"The proposed new city regulations, which could only be aimed at High Bridge Arms, would have required the shop to take and preserve video of all transactions and turn customers' personal data over to police on a weekly basis."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/24/sur...tcmp=hpbt3

(09-24-2015 04:04 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "The proposed new city regulations, which could only be aimed at High Bridge Arms, would have required the shop to take and preserve video of all transactions and turn customers' personal data over to police on a weekly basis."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/24/sur...tcmp=hpbt3

You can't create laws that make it hard to run an abortion clinic, which isn't a specifically enumerated right, but you can do it to run gun shops out of business and gun ownership is an enumerated right.

Sounds about right for California and the overall American extreme left wing.

(09-24-2015 04:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 04:04 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "The proposed new city regulations, which could only be aimed at High Bridge Arms, would have required the shop to take and preserve video of all transactions and turn customers' personal data over to police on a weekly basis."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/24/sur...tcmp=hpbt3

You can't create laws that make it hard to run an abortion clinic, which isn't a specifically enumerated right, but you can do it to run gun shops out of business and gun ownership is an enumerated right.

Sounds about right for California and the overall American extreme left wing.

So what do they do when the gun shop closes and gun violence continues? Oh that's right, blame someone else.

Unlike right wing abortion regulations, which are literally impossible to comply with in many places, the gun shop could have complied with the regulations easily and at a reasonable cost. How does one open an abortion clinic in Amarillo Texas? Or in Abilene? Oh, you literally can't. Unless you buy a hospital first. And they aren't for sale to Planned Parenthood.

And nothing in those regulations is against the constitution. I think it would be an excellent idea to enact that statewide. And make it a felony to not register a gun upon entry into California.

And SF is such a hell hole that its real estate market is completely gone, right? I think they're basically giving away places to live in SF. Oh, they aren't?

(09-24-2015 06:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Unlike right wing abortion regulations, which are literally impossible to comply with in many places, the gun shop could have complied with the regulations easily and at a reasonable cost. How does one open an abortion clinic in Amarillo Texas? Or in Abilene? Oh, you literally can't. Unless you buy a hospital first. And they aren't for sale to Planned Parenthood.

And nothing in those regulations is against the constitution. I think it would be an excellent idea to enact that statewide. And make it a felony to not register a gun upon entry into California.

Which amendment of the US Constitution specifically allows for abortion again?

Quote:And SF is such a hell hole that its real estate market is completely gone, right? I think they're basically giving away places to live in SF. Oh, they aren't?

I hope the real estate market in San Fran keeps growing. The more leftists that move there the better. When the big earthquake hits it will be a win/win for liberty everywhere.

This is just california's way of controlling their population. Make it a s**thole to live in and people will move to other parts. Colorado is one such exodus destiny. In Texas they went to Austin. El Paso is getting pretty bad with "the liberal view" not there yet though. Thank God.

A felony to own a tool but not to murder babies. Cool.

(09-24-2015 06:51 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  This is just california's way of controlling their population. Make it a s**thole to live in and people will move to other parts. Colorado is one such exodus destiny. In Texas they went to Austin. El Paso is getting pretty bad with "the liberal view" not there yet though. Thank God.

You sound like okiedokie. Don't do that.

People having the abortions should have to be on a registry or names in the the paper.

(09-24-2015 06:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 06:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Unlike right wing abortion regulations, which are literally impossible to comply with in many places, the gun shop could have complied with the regulations easily and at a reasonable cost. How does one open an abortion clinic in Amarillo Texas? Or in Abilene? Oh, you literally can't. Unless you buy a hospital first. And they aren't for sale to Planned Parenthood.

And nothing in those regulations is against the constitution. I think it would be an excellent idea to enact that statewide. And make it a felony to not register a gun upon entry into California.

Which amendment of the US Constitution specifically allows for abortion again?

Quote:And SF is such a hell hole that its real estate market is completely gone, right? I think they're basically giving away places to live in SF. Oh, they aren't?

I hope the real estate market in San Fran keeps growing. The more leftists that move there the better. When the big earthquake hits it will be a win/win for liberty everywhere.

Article III
14th Amendment

(09-24-2015 04:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 04:04 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "The proposed new city regulations, which could only be aimed at High Bridge Arms, would have required the shop to take and preserve video of all transactions and turn customers' personal data over to police on a weekly basis."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/24/sur...tcmp=hpbt3

You can't create laws that make it hard to run an abortion clinic, which isn't a specifically enumerated right, but you can do it to run gun shops out of business and gun ownership is an enumerated right.

Sounds about right for California and the overall American extreme left wing.

you're joking right?

(09-24-2015 09:43 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 06:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 06:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Unlike right wing abortion regulations, which are literally impossible to comply with in many places, the gun shop could have complied with the regulations easily and at a reasonable cost. How does one open an abortion clinic in Amarillo Texas? Or in Abilene? Oh, you literally can't. Unless you buy a hospital first. And they aren't for sale to Planned Parenthood.

And nothing in those regulations is against the constitution. I think it would be an excellent idea to enact that statewide. And make it a felony to not register a gun upon entry into California.

Which amendment of the US Constitution specifically allows for abortion again?

Quote:And SF is such a hell hole that its real estate market is completely gone, right? I think they're basically giving away places to live in SF. Oh, they aren't?

I hope the real estate market in San Fran keeps growing. The more leftists that move there the better. When the big earthquake hits it will be a win/win for liberty everywhere.

Article III
14th Amendment

Don't see abortion mentioned a single time in either.

Try again.

I'm Puzzled that Tom has Strong feelings about Abortion to start with unless it's only because it's only a Liberal agenda for getting Liberals fired up for elections of Democrats.

4% of em would have been gay. Don't you care Tom?

War on gays.

While normally I am up in arms about **** like this, I long ago gave up on San Francisco. This is EXACTLY what rich San Francisco liberals want.

Normal Americans and little things like the Constitution are not going to keep a San Francisco liberal from obtaining that cheap sense of moral superiority that comes with riding in like a white knight.

Personally, I say let them eat their cake.

(09-25-2015 08:53 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  While normally I am up in arms about **** like this, I long ago gave up on San Francisco. This is EXACTLY what rich San Francisco liberals want.

Normal Americans and little things like the Constitution are not going to keep a San Francisco liberal from obtaining that cheap sense of moral superiority that comes with riding in like a white knight.

Personally, I say let them eat their cake.

This, and I would also add in, if an illegal is caught using a Gun in a violent crime, add 30 years to the sentence without parole.

(09-24-2015 04:04 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "The proposed new city regulations, which could only be aimed at High Bridge Arms, would have required the shop to take and preserve video of all transactions and turn customers' personal data over to police on a weekly basis."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/24/sur...tcmp=hpbt3

This from a city that won't abide by federal law to turn over criminal illegals. Hypocrisy at a high level.

(09-24-2015 06:45 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Unlike right wing abortion regulations, which are literally impossible to comply with in many places, the gun shop could have complied with the regulations easily and at a reasonable cost. How does one open an abortion clinic in Amarillo Texas? Or in Abilene? Oh, you literally can't. Unless you buy a hospital first. And they aren't for sale to Planned Parenthood.

And nothing in those regulations is against the constitution. I think it would be an excellent idea to enact that statewide. And make it a felony to not register a gun upon entry into California.

Your willingness to mis-state facts knows no bounds.

1) your interpretation of what it takes to open an abortion clinic is ludicrously wrong. It's so wrong, It's not even worth arguing with you anymore.

2) Similar laws have been declared unconstitutional many times. However, someone must be willing to spend the money to fight it, and I doubt it's important enough to do so in such a small area. The company can easily move to cheaper real-estate and keep the name and legacy... and customers for that matter if they want. Having a right to do business doesn't mean you have the right to do that business wherever you want. See strip clubs and churches or schools.... but it seems that they are simply tired of being targets.

As the article says, this is just one more example of people wanting to 'look' like they're addressing a problem, without actually doing so.

(09-24-2015 04:07 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(09-24-2015 04:04 PM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote:  "The proposed new city regulations, which could only be aimed at High Bridge Arms, would have required the shop to take and preserve video of all transactions and turn customers' personal data over to police on a weekly basis."

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/09/24/sur...tcmp=hpbt3

You can't create laws that make it hard to run an abortion clinic, which isn't a specifically enumerated right, but you can do it to run gun shops out of business and gun ownership is an enumerated right.

Sounds about right for California and the overall American extreme left wing.

Then you haven't been to Texas. They have passed laws that makes it virtually impossible to have an abortion.