So to continue from another thread which ODU teams or Offensive/defensive units were the best? Which players have stood out on those units/teams? Oh, and favorite special teams folk as well. We have sure had some great kickers in all phases of the game.
(10-08-2015 12:29 PM)ETSUDB8-79 Wrote: So to continue from another thread which ODU teams or Offensive/defensive units were the best? Which players have stood out on those units/teams? Oh, and favorite special teams folk as well. We have sure had some great kickers in all phases of the game.
Best overall defense - right now
Best overall offense - 2012
Best overall team 2011
Best punter Jonathan Plisco
Best kicker Jarod Brown
Best QB TH
Best RB Ray Lawry
Best OL David Born
Best DL Ronnie Cameron
Best LB Craig Wilkins
Best DB Felonte Misher
Best WR Larry Pinkard
Best Coach Bobby Wilder
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(10-08-2015 12:29 PM)ETSUDB8-79 Wrote: So to continue from another thread which ODU teams or Offensive/defensive units were the best? Which players have stood out on those units/teams? Oh, and favorite special teams folk as well. We have sure had some great kickers in all phases of the game.
Best overall defense - right now
Best overall offense - 2012
Best overall team 2011
Best punter Jonathan Plisco
Best kicker Jarod Brown
Best QB TH
Best RB Ray Lawry
Best OL David Born
Best DL Ronnie Cameron
Best LB Craig Wilkins
Best DB Felonte Misher
Best Coach Bobby Wilder
(10-08-2015 12:29 PM)ETSUDB8-79 Wrote: So to continue from another thread which ODU teams or Offensive/defensive units were the best? Which players have stood out on those units/teams? Oh, and favorite special teams folk as well. We have sure had some great kickers in all phases of the game.
Best overall defense - right now
Best overall offense - 2012
Best overall team 2011
Best punter Jonathan Plisco
Best kicker Jarod Brown
Best QB TH
Best RB Ray Lawry
Best OL David Born
Best DL Ronnie Cameron
Best LB Craig Wilkins
Best DB Felonte Misher
Best Coach Bobby Wilder
Pretty fair and some without question, I do think we're going to see some of these young DL and DB's come out better in the long run.
Give me Ricks over Wilkins, and I think I might take Coward over Cameron (and definitely would take this defensive line unit over any others we've had). Also, FWIW, give me Antonio Vaughan as the Best WR (others may have been more talented...I'm looking at you Pinkard...) but Vaughan was better for us, if for no other reason, because he gave us all four years.
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(10-08-2015 12:48 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: Give me Ricks over Wilkins, and I think I might take Coward over Cameron (and definitely would take this defensive line unit over any others we've had). Also, FWIW, give me Antonio Vaughan as the Best WR (others may have been more talented...I'm looking at you Pinkard...) but Vaughan was better for us, if for no other reason, because he gave us all four years.
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Coach, come on. Wilkins would dominate any of our current LBs. The biggest difference is he could catch a football when it hit him in the hands. I like TJ, but he has issues catching errant passes right in his hands. Prerequisite for being a good LB
(10-08-2015 12:48 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: Give me Ricks over Wilkins, and I think I might take Coward over Cameron (and definitely would take this defensive line unit over any others we've had). Also, FWIW, give me Antonio Vaughan as the Best WR (others may have been more talented...I'm looking at you Pinkard...) but Vaughan was better for us, if for no other reason, because he gave us all four years.
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Certainly the entire defensive line is better than we have ever had. I need to look more closley at Ricks. I have no clue on Coward as an individual talent.
I think I still have to take Pinkard from a pure talent perspective, but I know at least one poster on here that agrees with you about Vaughan, right David?
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I don't know how you can have a conversation about ODU's best wide receiver without including Nick Mayers. Here is his highlight video. Watch all the way to the end and be amazed. If he was two or three inches taller, he would be playing in the NFL today.
We have had several great receivers in our short span (A. Vaughan, Pinkard, B. Roberts, N. Mayers, Pascal, etc) but I always wondered what could have been with Reid Evans... Its a shame that he got into some legal trouble, I feel like he could have been a huge asset for Heinicke, along with the others who got kicked off the team (I can't remember if it was during the same year or not)
(10-08-2015 01:16 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote: I don't know how you can have a conversation about ODU's best wide receiver without including Nick Mayers. Here is his highlight video. Watch all the way to the end and be amazed. If he was two or three inches taller, he would be playing in the NFL today.
I agree. He is one of my favorite receivers we've ever had. He was so fast and could catch anything Taylor threw his way
(10-08-2015 01:16 PM)ODU AGGIE Wrote: I don't know how you can have a conversation about ODU's best wide receiver without including Nick Mayers. Here is his highlight video. Watch all the way to the end and be amazed. If he was two or three inches taller, he would be playing in the NFL today.
I agree. He is one of my favorite receivers we've ever had. He was so fast and could catch anything Taylor threw his way
Nick Mayers was the most clutch receiver I can remember us having. It seemed like he was always catching the tough passes on 3rd & 4th down that were needed to extend the drive. His season in 2012 was pretty awesome: 1233 yards receiving, 16 touchdowns, averaging 95 yards a game. I don't know if we'll see a receiver who was that in sync with the QB for a while.
(10-08-2015 12:48 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: Give me Ricks over Wilkins, and I think I might take Coward over Cameron (and definitely would take this defensive line unit over any others we've had). Also, FWIW, give me Antonio Vaughan as the Best WR (others may have been more talented...I'm looking at you Pinkard...) but Vaughan was better for us, if for no other reason, because he gave us all four years.
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Certainly the entire defensive line is better than we have ever had. I need to look more closley at Ricks. I have no clue on Coward as an individual talent.
I think I still have to take Pinkard from a pure talent perspective, but I know at least one poster on here that agrees with you about Vaughan, right David?
Vaughan and Mayers were really great receivers. Pinkard is very close to sticking it in the pro's.
Just to point out something very important. Guys will look better playing against JMU then they will playing against Conference USA foes. Any comparison of the 2011 teams vs. 2015 is highly subjective in that sense.
In my personal opinion, the surrounding talent outside of QB is significantly better now than it has ever been (in aggregate). This is something supported by Bobby Wilder. Ray Lawry is the best RB we've ever had. Ward/Fox/Coward/XImenes is a huge step up from any defensive line we have ever seen. Our defensive lines back then didn't dominate FCS competition and we are now seeing our DL win battles vs. FBS competition. Many of the players we have on defense would have never considered ODU if we were FCS.
Larry Pinkard is the best WR we have every had, imo. It's a shame we didn't get to see his senior year.
Tyler Fisher is possibly the best OL we have every had. (IMO, he is) Talent wise, Garcia and Clarke are far more talented than Morrell, Lowney, Born, etc, but they are both young right now. I would expect all 3 to get "looks" in the NFL.
Its too early to tell right now how many FBS wins we will have this year. Without Heinicke, I do not think we would have had any FBS wins in our history. I think people are forgetting how large of the jump in talent is from FCS to FBS and it's not simply depth.
(10-08-2015 12:48 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: Give me Ricks over Wilkins, and I think I might take Coward over Cameron (and definitely would take this defensive line unit over any others we've had). Also, FWIW, give me Antonio Vaughan as the Best WR (others may have been more talented...I'm looking at you Pinkard...) but Vaughan was better for us, if for no other reason, because he gave us all four years.
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Coach, come on. Wilkins would dominate any of our current LBs. The biggest difference is he could catch a football when it hit him in the hands. I like TJ, but he has issues catching errant passes right in his hands. Prerequisite for being a good LB
I'm thinking Wilkins would be a safety on today's team.
Outside of the play makers and stars we have had Drew Hareza will always have a place in my book.
In our first game vs. Chowan he was 5 for 5 on field goals and 3 for 3 on extra points. He accounted for 18 points that game. I'll remember him for being the star of the game. I would say if we had the kickers we have now we would barely win that game.
(10-08-2015 12:48 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: Give me Ricks over Wilkins, and I think I might take Coward over Cameron (and definitely would take this defensive line unit over any others we've had). Also, FWIW, give me Antonio Vaughan as the Best WR (others may have been more talented...I'm looking at you Pinkard...) but Vaughan was better for us, if for no other reason, because he gave us all four years.
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Coach, come on. Wilkins would dominate any of our current LBs. The biggest difference is he could catch a football when it hit him in the hands. I like TJ, but he has issues catching errant passes right in his hands. Prerequisite for being a good LB
I'm thinking Wilkins would be a safety on today's team.
TBH when I first saw him play I thought he was a safety lol, it was a combination of his size (before he bulked up) and number
(10-08-2015 12:48 PM)ODUCoach Wrote: Give me Ricks over Wilkins, and I think I might take Coward over Cameron (and definitely would take this defensive line unit over any others we've had). Also, FWIW, give me Antonio Vaughan as the Best WR (others may have been more talented...I'm looking at you Pinkard...) but Vaughan was better for us, if for no other reason, because he gave us all four years.
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Coach, come on. Wilkins would dominate any of our current LBs. The biggest difference is he could catch a football when it hit him in the hands. I like TJ, but he has issues catching errant passes right in his hands. Prerequisite for being a good LB
I'm thinking Wilkins would be a safety on today's team.
TBH when I first saw him play I thought he was a safety lol, it was a combination of his size (before he bulked up) and number
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