Hopefully Drew is ok, obviously need him to get anywhere this season.

ALOT of different plays could have been called in that situation (graham substitution)

Alot of questions going in to this Saturday, hopefully we get the answers.

I think Huff is not trusted for missing blocking assignments and the occasional fumble/bad ball handling

(10-07-2015 03:07 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Raising the issue of the coaching staff not going through the concussion protocol with Hare is totally uncalled for. None of us knows whether Hare was concussed or whether he went through the protocol while he was on the sidelines.

There is zero reason to think that this coaching staff would be stupid enough to be that negligent and irresponsible. Zero.

This is exactly the type of meathead ignorance that eventually will get all football banned. Hare's eyes were rolling into the back of his head on one play and he was not walking in a straight line back to the huddle. I'm not saying the coaching staff knew he was concussed and deliberately made him play...but the awareness from players and coaches really needs to increase in this matter because it is a potential life changing health risk. Everyone just needs to be more aware of these type of things like with Hare this Saturday. If someone saw what was going on he at least should have been pulled for the end of the series. It is not an easy thing..but awareness needs to be raised.

If Hare does have any health issues right now other than a concussion, it has to be finger/thumb related as he could not literally hold onto the football

(10-07-2015 04:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 03:07 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Raising the issue of the coaching staff not going through the concussion protocol with Hare is totally uncalled for. None of us knows whether Hare was concussed or whether he went through the protocol while he was on the sidelines.

There is zero reason to think that this coaching staff would be stupid enough to be that negligent and irresponsible. Zero.

This is exactly the type of meathead ignorance that eventually will get all football banned. Hare's eyes were rolling into the back of his head on one play and he was not walking in a straight line back to the huddle. I'm not saying the coaching staff knew he was concussed and deliberately made him play...but the awareness from players and coaches really needs to increase in this matter because it is a potential life changing health risk. Everyone just needs to be more aware of these type of things like with Hare this Saturday. If someone saw what was going on he at least should have been pulled for the end of the series. It is not an easy thing..but awareness needs to be raised.

If Hare does have any health issues right now other than a concussion, it has to be finger/thumb related as he could not literally hold onto the football

MD, I was at the game how in hell do you know his eyes were rolling in the back of his head. This is the type of stuff that is so irresponsible you should be banned from this board. The accusation you are making is so beyond the pale, even suggesting it is irresponsible. If you think for a minute we don't have a responsible protical for concussions then you are dummer then your posts. PJ was going to sue a poster, I'd sue you if I was the staff. Man, shutup

(10-07-2015 04:19 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 03:07 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Raising the issue of the coaching staff not going through the concussion protocol with Hare is totally uncalled for. None of us knows whether Hare was concussed or whether he went through the protocol while he was on the sidelines.

There is zero reason to think that this coaching staff would be stupid enough to be that negligent and irresponsible. Zero.

This is exactly the type of meathead ignorance that eventually will get all football banned. Hare's eyes were rolling into the back of his head on one play and he was not walking in a straight line back to the huddle. I'm not saying the coaching staff knew he was concussed and deliberately made him play...but the awareness from players and coaches really needs to increase in this matter because it is a potential life changing health risk. Everyone just needs to be more aware of these type of things like with Hare this Saturday. If someone saw what was going on he at least should have been pulled for the end of the series. It is not an easy thing..but awareness needs to be raised.

If Hare does have any health issues right now other than a concussion, it has to be finger/thumb related as he could not literally hold onto the football

MD, I was at the game how in hell do you know his eyes were rolling in the back of his head. This is the type of stuff that is so irresponsible you should be banned from this board. The accusation you are making is so beyond the pale, even suggesting it is irresponsible. If you think for a minute we don't have a responsible protical for concussions then you are dummer then your posts. PJ was going to sue a poster, I'd sue you if I was the staff. Man, shutup

Well if you were at the game, then you didn't see jackcrap, but then again you usually do not know your rear from your head so it doesn't really matter. On TV, Hare was not with it, it was very very obvious. People on the board were discussing it in real time, it was obvious there was an issue. I am not saying the coaching staff should have identified, but everyone needs to be more aware of these type of issues because ideally Hare would have been examined after that play.

Watching the replay again, it is pretty obvious to me Hare has a right thumb injury.

(10-07-2015 04:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:19 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 03:07 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Raising the issue of the coaching staff not going through the concussion protocol with Hare is totally uncalled for. None of us knows whether Hare was concussed or whether he went through the protocol while he was on the sidelines.

There is zero reason to think that this coaching staff would be stupid enough to be that negligent and irresponsible. Zero.

This is exactly the type of meathead ignorance that eventually will get all football banned. Hare's eyes were rolling into the back of his head on one play and he was not walking in a straight line back to the huddle. I'm not saying the coaching staff knew he was concussed and deliberately made him play...but the awareness from players and coaches really needs to increase in this matter because it is a potential life changing health risk. Everyone just needs to be more aware of these type of things like with Hare this Saturday. If someone saw what was going on he at least should have been pulled for the end of the series. It is not an easy thing..but awareness needs to be raised.

If Hare does have any health issues right now other than a concussion, it has to be finger/thumb related as he could not literally hold onto the football

MD, I was at the game how in hell do you know his eyes were rolling in the back of his head. This is the type of stuff that is so irresponsible you should be banned from this board. The accusation you are making is so beyond the pale, even suggesting it is irresponsible. If you think for a minute we don't have a responsible protical for concussions then you are dummer then your posts. PJ was going to sue a poster, I'd sue you if I was the staff. Man, shutup

Well if you were at the game, then you didn't see jackcrap, but then again you usually do not know your rear from your head so it doesn't really matter. On TV, Hare was not with it, it was very very obvious. People on the board were discussing it in real time, it was obvious there was an issue. I am not saying the coaching staff should have identified, but everyone needs to be more aware of these type of issues because ideally Hare would have been examined after that play.

Watching the replay again, it is pretty obvious to me Hare has a right thumb injury.

I just scrolled through the game thread. Saw no such "discussions." Saw one post from BikeChuck saying Hare got hit an he hoped he was ok. Is that what you're referring to? It was so obvious that no one else commented on it?

(10-07-2015 06:13 PM)DiehardHuskie Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:19 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 03:07 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Raising the issue of the coaching staff not going through the concussion protocol with Hare is totally uncalled for. None of us knows whether Hare was concussed or whether he went through the protocol while he was on the sidelines.

There is zero reason to think that this coaching staff would be stupid enough to be that negligent and irresponsible. Zero.

This is exactly the type of meathead ignorance that eventually will get all football banned. Hare's eyes were rolling into the back of his head on one play and he was not walking in a straight line back to the huddle. I'm not saying the coaching staff knew he was concussed and deliberately made him play...but the awareness from players and coaches really needs to increase in this matter because it is a potential life changing health risk. Everyone just needs to be more aware of these type of things like with Hare this Saturday. If someone saw what was going on he at least should have been pulled for the end of the series. It is not an easy thing..but awareness needs to be raised.

If Hare does have any health issues right now other than a concussion, it has to be finger/thumb related as he could not literally hold onto the football

MD, I was at the game how in hell do you know his eyes were rolling in the back of his head. This is the type of stuff that is so irresponsible you should be banned from this board. The accusation you are making is so beyond the pale, even suggesting it is irresponsible. If you think for a minute we don't have a responsible protical for concussions then you are dummer then your posts. PJ was going to sue a poster, I'd sue you if I was the staff. Man, shutup

Well if you were at the game, then you didn't see jackcrap, but then again you usually do not know your rear from your head so it doesn't really matter. On TV, Hare was not with it, it was very very obvious. People on the board were discussing it in real time, it was obvious there was an issue. I am not saying the coaching staff should have identified, but everyone needs to be more aware of these type of issues because ideally Hare would have been examined after that play.

Watching the replay again, it is pretty obvious to me Hare has a right thumb injury.

I just scrolled through the game thread. Saw no such "discussions." Saw one post from BikeChuck saying Hare got hit an he hoped he was ok. Is that what you're referring to? It was so obvious that no one else commented on it?

Its at about 2:05 on the ESPN3 broadcast, and then a minute later at 2:06 they replay it to try and see where Hare may have been shaken up.

I know this is dangerous...I'm with MD on this 100%.

It was pretty darn clear on that play he got pretty jacked up. I'm not going to speculate on concussed or not because that's not my place but I will say that I was completely shocked that the officials let this ride with today's sensitivity to head injuries. There was at least reason for caution of intervention by the refs or the sideline.

Just perspective Coming from a guy that's all too familiar with concussions on the football field....unfortunately.

Hopefully 7's inside track is something that allows him to manage through it and stay on the field because we are clearly effed if we have to go to Graham. I actually think Ryan can work his way into a serviceable back up at this level but he's just not there.

(10-07-2015 12:08 PM)7 Wrote:  I have said that multiple times, both on here and on twitter in last 4 days.

Armed with new information, I want to take back those comments.

Drew Hare isn't healthy. I'm not going to go into details, but he's not.

It was less throwing poop at the wall and hoping it sticks, and more hoping Graham could function better than a less than 100% Hare.

If you want to keep ripping Carey, Cole, Hare, etc, but due to transfers (Root, McIntosh) and injuries (Hare, Maddie), they're in a really difficult spot right now.

After seeing some of his throws in the cmu where his arm looked like a loose rubber band kinda limp (not his normal throwing motion) I'm going with something wrong with his shoulder. Partially dislocated or hyperextended it. Have had it happen to me before pitching and the arm just doesn't have the same feeling when throwing and can't control it as well. He was slinging it much different in the unlv game. Hope nothing and pray for nothing but a quick and speedy recovery.

I have our QBs lined up for Saturday. I am starting NIU007, and rotate him with jjprender. They will each be allowed one pass but can do an unlimited number of jet sweeps.

(10-07-2015 04:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:19 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 03:07 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Raising the issue of the coaching staff not going through the concussion protocol with Hare is totally uncalled for. None of us knows whether Hare was concussed or whether he went through the protocol while he was on the sidelines.

There is zero reason to think that this coaching staff would be stupid enough to be that negligent and irresponsible. Zero.

This is exactly the type of meathead ignorance that eventually will get all football banned. Hare's eyes were rolling into the back of his head on one play and he was not walking in a straight line back to the huddle. I'm not saying the coaching staff knew he was concussed and deliberately made him play...but the awareness from players and coaches really needs to increase in this matter because it is a potential life changing health risk. Everyone just needs to be more aware of these type of things like with Hare this Saturday. If someone saw what was going on he at least should have been pulled for the end of the series. It is not an easy thing..but awareness needs to be raised.

If Hare does have any health issues right now other than a concussion, it has to be finger/thumb related as he could not literally hold onto the football

MD, I was at the game how in hell do you know his eyes were rolling in the back of his head. This is the type of stuff that is so irresponsible you should be banned from this board. The accusation you are making is so beyond the pale, even suggesting it is irresponsible. If you think for a minute we don't have a responsible protical for concussions then you are dummer then your posts. PJ was going to sue a poster, I'd sue you if I was the staff. Man, shutup

Well if you were at the game, then you didn't see jackcrap, but then again you usually do not know your rear from your head so it doesn't really matter. On TV, Hare was not with it, it was very very obvious. People on the board were discussing it in real time, it was obvious there was an issue. I am not saying the coaching staff should have identified, but everyone needs to be more aware of these type of issues because ideally Hare would have been examined after that play.

Watching the replay again, it is pretty obvious to me Hare has a right thumb injury.

I saw the same thing MD. He got popped to the head and got up all groggy. They zoomed in on Drew and he looked really disoriented and glossy eyed.

GCD...you are a blowhard, quit acting like a big shot ya twit. Only a true dbag threatens to sue.

I hope to see some wildcat this week. Right to deucee

(10-07-2015 08:14 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:19 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 03:07 PM)huskiebob Wrote:  Raising the issue of the coaching staff not going through the concussion protocol with Hare is totally uncalled for. None of us knows whether Hare was concussed or whether he went through the protocol while he was on the sidelines.

There is zero reason to think that this coaching staff would be stupid enough to be that negligent and irresponsible. Zero.

This is exactly the type of meathead ignorance that eventually will get all football banned. Hare's eyes were rolling into the back of his head on one play and he was not walking in a straight line back to the huddle. I'm not saying the coaching staff knew he was concussed and deliberately made him play...but the awareness from players and coaches really needs to increase in this matter because it is a potential life changing health risk. Everyone just needs to be more aware of these type of things like with Hare this Saturday. If someone saw what was going on he at least should have been pulled for the end of the series. It is not an easy thing..but awareness needs to be raised.

If Hare does have any health issues right now other than a concussion, it has to be finger/thumb related as he could not literally hold onto the football

MD, I was at the game how in hell do you know his eyes were rolling in the back of his head. This is the type of stuff that is so irresponsible you should be banned from this board. The accusation you are making is so beyond the pale, even suggesting it is irresponsible. If you think for a minute we don't have a responsible protical for concussions then you are dummer then your posts. PJ was going to sue a poster, I'd sue you if I was the staff. Man, shutup

Well if you were at the game, then you didn't see jackcrap, but then again you usually do not know your rear from your head so it doesn't really matter. On TV, Hare was not with it, it was very very obvious. People on the board were discussing it in real time, it was obvious there was an issue. I am not saying the coaching staff should have identified, but everyone needs to be more aware of these type of issues because ideally Hare would have been examined after that play.

Watching the replay again, it is pretty obvious to me Hare has a right thumb injury.

I saw the same thing MD. He got popped to the head and got up all groggy. They zoomed in on Drew and he looked really disoriented and glossy eyed.

GCD...you are a blowhard, quit acting like a big shot ya twit. Only a true dbag threatens to sue.

what play during the game are you guys referring to?
can you provide a time/qtr etc, Id like to see this play.

(10-07-2015 09:42 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 08:14 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:19 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  This is exactly the type of meathead ignorance that eventually will get all football banned. Hare's eyes were rolling into the back of his head on one play and he was not walking in a straight line back to the huddle. I'm not saying the coaching staff knew he was concussed and deliberately made him play...but the awareness from players and coaches really needs to increase in this matter because it is a potential life changing health risk. Everyone just needs to be more aware of these type of things like with Hare this Saturday. If someone saw what was going on he at least should have been pulled for the end of the series. It is not an easy thing..but awareness needs to be raised.

If Hare does have any health issues right now other than a concussion, it has to be finger/thumb related as he could not literally hold onto the football

MD, I was at the game how in hell do you know his eyes were rolling in the back of his head. This is the type of stuff that is so irresponsible you should be banned from this board. The accusation you are making is so beyond the pale, even suggesting it is irresponsible. If you think for a minute we don't have a responsible protical for concussions then you are dummer then your posts. PJ was going to sue a poster, I'd sue you if I was the staff. Man, shutup

Well if you were at the game, then you didn't see jackcrap, but then again you usually do not know your rear from your head so it doesn't really matter. On TV, Hare was not with it, it was very very obvious. People on the board were discussing it in real time, it was obvious there was an issue. I am not saying the coaching staff should have identified, but everyone needs to be more aware of these type of issues because ideally Hare would have been examined after that play.

Watching the replay again, it is pretty obvious to me Hare has a right thumb injury.

I saw the same thing MD. He got popped to the head and got up all groggy. They zoomed in on Drew and he looked really disoriented and glossy eyed.

GCD...you are a blowhard, quit acting like a big shot ya twit. Only a true dbag threatens to sue.

what play during the game are you guys referring to?
can you provide a time/qtr etc, Id like to see this play.

Can't remember the exact time of game, but in the ESPN3 replay, it is approximately at 2:05:25 and they show a replay of it at about 2:06:00. It did not look like a real violent hit but it really shook him up, not sure what happened.

(10-07-2015 12:08 PM)7 Wrote:  I have said that multiple times, both on here and on twitter in last 4 days.

Armed with new information, I want to take back those comments.

Drew Hare isn't healthy. I'm not going to go into details, but he's not.

It was less throwing poop at the wall and hoping it sticks, and more hoping Graham could function better than a less than 100% Hare.

If you want to keep ripping Carey, Cole, Hare, etc, but due to transfers (Root, McIntosh) and injuries (Hare, Maddie), they're in a really difficult spot right now.

So, is he injured or not? If he's injured, why does he come right back in the game after Graham throws the pick?

That leads to two possible conclusions; one this information you are armed with is inaccurate, or two, Coach Carey doesn't really care that his kid is injured.

So if the information is inaccurate, it's still an all time dumb coaching decision, correct? And if your information IS correct, then Coach Carey should be condemned for not caring about the safety of a twenty year old student athlete. He pulls out the injured player, only to return him when the backup proves to be ineffective.

Strangely, you wrote the post trying to defend your heroic Coach. You have just made me think even less of him, though.

(10-08-2015 02:23 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 12:08 PM)7 Wrote:  I have said that multiple times, both on here and on twitter in last 4 days.

Armed with new information, I want to take back those comments.

Drew Hare isn't healthy. I'm not going to go into details, but he's not.

It was less throwing poop at the wall and hoping it sticks, and more hoping Graham could function better than a less than 100% Hare.

If you want to keep ripping Carey, Cole, Hare, etc, but due to transfers (Root, McIntosh) and injuries (Hare, Maddie), they're in a really difficult spot right now.

So, is he injured or not? If he's injured, why does he come right back in the game after Graham throws the pick?

That leads to two possible conclusions; one this information you are armed with is inaccurate, or two, Coach Carey doesn't really care that his kid is injured.

So if the information is inaccurate, it's still an all time dumb coaching decision, correct? And if your information IS correct, then Coach Carey should be condemned for not caring about the safety of a twenty year old student athlete. He pulls out the injured player, only to return him when the backup proves to be ineffective.

Strangely, you wrote the post trying to defend your heroic Coach. You have just made me think even less of him, though.

If you're talking about sending a kid back out on the field with a concussion, yes, that's terrible. However, I don't think that's what 7 was getting at.

If you're talking about a kid, that has some injuries that are painful, plenty of players come out of a game for a while to get them checked/wrapped/iced/whatever...and then go back in. It's a pretty common practice in football...

(10-08-2015 08:20 AM)17Huskies Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 02:23 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 12:08 PM)7 Wrote:  I have said that multiple times, both on here and on twitter in last 4 days.

Armed with new information, I want to take back those comments.

Drew Hare isn't healthy. I'm not going to go into details, but he's not.

It was less throwing poop at the wall and hoping it sticks, and more hoping Graham could function better than a less than 100% Hare.

If you want to keep ripping Carey, Cole, Hare, etc, but due to transfers (Root, McIntosh) and injuries (Hare, Maddie), they're in a really difficult spot right now.

So, is he injured or not? If he's injured, why does he come right back in the game after Graham throws the pick?

That leads to two possible conclusions; one this information you are armed with is inaccurate, or two, Coach Carey doesn't really care that his kid is injured.

So if the information is inaccurate, it's still an all time dumb coaching decision, correct? And if your information IS correct, then Coach Carey should be condemned for not caring about the safety of a twenty year old student athlete. He pulls out the injured player, only to return him when the backup proves to be ineffective.

Strangely, you wrote the post trying to defend your heroic Coach. You have just made me think even less of him, though.

If you're talking about sending a kid back out on the field with a concussion, yes, that's terrible. However, I don't think that's what 7 was getting at.

If you're talking about a kid, that has some injuries that are painful, plenty of players come out of a game for a while to get them checked/wrapped/iced/whatever...and then go back in. It's a pretty common practice in football...

If the coaches are sending out a concussed player in this situation....I agree.

If the coaches are sending out a dinged up player in this situation....relax.

(10-07-2015 10:24 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 09:42 PM)dpgohuskies Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 08:14 PM)prairiedawg Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:21 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 04:19 PM)GCD70 Wrote:  MD, I was at the game how in hell do you know his eyes were rolling in the back of his head. This is the type of stuff that is so irresponsible you should be banned from this board. The accusation you are making is so beyond the pale, even suggesting it is irresponsible. If you think for a minute we don't have a responsible protical for concussions then you are dummer then your posts. PJ was going to sue a poster, I'd sue you if I was the staff. Man, shutup

Well if you were at the game, then you didn't see jackcrap, but then again you usually do not know your rear from your head so it doesn't really matter. On TV, Hare was not with it, it was very very obvious. People on the board were discussing it in real time, it was obvious there was an issue. I am not saying the coaching staff should have identified, but everyone needs to be more aware of these type of issues because ideally Hare would have been examined after that play.

Watching the replay again, it is pretty obvious to me Hare has a right thumb injury.

I saw the same thing MD. He got popped to the head and got up all groggy. They zoomed in on Drew and he looked really disoriented and glossy eyed.

GCD...you are a blowhard, quit acting like a big shot ya twit. Only a true dbag threatens to sue.

what play during the game are you guys referring to?
can you provide a time/qtr etc, Id like to see this play.

Can't remember the exact time of game, but in the ESPN3 replay, it is approximately at 2:05:25 and they show a replay of it at about 2:06:00. It did not look like a real violent hit but it really shook him up, not sure what happened.

I was actually watching the game with my wife and SHE saw that and brought that to my attention. She goes, "Okay, uhhh Hare looks like he's drunk right there. Should he even be playing right now? He's like walking all weird back to the huddle!" At that point they showed the replay too. I'm no neurologist and DEFINITELY not part of the staff, but I DID see that incident too.

(10-08-2015 02:23 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 12:08 PM)7 Wrote:  I have said that multiple times, both on here and on twitter in last 4 days.

Armed with new information, I want to take back those comments.

Drew Hare isn't healthy. I'm not going to go into details, but he's not.

It was less throwing poop at the wall and hoping it sticks, and more hoping Graham could function better than a less than 100% Hare.

If you want to keep ripping Carey, Cole, Hare, etc, but due to transfers (Root, McIntosh) and injuries (Hare, Maddie), they're in a really difficult spot right now.

So, is he injured or not? If he's injured, why does he come right back in the game after Graham throws the pick?

That leads to two possible conclusions; one this information you are armed with is inaccurate, or two, Coach Carey doesn't really care that his kid is injured.

So if the information is inaccurate, it's still an all time dumb coaching decision, correct? And if your information IS correct, then Coach Carey should be condemned for not caring about the safety of a twenty year old student athlete. He pulls out the injured player, only to return him when the backup proves to be ineffective.

Strangely, you wrote the post trying to defend your heroic Coach. You have just made me think even less of him, though.

Does anybody care what you think? It's football. Guys play through pain/injuries all the time. It had nothing to do with a concussion.

(10-08-2015 10:55 AM)7 Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 02:23 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 12:08 PM)7 Wrote:  I have said that multiple times, both on here and on twitter in last 4 days.

Armed with new information, I want to take back those comments.

Drew Hare isn't healthy. I'm not going to go into details, but he's not.

It was less throwing poop at the wall and hoping it sticks, and more hoping Graham could function better than a less than 100% Hare.

If you want to keep ripping Carey, Cole, Hare, etc, but due to transfers (Root, McIntosh) and injuries (Hare, Maddie), they're in a really difficult spot right now.

So, is he injured or not? If he's injured, why does he come right back in the game after Graham throws the pick?

That leads to two possible conclusions; one this information you are armed with is inaccurate, or two, Coach Carey doesn't really care that his kid is injured.

So if the information is inaccurate, it's still an all time dumb coaching decision, correct? And if your information IS correct, then Coach Carey should be condemned for not caring about the safety of a twenty year old student athlete. He pulls out the injured player, only to return him when the backup proves to be ineffective.

Strangely, you wrote the post trying to defend your heroic Coach. You have just made me think even less of him, though.

Does anybody care what you think? It's football. Guys play through pain/injuries all the time. It had nothing to do with a concussion.

Fact is that anybody can get knocked a bit "woozy" and not be concussed. And, the other fact is that there are a number of trainers and the team doctor on the sidelines any of which can overrule a coaches decision to play an individual if they think that there is something seriously wrong. To suggest that Carey, any of his staff or the athletic trainers would let an athlete compete if not healthy enough is ignorant.

(10-08-2015 11:33 AM)sportsfan Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 10:55 AM)7 Wrote:  

(10-08-2015 02:23 AM)VegasHuskie Wrote:  

(10-07-2015 12:08 PM)7 Wrote:  I have said that multiple times, both on here and on twitter in last 4 days.

Armed with new information, I want to take back those comments.

Drew Hare isn't healthy. I'm not going to go into details, but he's not.

It was less throwing poop at the wall and hoping it sticks, and more hoping Graham could function better than a less than 100% Hare.

If you want to keep ripping Carey, Cole, Hare, etc, but due to transfers (Root, McIntosh) and injuries (Hare, Maddie), they're in a really difficult spot right now.

So, is he injured or not? If he's injured, why does he come right back in the game after Graham throws the pick?

That leads to two possible conclusions; one this information you are armed with is inaccurate, or two, Coach Carey doesn't really care that his kid is injured.

So if the information is inaccurate, it's still an all time dumb coaching decision, correct? And if your information IS correct, then Coach Carey should be condemned for not caring about the safety of a twenty year old student athlete. He pulls out the injured player, only to return him when the backup proves to be ineffective.

Strangely, you wrote the post trying to defend your heroic Coach. You have just made me think even less of him, though.

Does anybody care what you think? It's football. Guys play through pain/injuries all the time. It had nothing to do with a concussion.

Fact is that anybody can get knocked a bit "woozy" and not be concussed. And, the other fact is that there are a number of trainers and the team doctor on the sidelines any of which can overrule a coaches decision to play an individual if they think that there is something seriously wrong. To suggest that Carey, any of his staff or the athletic trainers would let an athlete compete if not healthy enough is ignorant.

Nobody at all was arguing that Carey was throwing out Hare with an injury deliberately. My only point is that Hare should have been pulled from the game to examine him for a concussion when he could not walk in a straight line. Coaches and player alike need to be more cognizant to this issue. I am not even saying Hare had a concussion but he was displaying enough symptoms to be pulled at the time. The issue 7 is talking about is a finger/thumb issue.