If there has been a theme with the improving Flames it's been their inability to stay focused after a big win with their next game. This week it's Gardner Webb. Granted GW has struggled to win any games this year but this games is of concern. On paper, LU should win by 20+. But we play on the field and not on keyboards or paper. If LU feels like they can coast, and if the games is close in the 3rd quarter, then they'll be concern. Good teams become great teams when they have convincing wins after bigger wins. LU is yet to achieve that. Let's hope it begins with GW Saturday.

You are correct about the possibility of a let down. However, I feel confident that Liberty will beat GW and maybe comfortably. I seemed to me that LU was very workman like in the Ga. State game, as if we knew we were going to win.

(10-04-2015 09:30 PM)army56mike Wrote:  You are correct about the possibility of a let down. However, I feel confident that Liberty will beat GW and maybe comfortably. I seemed to me that LU was very workman like in the Ga. State game, as if we knew we were going to win.

If LU is able to win out, and CCU is undefeated, and with CCU's FBC invite , that will be possibly 2 top 5 teams playing November 19.

I imagine that is so. If we win out I think we will be Top 5 by seasons end. I expect to beat CCU as well. However, before the season I picked us to lose to Chuck So. I'm sticking to that. So far the season has played out exactly like I predicted. Hopefully we win out though.

(10-04-2015 09:30 PM)army56mike Wrote:  You are correct about the possibility of a let down. However, I feel confident that Liberty will beat GW and maybe comfortably. I seemed to me that LU was very workman like in the Ga. State game, as if we knew we were going to win.

Still in 1st quarter, GW leads LU 14-0 and Lunsford just had his 3rd FG attempt blocked. Time for Gill and Wimbley to get into some young men's faces and have them regain their focus. Alan York just said that Gill got into the defense huddle while the team was on the sidelines. Fortunately, LU just intercepted.

In this particular post and comment, I hate that my comment came true. Two steps forward and one step backwards, or is it two steps backwards and one step forward. I befuddled at this point.

Well, didn't see that one coming. That stinks.

(10-10-2015 09:16 PM)army56mike Wrote:  Well, didn't see that one coming. That stinks.

This kind of loss is the left over baggage from a program getting better but still clinging to past mistakes and missteps. As reaching the playoffs last year and winning a playoff game last year were major steps forward, this loss, which is a repeat of last year's Charleston Southern game, is another stinker. Don't know if it's focus, players, coaching, or preparation but it is a problem, a mindset, and non disputable action that is indefensible of the status of the program.

Embarrassing loss. TG has issues getting his team prepared when it's not a big game. Frustrating. .

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(10-10-2015 09:32 PM)Libertygrad01 Wrote:  Embarrassing loss. TG has issues getting his team prepared when it's not a big game. Frustrating. .

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It's games like this that produce doubt we're FBS ready. This one good game, one bad game mentality needs to be fixed fast. Chris Lang just tweeted that LU's only chance for post season is to win out the BSC and that means beating Coastal, which now, seems like a tall order. The difference today was that Coastal was playing an inferior opponent (PC), like LU, and they stepped it up enough to create the will to win. LU did not, again, and this is really getting old, and frustrating.

Edit: I'm betting LU drops from the top 25. There are more deserving 3-3 teams.

(10-10-2015 09:20 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(10-10-2015 09:16 PM)army56mike Wrote:  Well, didn't see that one coming. That stinks.

This kind of loss is the left over baggage from a program getting better but still clinging to past mistakes and missteps. As reaching the playoffs last year and winning a playoff game last year were major steps forward, this loss, which is a repeat of last year's Charleston Southern game, is another stinker. Don't know if it's focus, players, coaching, or preparation but it is a problem, a mindset, and non disputable action that is indefensible of the status of the program.

This is Gill's fourth year at Liberty, right? We can stop placing blame on Rocco. 90% of the team is Gill's recruits.

We have a plenty of seniors on the roster, players who should know better. The team appears to lack leadership whether it is a coaching or player deficiency.

The Charleston Southern game from last year was a whole different animal as Liberty was without Woodrum for the game and used a young quarterback making his first career start.

(10-11-2015 08:03 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  This is Gill's fourth year at Liberty, right? We can stop placing blame on Rocco. 90% of the team is Gill's recruits.

I'm not so sure we can blame the loss on Gill. Not even sure that's what you're saying. The players left how many points on the field..... 16? Now, I guess it was his players who didn't make the plays, so maybe he should have gotten better players. But, I'm pretty happy with our players. They just didn't make the plays last night.

It seemed last week that Gill was a great coach. I think the problem was the players just couldn't execute

(10-10-2015 09:20 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  This kind of loss is the left over baggage from a program getting better but still clinging to past mistakes and missteps. As reaching the playoffs last year and winning a playoff game last year were major steps forward, this loss, which is a repeat of last year's Charleston Southern game, is another stinker. Don't know if it's focus, players, coaching, or preparation but it is a problem, a mindset, and non disputable action that is indefensible of the status of the program.

This is what I was referring to from still blaming Rocco for things. We have to stop looking for others to blame and start looking inward. Gill is a good coach, not great though in my opinion. He's got to motivate the team and to avoid this slip ups. We are a better team than this. We have more resources than every other Big South school and almost, if not all, FCS schools. If we want to be FBS we have to be better.

(10-11-2015 09:48 AM)army56mike Wrote:  

(10-11-2015 08:03 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  This is Gill's fourth year at Liberty, right? We can stop placing blame on Rocco. 90% of the team is Gill's recruits.

I'm not so sure we can blame the loss on Gill. Not even sure that's what you're saying. The players left how many points on the field..... 16? Now, I guess it was his players who didn't make the plays, so maybe he should have gotten better players. But, I'm pretty happy with our players. They just didn't make the plays last night.

(10-11-2015 08:03 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  

(10-10-2015 09:20 PM)NewTimes Wrote:  

(10-10-2015 09:16 PM)army56mike Wrote:  Well, didn't see that one coming. That stinks.

This kind of loss is the left over baggage from a program getting better but still clinging to past mistakes and missteps. As reaching the playoffs last year and winning a playoff game last year were major steps forward, this loss, which is a repeat of last year's Charleston Southern game, is another stinker. Don't know if it's focus, players, coaching, or preparation but it is a problem, a mindset, and non disputable action that is indefensible of the status of the program.

This is Gill's fourth year at Liberty, right? We can stop placing blame on Rocco. 90% of the team is Gill's recruits.

We have a plenty of seniors on the roster, players who should know better. The team appears to lack leadership whether it is a coaching or player deficiency.

The Charleston Southern game from last year was a whole different animal as Liberty was without Woodrum for the game and used a young quarterback making his first career start.

I'm not putting the blame on Gill or Woodrum. I am saying that Woodrum has been very vocal this year, having stated numerous times on broadcast TV, at press conferences and on LibertyFlames.com that he was expecting everyone to step up to play for a national championship, or not come out for the team. It's a team win and a team loss. No one loses or wins a game. What's missing so far, that I am yet to hear, it for Woodrum to criticize himself saying he did not play up to the standards he is asking everyone else to play to.

I don't think he is a good quarterback as his records and past performance shows. Being a good QB is not necessarily the same as being a strong leader. There are fewer good QB's that are very good leaders. I've seen Woodrum display that in the past. It's time to see it now to salvage the season. And whose blaming Gill? I have yet to see anyone here post say Gill is the problem.