(11-03-2015 10:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Southern Cal, UGA (possibly) and Oklahoma (possibly) are going to aim over Fuente's head for their hires. They're all elite programs and they'll either hire NFL HC's on the way out, HC's that have already had success at smaller p5 schools or the Bell Of The Ball coordinators like Kirby Smart. Feunte would be pretty far down their lists.

The second tier schools likes VTech, Miami and South Carolina are the ones to fear.

Aiming is one thing, hitting the mark is another altogether.

USC has the stroke to pull off a steal from a P5. Doubtful on OU or UGA. Heck, just look at where Richt and Stoops came from. They were not successful P5 HC's.

Both of those schools would come hard at CJF.

I think UGA would be on the same level as USC if that job were to open up. They could realistically target ALMOST anyone.

(11-02-2015 01:16 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  Va.Tech and Georgia…be very afraid.

Agree about these two - Va Tech, in particular.

Coach Strong is struggling at Texas and it needs rebuilding and I don't think he is as safe as people think. I have no inside info but that program concerns me about wanting Fuente's services.

(11-06-2015 11:33 AM)HometownTiger Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 10:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Southern Cal, UGA (possibly) and Oklahoma (possibly) are going to aim over Fuente's head for their hires. They're all elite programs and they'll either hire NFL HC's on the way out, HC's that have already had success at smaller p5 schools or the Bell Of The Ball coordinators like Kirby Smart. Feunte would be pretty far down their lists.

The second tier schools likes VTech, Miami and South Carolina are the ones to fear.

Aiming is one thing, hitting the mark is another altogether.

USC has the stroke to pull off a steal from a P5. Doubtful on OU or UGA. Heck, just look at where Richt and Stoops came from. They were not successful P5 HC's.

Both of those schools would come hard at CJF.

I think UGA would be on the same level as USC if that job were to open up. They could realistically target ALMOST anyone.

Maybe, we will see. I don't think so for a couple of reasons. First, it would not take much to push USC back to the top of the P12 and put them in position of making the CFP about every other year. With the money, recruiting base and lack of consistent competition, USC should dominate.

UGA has 2 of those key elements, but they have proven they are an upper-middle SEC program with more difficult competition, and who cannot make a run at a NC.

And second, look at the hiring history. USC hired Sark away from a P5 school. Before that they hired Kiffin away from a P5 school. Before that, they hired former NFL coach Carroll. Before that, Hackett came with experience at Pitt and the NFL.

UGA hired Richt who had never been a HC and was a current OC. Before that, Donnan had only been a HC at Marshall. Before that, Goff had never been a HC before.

I think CJF is exactly the kind of candidate that UGA would zero in on. Whereas, USC will go for a bigger splash hire - like Chip Kelley.

(11-06-2015 01:03 PM)David Wrote:  Coach Strong is struggling at Texas and it needs rebuilding and I don't think he is as safe as people think. I have no inside info but that program concerns me about wanting Fuente's services.

Well, if Texas calls you have to take the call. But I doubt they call. They would go for a bigger hire (a la Michigan, USC, Alabama, etc.).

(11-06-2015 11:40 AM)presskh Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 01:16 PM)Strat57 Wrote:  Va.Tech and Georgia…be very afraid.

Agree about these two - Va Tech, in particular.

I still have not heard a solid explanation of why VT in particular. Wrong geography. Mid-pack team in the wrong conference. Beamer was the only coach to have success there - and his was inconsistent. I just don't see much to be concerned about there.

Georgia, yes.

The two best job openings are So Cal and Miami

Joe Schad Verified account 
‏@schadjoe Rich Rodriguez and the South Carolina opening are worth close watching

(11-06-2015 01:48 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Joe Schad Verified account 
‏@schadjoe Rich Rodriguez and the South Carolina opening are worth close watching

Makes sense. Same for VT.

(11-03-2015 10:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Southern Cal, UGA (possibly) and Oklahoma (possibly) are going to aim over Fuente's head for their hires. They're all elite programs and they'll either hire NFL HC's on the way out, HC's that have already had success at smaller p5 schools or the Bell Of The Ball coordinators like Kirby Smart. Feunte would be pretty far down their lists.

The second tier schools likes VTech, Miami and South Carolina are the ones to fear.

Aiming is one thing, hitting the mark is another altogether.

USC has the stroke to pull off a steal from a P5. Doubtful on OU or UGA. Heck, just look at where Richt and Stoops came from. They were not successful P5 HC's.

Both of those schools would come hard at CJF.

UGA is reported to have over 120 million simply sitting in an athletic fund account for a rainy day. No need to even fundraise or call up the boosters. It's already in a U of GA account accruing interest. OU pretty much prints their own money as well. Both could likely buy and sell USC, which is a private University afterall.


They don't have the stroke to pull a P5 coach?

(11-06-2015 01:35 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  The two best job openings are So Cal and Miami

The two small private schools? No way.

(11-06-2015 03:40 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 01:35 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  The two best job openings are So Cal and Miami

The two small private schools? No way.

Rhodes College has less than 2,000 students. It is a small provide school.

The University of Miami has 17,000 students and an endowment of almost $900 million. That's about the same number of students as the University of Mississippi.

The University of Southern California has 43,000 students and an endowment of $5.6 billion.

Both of these schools are larger than Vanderbilt, Duke, or Stanford.

So I don't think either is a small school.

Oh... That was sarcasm.

(11-06-2015 03:40 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 10:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Southern Cal, UGA (possibly) and Oklahoma (possibly) are going to aim over Fuente's head for their hires. They're all elite programs and they'll either hire NFL HC's on the way out, HC's that have already had success at smaller p5 schools or the Bell Of The Ball coordinators like Kirby Smart. Feunte would be pretty far down their lists.

The second tier schools likes VTech, Miami and South Carolina are the ones to fear.

Aiming is one thing, hitting the mark is another altogether.

USC has the stroke to pull off a steal from a P5. Doubtful on OU or UGA. Heck, just look at where Richt and Stoops came from. They were not successful P5 HC's.

Both of those schools would come hard at CJF.

UGA is reported to have over 120 million simply sitting in an athletic fund account for a rainy day. No need to even fundraise or call up the boosters. It's already in a U of GA account accruing interest. OU pretty much prints their own money as well. Both could likely buy and sell USC, which is a private University afterall.


They don't have the stroke to pull a P5 coach?

Not about the money. They all have the money. Including the P5 schools that the potential candidates would come from.

For an established P5 coach to move, it's about the chance to win a NC and have long term success. UGA and OU have not proven they are those schools. They can't even win their conferences. USC is certainly that school in the P12.

If UGA can hire anyone they want, why haven't they ever done that before? You really think an OC with no experience was the first choice when they hired Richt - out of all the coaches in the whole world?

Utini ‏@PromiscuousJawa · 2m2 minutes ago
Illinois and South Carolina have contacted Houston Coach Tom Herman about their vacant head coaching positions.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 45m45 minutes ago
If I were Georgia my first calls would be Jimbo, Dantonio, Patterson and Shaw. Make them tell you no.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 44m44 minutes ago
Yes. I think UGA is a top-three job in the country.

(11-06-2015 05:04 PM)Latilleon Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 03:40 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 01:35 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  The two best job openings are So Cal and Miami

The two small private schools? No way.

Rhodes College has less than 2,000 students. It is a small provide school.

The University of Miami has 17,000 students and an endowment of almost $900 million. That's about the same number of students as the University of Mississippi.

The University of Southern California has 43,000 students and an endowment of $5.6 billion.

Both of these schools are larger than Vanderbilt, Duke, or Stanford.

So I don't think either is a small school.

Oh... That was sarcasm.

Miami is most definitely a small school, and their academic endowment doesn't come into play when we're talking about the Athletic Dept.

USC is about as large as the University of Memphis when it comes to undergrad enrollment, and is about double the size of Miami.

USC has more athletic money than Miami to throw around, and USC is the largest private university in D1, but both are small schools compared to Michigan, Illinois, Arizona, etc. These schools aren't small in respect to other private schools, they're small in respect the schools that will be the big contenders for the major coaching hires (Miami moreso than USC).

They simply don't have the pull that the big state schools have, AD-wise.

(11-08-2015 10:37 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 45m45 minutes ago
If I were Georgia my first calls would be Jimbo, Dantonio, Patterson and Shaw. Make them tell you no.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 44m44 minutes ago
Yes. I think UGA is a top-three job in the country.

UGA. should be a top job... top 3? im not sure.

Bama Ohio State, UT and USC are probably the 4 top jobs.

Ok, Ufla, Michigan and FSU are probably the next level, I think UGA should be in ths group.

(11-06-2015 11:10 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 03:40 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 10:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Southern Cal, UGA (possibly) and Oklahoma (possibly) are going to aim over Fuente's head for their hires. They're all elite programs and they'll either hire NFL HC's on the way out, HC's that have already had success at smaller p5 schools or the Bell Of The Ball coordinators like Kirby Smart. Feunte would be pretty far down their lists.

The second tier schools likes VTech, Miami and South Carolina are the ones to fear.

Aiming is one thing, hitting the mark is another altogether.

USC has the stroke to pull off a steal from a P5. Doubtful on OU or UGA. Heck, just look at where Richt and Stoops came from. They were not successful P5 HC's.

Both of those schools would come hard at CJF.

UGA is reported to have over 120 million simply sitting in an athletic fund account for a rainy day. No need to even fundraise or call up the boosters. It's already in a U of GA account accruing interest. OU pretty much prints their own money as well. Both could likely buy and sell USC, which is a private University afterall.


They don't have the stroke to pull a P5 coach?

Not about the money. They all have the money. Including the P5 schools that the potential candidates would come from.

For an established P5 coach to move, it's about the chance to win a NC and have long term success. UGA and OU have not proven they are those schools. They can't even win their conferences. USC is certainly that school in the P12.

If UGA can hire anyone they want, why haven't they ever done that before? You really think an OC with no experience was the first choice when they hired Richt - out of all the coaches in the whole world?

Because Mark Richt has been there winning 10 games per season; same with OU and Stoops.

This kind of rationale is absurd; it's like saying that Bama wasn't a top job when Shula, DuBose and Franchione were the coaches.

Great jobs are great jobs because of money, conference affiliation, fan support and facilities. Georgia has all of that in spades.

(11-08-2015 10:37 PM)80sTiger Wrote:  Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 45m45 minutes ago
If I were Georgia my first calls would be Jimbo, Dantonio, Patterson and Shaw. Make them tell you no.

Dan Wolken ‏@DanWolken · 44m44 minutes ago
Yes. I think UGA is a top-three job in the country.

That's crazy talk.

(11-09-2015 10:42 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 11:10 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-06-2015 03:40 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(11-03-2015 10:47 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(11-02-2015 12:44 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Southern Cal, UGA (possibly) and Oklahoma (possibly) are going to aim over Fuente's head for their hires. They're all elite programs and they'll either hire NFL HC's on the way out, HC's that have already had success at smaller p5 schools or the Bell Of The Ball coordinators like Kirby Smart. Feunte would be pretty far down their lists.

The second tier schools likes VTech, Miami and South Carolina are the ones to fear.

Aiming is one thing, hitting the mark is another altogether.

USC has the stroke to pull off a steal from a P5. Doubtful on OU or UGA. Heck, just look at where Richt and Stoops came from. They were not successful P5 HC's.

Both of those schools would come hard at CJF.

UGA is reported to have over 120 million simply sitting in an athletic fund account for a rainy day. No need to even fundraise or call up the boosters. It's already in a U of GA account accruing interest. OU pretty much prints their own money as well. Both could likely buy and sell USC, which is a private University afterall.


They don't have the stroke to pull a P5 coach?

Not about the money. They all have the money. Including the P5 schools that the potential candidates would come from.

For an established P5 coach to move, it's about the chance to win a NC and have long term success. UGA and OU have not proven they are those schools. They can't even win their conferences. USC is certainly that school in the P12.

If UGA can hire anyone they want, why haven't they ever done that before? You really think an OC with no experience was the first choice when they hired Richt - out of all the coaches in the whole world?

Because Mark Richt has been there winning 10 games per season; same with OU and Stoops.

This kind of rationale is absurd; it's like saying that Bama wasn't a top job when Shula, DuBose and Franchione were the coaches.

Great jobs are great jobs because of money, conference affiliation, fan support and facilities. Georgia has all of that in spades.

Franchione was a big hire. Didn't work out, but a big hire. The other 2 were back when they were stuck on that Bear Legacy thing. They got over it. Bama has a history to back up the top 3 job thing.

UGA does not. And the fact that they will be running off a guy averaging 9-10 wins a year will not help their cause in attracting a successful P5 coach. Jimbo and Patterson aren't leaving places where they are solid and in good position to compete for NC's every year, to go to UGA.