NIU would have to travel to Alaska every 3 days for a sport.

If the AAC was a measurably better conference I would be all for the increased cost/expense/student athlete hardship of non-stop cross country travel. But to go to all that heartache to play in a conference at almost the same prestige/quality level of the MAC is so crazy. I don't even know why someone would even dream this would be a good idea. Not only are you making it harder for student athletes for a comparable conference, you are excluding your fans from going to games too. I just don't see in any way shape or form this helps NIU, I can only think of damaging things.

It IS a measurable better conference. How about I spend 2 minutes and name 10 metrics.

1) AAC has better attendance for football
2) AAC has better tv times/dates for football
3) AAC has better tv contract for football
4) AAC has more wins vs P5 and G5 schools this season
5) AAC has more teams ranked, and a higher ranked team
6) AAC has a win over a ranked team
7) AAC has better bowl games
8) AAC won more bowl games last season then the MAC
9) AAC had more NCAA bids last season then the MAC
10) AAC schools have higher endowments and enrollments

These are all facts with little research required. Your definition of parallel is as stinky as poop.

As for NIU away game attendence, we only bring a few hundred fans max to away games in the MAC as it is. That is a trivial factor. NIU recruits heavily in Florida and Texas, which would give us better in roads and give the players family and friends a chance to see them play more often. So once again your negative factor os meaningless.

Right now the AAC is the 7th ranked football conference and the MAC is 8th, what's to say that doesn't flip around next season

I know in the MAC main board there are a lot people that like to do tiers, well with the G5 you have 2 tiers

MAC
AAC
MWC
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CUSA
Sunbelt

So you make a very very minute nudge up in tier 1,is that worth the tremendous cost. In my books, not even close.
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(10-20-2015 11:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:52 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:41 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:37 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  You must be seeing something I am not because all I see is a conference that will no longer be around in 5 years. The only way it would change the face of athletics would be it would bankrupt the school. The MAC is on par with the AAC, why waste all that money in travel for a parallel move, just makes zero zero zero sense

Those other schools are traveling much farther than NIU on multiple occasions and are doing just fine financially. Is NIU the only school that would have to up their travel budget outside a bus league? You sound as if South Florida is 10 miles from Cinci and NIU would have to travel to Alaska every 3 days for a sport.

If the AAC was a measurably better conference I would be all for the increased cost/expense/student athlete hardship of non-stop cross country travel. But to go to all that heartache to play in a conference at almost the same prestige/quality level of the MAC is so crazy. I don't even know why someone would even dream this would be a good idea. Not only are you making it harder for student athletes for a comparable conference, you are excluding your fans from going to games too. I just don't see in any way shape or form this helps NIU, I can only think of damaging things.

It IS a measurable better conference. How about I spend 2 minutes and name 10 metrics.

1) AAC has better attendance for football
2) AAC has better tv times/dates for football
3) AAC has better tv contract for football
4) AAC has more wins vs P5 and G5 schools this season
5) AAC has more teams ranked, and a higher ranked team
6) AAC has a win over a ranked team
7) AAC has better bowl games
8) AAC won more bowl games last season then the MAC
9) AAC had more NCAA bids last season then the MAC
10) AAC schools have higher endowments and enrollments

These are all facts with little research required. Your definition of parallel is as stinky as poop.

As for NIU away game attendence, we only bring a few hundred fans max to away games in the MAC as it is. That is a trivial factor. NIU recruits heavily in Florida and Texas, which would give us better in roads and give the players family and friends a chance to see them play more often. So once again your negative factor os meaningless.

Right now the AAC is the 7th ranked football conference and the MAC is 8th, what's to say that doesn't flip around next season

I know in the MAC main board there are a lot people that like to do tiers, well with the G5 you have 2 tiers

MAC
AAC
MWC
______________________________
CUSA
Sunbelt

So you make a very very minute nudge up in tier 1,is that worth the tremendous cost. In my books, not even close.

Ok so you made a counter point to #5 based on hope for next season. What say uou on the other 9 metrics?
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(10-20-2015 11:59 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:55 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:52 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:41 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:37 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  Those other schools are traveling much farther than NIU on multiple occasions and are doing just fine financially. Is NIU the only school that would have to up their travel budget outside a bus league? You sound as if South Florida is 10 miles from Cinci and NIU would have to travel to Alaska every 3 days for a sport.

If the AAC was a measurably better conference I would be all for the increased cost/expense/student athlete hardship of non-stop cross country travel. But to go to all that heartache to play in a conference at almost the same prestige/quality level of the MAC is so crazy. I don't even know why someone would even dream this would be a good idea. Not only are you making it harder for student athletes for a comparable conference, you are excluding your fans from going to games too. I just don't see in any way shape or form this helps NIU, I can only think of damaging things.

It IS a measurable better conference. How about I spend 2 minutes and name 10 metrics.

1) AAC has better attendance for football
2) AAC has better tv times/dates for football
3) AAC has better tv contract for football
4) AAC has more wins vs P5 and G5 schools this season
5) AAC has more teams ranked, and a higher ranked team
6) AAC has a win over a ranked team
7) AAC has better bowl games
8) AAC won more bowl games last season then the MAC
9) AAC had more NCAA bids last season then the MAC
10) AAC schools have higher endowments and enrollments

These are all facts with little research required. Your definition of parallel is as stinky as poop.

As for NIU away game attendence, we only bring a few hundred fans max to away games in the MAC as it is. That is a trivial factor. NIU recruits heavily in Florida and Texas, which would give us better in roads and give the players family and friends a chance to see them play more often. So once again your negative factor os meaningless.

Right now the AAC is the 7th ranked football conference and the MAC is 8th, what's to say that doesn't flip around next season

I know in the MAC main board there are a lot people that like to do tiers, well with the G5 you have 2 tiers

MAC
AAC
MWC
______________________________
CUSA
Sunbelt

So you make a very very minute nudge up in tier 1,is that worth the tremendous cost. In my books, not even close.

Ok so you made a counter point to #5 based on hope for next season. What say you on the other 9 metrics?
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Let's not forgot about another major revenue sport, basketball, where the AAC won a national championship last year while the MAC is a one bid league.
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(10-20-2015 11:41 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:37 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:26 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:13 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  lol, I don't think that is something he has ever considered, well at least it certainly does not sound like it from this. Which is a good thing, it would rival the dumbest move NIU made since going Independent.

Your statement is based on one person's opinion not facts. Besides spewing all the facts again supporting the AAC>MAC move since they are obviously ignored, I will support my stance with my own opinion likewise. It would be a necessary and extremely beneficial move for athletics and the institution that would forever change the face of the university for the good.

You must be seeing something I am not because all I see is a conference that will no longer be around in 5 years. The only way it would change the face of athletics would be it would bankrupt the school. The MAC is on par with the AAC, why waste all that money in travel for a parallel move, just makes zero zero zero sense

Those other schools are traveling much farther than NIU on multiple occasions and are doing just fine financially. Is NIU the only school that would have to up their travel budget outside a bus league? You sound as if South Florida is 10 miles from Cinci and NIU would have to travel to Alaska every 3 days for a sport.

If the AAC was a measurably better conference I would be all for the increased cost/expense/student athlete hardship of non-stop cross country travel. But to go to all that heartache to play in a conference at almost the same prestige/quality level of the MAC is so crazy. I don't even know why someone would even dream this would be a good idea. Not only are you making it harder for student athletes for a comparable conference, you are excluding your fans from going to games too. I just don't see in any way shape or form this helps NIU, I can only think of damaging things.

Oh, come on now! The old Big East isn't as prestigious as the Big 12, but it is WAY beyond "measurably" better than the MAC. It contains nationally recognized schools in major markets such as Philly, Houston, New Orleans, Cincinnati, Tulsa, and Memphis. It has football teams that are just off the cusp of being national powers. It has basketball teams that are among the elite in the nation and have been for decades.

The MAC is a conference of midwestern directional schools that hardly make a blip on the national radar.

You say there is no way, shape or form the AAC could help NIU. How about home attendance? Again, Cincinnati or Memphis is not Texas or Oklahoma, but don't you think there is a pretty good chance Huskie stadium would sell out if one of those teams were to visit? At the very least, don't you think they, and pretty much every other team in the AAC, would significantly outdraw the EMU's and Ball State's of the world?
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(10-21-2015 12:06 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  
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(10-20-2015 11:37 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:33 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  
(10-20-2015 11:26 PM)NIUSox10 Wrote:  Your statement is based on one person's opinion not facts. Besides spewing all the facts again supporting the AAC>MAC move since they are obviously ignored, I will support my stance with my own opinion likewise. It would be a necessary and extremely beneficial move for athletics and the institution that would forever change the face of the university for the good.

You must be seeing something I am not because all I see is a conference that will no longer be around in 5 years. The only way it would change the face of athletics would be it would bankrupt the school. The MAC is on par with the AAC, why waste all that money in travel for a parallel move, just makes zero zero zero sense

Those other schools are traveling much farther than NIU on multiple occasions and are doing just fine financially. Is NIU the only school that would have to up their travel budget outside a bus league? You sound as if South Florida is 10 miles from Cinci and NIU would have to travel to Alaska every 3 days for a sport.

If the AAC was a measurably better conference I would be all for the increased cost/expense/student athlete hardship of non-stop cross country travel. But to go to all that heartache to play in a conference at almost the same prestige/quality level of the MAC is so crazy. I don't even know why someone would even dream this would be a good idea. Not only are you making it harder for student athletes for a comparable conference, you are excluding your fans from going to games too. I just don't see in any way shape or form this helps NIU, I can only think of damaging things.

Oh, come on now! The old Big East isn't as prestigious as the Big 12, but it is WAY beyond "measurably" better than the MAC. It contains nationally recognized schools in major markets such as Philly, Houston, New Orleans, Cincinnati, Tulsa, and Memphis. It has football teams that are just off the cusp of being national powers. It has basketball teams that are among the elite in the nation and have been for decades.

The MAC is a conference of midwestern directional schools that hardly make a blip on the national radar.

You say there is no way, shape or form the AAC could help NIU. How about home attendance? Again, Cincinnati or Memphis is not Texas or Oklahoma, but don't you think there is a pretty good chance Huskie stadium would sell out if one of those teams were to visit? At the very least, don't you think they, and pretty much every other team in the AAC, would significantly outdraw the EMU's and Ball State's of the world?

This myth that SMU, Temple, South Florida, Tulsa, and Tulane would draw more than Ball State, Toledo, etc, is just so false. NIU fans could care less about AAC teams, absolutely care less. And why would they? I have seen many of these Friday night AAC games, and the atmospheres struggle just as much if not more than MAC weekday games.
10-21-2015 12:42 AM
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I hate chiming in on this thread, because it's pointless, but here are some (what I believe to be) facts:

1. We are not changing conferences anytime soon. Momentum is always staying put.
2. The AAC is better than the MAC. Though, both have their goods and bads, but when USF was ranked 2nd in the country a couple years ago, no ones jaw dropped (including the idiots at ESPN). If it was a MAC team it would have been the end of the world...cats and dogs living together, etc
3. The costs are too high to be anywhere other than the MAC. Don't know if you all know it or not, but we aren't rolling in the $$...which leads me to....
4. I drove through Baylors campus a couple of weeks ago. Although Waco was nothing to write home about, Baylor was. My only conclusion from seeing the campus and sports facilities was our talk to the Big 12 needs to stop. I would literally be the happiest man in the world if we went to the Big 12, but we are so far from having the resources and criteria that is needed to get an invite 03-hissyfit
10-21-2015 06:52 AM
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