Sports Illustrated writer Mike Rosenberg recently compiled a list of football programs with the most player arrests over the past 5 years. If I were a big time d-1 recruit and saw these statistics, I would stay away from this "top 25" school list. This has to be hurting A&M in recruiting

Top College Football Programs for Arrests over the past 5 years (as reported by Mike Rosenberg as culled from arrestnation.com)
1. Washington State 31
2. Florida 24
3. Georgia 22
4. Texas A&M 22
5. Oklahoma 21
6. Iowa State 20
7. Missouri 20
8. Ole Miss 20
9. West Virginia 20
10. Florida State 19
11. Tennessee 19
12. Alabama 18
13. Iowa 18
14. Kentucky 18
15. LSU 16
16. Marshall 16
17. Oregon State 16
18. Pittsburgh 16
19. Arkansas 14
20. Michigan 14
21. Oklahoma State 14
22. Purdue 14
23. Auburn 13
24. Colorado 13
25. Kansas 13
26. Nebraska 12
27. Ohio State 12
28. East Carolina 11
29. Mississippi State 11
30. Texas Christian University 11
31. Central Michigan 10
32. Middle Tennessee 10
33. Syracuse 10
34. Texas 10
35. Virginia Tech 10
36. Western Kentucky 10
37. Arizona State 9
38. Cincinnati 9
39. Illinois 9
40. South Carolina 9
41. Arizona 8
42. Bowling Green 8
43. Colorado State 8
44. Georgia Southern 8
45. South Florida 8
46. U Conn 8
47. Baylor 7
48. Indiana 7
49. Louisville 7
50. Miami 7
51. Michigan State 7
52. Nevada 7
53. New Mexico 7
54. North Carolina 7
55. Northern Illinois 7
56. Ball State 6
57. Clemson 6
58. Hawaii 6
59. Maryland 6
60. North Texas 6
61. Texas Tech 6
62. Boise state 5
63. Louisville Lafayette 5
64. NC State 5
65. Notre Dame 5
66. Southern Mississippi 5
67. Tulane 5

SEC is the Penitentiary Conference :)

(08-20-2015 02:24 PM)Kayjay Wrote:  Sports Illustrated writer Mike Rosenberg recently compiled a list of football programs with the most player arrests over the past 5 years. If I were a big time d-1 recruit and saw these statistics, I would stay away from this "top 25" school list. This has to be hurting A&M in recruiting

Top College Football Programs for Arrests over the past 5 years (as reported by Mike Rosenberg as culled from arrestnation.com)
1. Washington State 31
2. Florida 24
3. Georgia 22
4. Texas A&M 22
5. Oklahoma 21
6. Iowa State 20
7. Missouri 20
8. Ole Miss 20
9. West Virginia 20
10. Florida State 19
11. Tennessee 19
12. Alabama 18
13. Iowa 18
14. Kentucky 18
15. LSU 16
16. Marshall 16
17. Oregon State 16
18. Pittsburgh 16
19. Arkansas 14
20. Michigan 14
21. Oklahoma State 14
22. Purdue 14
23. Auburn 13
24. Colorado 13
25. Kansas 13
26. Nebraska 12
27. Ohio State 12
28. East Carolina 11
29. Mississippi State 11
30. Texas Christian University 11
31. Central Michigan 10
32. Middle Tennessee 10
33. Syracuse 10
34. Texas 10
35. Virginia Tech 10
36. Western Kentucky 10
37. Arizona State 9
38. Cincinnati 9
39. Illinois 9
40. South Carolina 9
41. Arizona 8
42. Bowling Green 8
43. Colorado State 8
44. Georgia Southern 8
45. South Florida 8
46. U Conn 8
47. Baylor 7
48. Indiana 7
49. Louisville 7
50. Miami 7
51. Michigan State 7
52. Nevada 7
53. New Mexico 7
54. North Carolina 7
55. Northern Illinois 7
56. Ball State 6
57. Clemson 6
58. Hawaii 6
59. Maryland 6
60. North Texas 6
61. Texas Tech 6
62. Boise state 5
63. Louisville Lafayette 5
64. NC State 5
65. Notre Dame 5
66. Southern Mississippi 5
67. Tulane 5

Go Aggies, Go! You should be NUMBER 1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

so, who are the perennial Top25teams NOT on that list?

I don't see USC, UCLA, Az, Az St, Auburn, BYU or Boise St.

(08-20-2015 06:02 PM)Tomball Owl Wrote:  I don't see USC, UCLA, Az, Az St, Auburn, BYU or Boise St.

Az, Az St and Boise State are on that list

Well crap, I should have read it on a bigger screen than my iPhone 5 or a couple of more times. I stand corrected.

CUSA represented at #16 by.....Marshall.

(08-20-2015 05:53 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  so, who are the perennial Top25teams NOT on that list?

Stanford (of course)
BYU (no alcohol-related incidents there!)
UH (if you believe the hype)

Darn, another football list that Rice can't seem to crack the top 70 on!

CUSA however, is well represented by Marshall, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, North Texas, and USM sneaking in at the end.

And of the old SWC, only Rice, UH, and SMU are not on the list. I even included Arkansas, with Texas, A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, and TCU.

(08-20-2015 06:55 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(08-20-2015 05:53 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  so, who are the perennial Top25teams NOT on that list?

Stanford (of course)
BYU (no alcohol-related incidents there!)
UH (if you believe the hype)

I don't consider UH a perennial Top25 team, and BYU is marginal.


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ADJECTIVE
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So I take it you don't believe the hype.

So here is my question, do you think Houston Chronicle writer Brent Zwerneman ("On the Aggies") will bring this information to the powers that be at TAMU, ask for comments and write a column about A&M's horrendous football student athlete arrest rate? My guess is no.

(08-21-2015 01:48 PM)Kayjay Wrote:  So here is my question, do you think Houston Chronicle writer Brent Zwerneman ("On the Aggies") will bring this information to the powers that be at TAMU, ask for comments and write a column about A&M's horrendous football student athlete arrest rate? My guess is no.

Not so fast. Ohio State is 27 on the list and UH now have the Ohio State coaching. Lets keep an eye on them :)

(08-20-2015 07:11 PM)owl95 Wrote:  Darn, another football list that Rice can't seem to crack the top 70 on!

CUSA however, is well represented by Marshall, Middle Tennessee, Western Kentucky, North Texas, and USM sneaking in at the end.

And of the old SWC, only Rice, UH, and SMU are not on the list. I even included Arkansas, with Texas, A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, and TCU.

(08-20-2015 06:16 PM)greyowl72 Wrote:  CUSA represented at #16 by.....Marshall.

and UNT at #60 and Southern Miss lagging behind at #65

I have to wonder if some schools aren't saved by the fact that crimes may have been committed at other schools prior to enrollment at their current institution?

Well, this morning I received an answer to my previous question. The Chronicle's Brent Zwerneman has a front page article in the Houston Chronicle about the Aggies hiring a "Life Coach" to provide life skills beyond football, citing the number of player arrests that have occurred with the Football team during 2014 (http://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/hou...id=btfpm). My guess is that TAMU's PR department floated the story idea to get in front of the issue and spin it in a manner that minimizes the downside narrative of the number of player arrests at the university.

That is a smart move by Texas A&M and a reasonable angle for a writer to explore by Mr. Zwerneman. He did not shy away from mentioning the problems that the Aggies had with some of their recruits while noting the trend of this type of hire at many universities.