(09-14-2015 02:00 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 12:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  4-1 ACC,
Iowa wins at home.

Iowa is the only one of the five B1G teams that is favored (by 5 1/2). UNC is the only double digit favorite (10 1/2). I'm surprised the spread is that big.

Ken that 10 point spread must have happened today, yesterday the Heels were -7.5.

(09-14-2015 04:35 PM)ecuacc4ever Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 02:53 PM)DexterDevil Wrote:  I have no idea why everyone is jumping to say Duke is gonna win, Northwestern beat Stanford for crying out loud...

For the 18 folks who have currently submitted picks in the ACCbbs Pickem for week 3, 13 of 'em are picking Duke.

I think had Northwestern won AT Stanford, that ratio would be closer.

How is the breakdown in yours looking...?

Quite a bit of homerism, I actually picked against the Spartans, Maryland, Iowa, and Indiana. Homerism isn't very strong with this one, I prefer to be right and win the thing than be a homer. Northwestern being home doesn't do much, stadium isn't that large and isn't made with acoustics in mind, nor was is winter in snow or cold, not that much home field advantage in my opinion and Stanford isn't really a team to be heavily affected by not being at home after being used to the Rose Bowl, Autzen, and USCw stadium.

(09-14-2015 02:00 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 12:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  4-1 ACC,
Iowa wins at home.

Iowa is the only one of the five B1G teams that is favored (by 5 1/2). UNC is the only double digit favorite (10 1/2). I'm surprised the spread is that big.

I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Fedora is incompetent enough to lose this game.

(09-14-2015 05:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 02:00 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 12:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  4-1 ACC,
Iowa wins at home.

Iowa is the only one of the five B1G teams that is favored (by 5 1/2). UNC is the only double digit favorite (10 1/2). I'm surprised the spread is that big.

I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Fedora is incompetent enough to lose this game.

Unfortunately you are correct. We should destroy them but coaching has kept us from reaching our potential.

(09-14-2015 05:17 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 02:00 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 12:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  4-1 ACC,
Iowa wins at home.

Iowa is the only one of the five B1G teams that is favored (by 5 1/2). UNC is the only double digit favorite (10 1/2). I'm surprised the spread is that big.

I wouldn't touch that with a 10 foot pole. Fedora is incompetent enough to lose this game.

That's sad..........

BUT TRUE!
and we are only in year 4 of a 7 year contract.....I'm not sure we will be able to wait past this year.

How did Fedora get the Tarheel job, I never thought he was all that great.

(09-14-2015 07:03 PM)Policiious Wrote:  How did Fedora get the Tarheel job, I never thought he was all that great.

We had to replace the entire defensive staff this year as a result of a "come to Jesus" meeting with Fedora.
Somebody (the school/AD/Fedora) hired Gene Chizik as DC. Chizik hired former Nebraska DC John Papuchis as linebackers coach and former Nebraska DB coach Charlton Warren. The defense is playing much, much better, but we still run a Mickey Mouse offense.

(09-14-2015 07:03 PM)Policiious Wrote:  How did Fedora get the Tarheel job, I never thought he was all that great.

My theory? North Carolina panicked and put too much emphasis on one game. He was the toast of college football for beating an almost assured BCS bound Houston in the CUSA Championship game. The handful of UNC fans who care about football were vocal in wanting a quality replacement for Butch Davis after the Withers fiasco and UNC grabbed the shiny new toy. As it stands he's pretty much been at UNC what he really is......a mediocre coach who's career signature win is still the 2011 CUSA Championship game.

(09-14-2015 04:40 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 02:00 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 12:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  4-1 ACC,
Iowa wins at home.

Iowa is the only one of the five B1G teams that is favored (by 5 1/2). UNC is the only double digit favorite (10 1/2). I'm surprised the spread is that big.

Ken that 10 point spread must have happened today, yesterday the Heels were -7.5.

The line I quoted was from early this afternoon. Since then, it has moved back down to 10. Lines move often, but twice in a day seems a little unusual to me, especially on a game where you wouldn't expect a lot of traffic. Makes me wonder if there's some news I haven't heard yet.

(09-14-2015 07:22 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 04:40 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 02:00 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 12:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  4-1 ACC,
Iowa wins at home.

Iowa is the only one of the five B1G teams that is favored (by 5 1/2). UNC is the only double digit favorite (10 1/2). I'm surprised the spread is that big.

Ken that 10 point spread must have happened today, yesterday the Heels were -7.5.

The line I quoted was from early this afternoon. Since then, it has moved back down to 10. Lines move often, but twice in a day seems a little unusual to me, especially on a game where you wouldn't expect a lot of traffic. Makes me wonder if there's some news I haven't heard yet.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-foot...me/1200#BT

(09-14-2015 07:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 07:03 PM)Policiious Wrote:  How did Fedora get the Tarheel job, I never thought he was all that great.

My theory? North Carolina panicked and put too much emphasis on one game. He was the toast of college football for beating an almost assured BCS bound Houston in the CUSA Championship game. The handful of UNC fans who care about football were vocal in wanting a quality replacement for Butch Davis after the Withers fiasco and UNC grabbed the shiny new toy. As it stands he's pretty much been at UNC what he really is......a mediocre coach who's career signature win is still the 2011 CUSA Championship game.

Can't really dispute that.

+1

(09-14-2015 02:11 PM)Policiious Wrote:  Pitt though winning their first 2 games, have not looked good doing it under their first year HC. Youngstown gave them a real battle in the opener, Pitt winning by 1 TD and Akron may be the worst MAC team this year, Pitt won 24-7.

From your lips to God's ears, the Wagon Wheel seems like it could be the only thing Kent will be playing for this year.

(09-14-2015 07:46 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 07:22 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 04:40 PM)XLance Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 02:00 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-14-2015 12:00 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  4-1 ACC,
Iowa wins at home.

Iowa is the only one of the five B1G teams that is favored (by 5 1/2). UNC is the only double digit favorite (10 1/2). I'm surprised the spread is that big.

Ken that 10 point spread must have happened today, yesterday the Heels were -7.5.

The line I quoted was from early this afternoon. Since then, it has moved back down to 10. Lines move often, but twice in a day seems a little unusual to me, especially on a game where you wouldn't expect a lot of traffic. Makes me wonder if there's some news I haven't heard yet.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-foot...me/1200#BT

The takeaway for me here is that there was one outlier whose early line was much tighter than all the others. Frankly, his was the one I would have thought the most reasonable. However, since the spreads are not a reflection of what the bookie thinks the relative strengths of the teams justify, but rather how he thinks bettors will judge them, by game time all the different lines should pretty much converge.

In my experience, whenever I think the bookies have offered me a gimme, I turn out to be wrong.

(09-14-2015 11:38 AM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(09-13-2015 08:59 PM)goofus Wrote:  In a very weird scheduling quirk, 5 teams from the BigTen West are taking on 5 teams from the ACC Coastal this upcoming week

Illinois @ North Carolina
Northwestern @ Duke
Virginia Tech @ Purdue
Nebraska @ Miami
Pittsburgh @ Iowa

The battle for the 7th best division in college football is on! I predict the B10 West will prevail 4-1.

According to Jeff Sagarin's conference ratings the B1G West is the 4th best conference division so far this year. Better than the B1G East, Pac-12 North, both ACC divisions and the SEC East.

How would the Big 12 rank if it was considered a 10-team division.

(09-14-2015 11:38 AM)Nebraskafan Wrote:  

(09-13-2015 08:59 PM)goofus Wrote:  In a very weird scheduling quirk, 5 teams from the BigTen West are taking on 5 teams from the ACC Coastal this upcoming week

Illinois @ North Carolina
Northwestern @ Duke
Virginia Tech @ Purdue
Nebraska @ Miami
Pittsburgh @ Iowa

The battle for the 7th best division in college football is on! I predict the B10 West will prevail 4-1.

According to Jeff Sagarin's conference ratings the B1G West is the 4th best conference division so far this year. Better than the B1G East, Pac-12 North, both ACC divisions and the SEC East.

In years past, Sagarin's site used a clear disclaimer that said his ratings were not valid until at least around week 5 or so, after more teams had played each other. Don't know why he dropped the disclaimer.

To show why and how they are invalid, consider the Illinois-UNC game. Sagarin's ratings would say that Illinois should be a 3 point favorite this week over UNC (Illinois' rating is 6 points higher, less 3 points for UNC's home field advantage). Instead, UNC is actually favored by 10 1/2 - a two touchdown swing. So let's hold off a while before we start comparing conferences and divisions based on Sagarin.

so far ACC up in first 2 games. Illinois doesn't look good at all vs UNC. Duke up 7-3 on Northwestern.

and of course posting law- you post something and 2 seconds later Northwestern gets a TD 15 seconds in the 3rd.

First 2 games are in the books.

NW beats Duke
UNC embarrasses ILL

its all tied up 1-1

The sad thing is that many Illinois players probably aren't even embarrassed. The program has been that bad.

It feels from afar H1 that the program should be WAY better than it has been. Pretty decent location. Good History. What gives?