(07-25-2015 11:49 AM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(07-25-2015 11:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-25-2015 11:02 AM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  You are correct. But someone (with the initials BHO) would then have to admit that they are under enemy attacks.

He and/or his administration spokespersons have effectively already admitted that by justifying the failure to lower flags to half mast on the basis that we don't do it for military personnel killed in the line of duty.

Then if something bad happens to Obama, we won't lower the flags because he's Commander in Chief of the military.

You shouldn't even joke like that.

(07-25-2015 01:30 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  I've got no problem with sidearms at the recruiting station. Does anyone know when this stopped being the norm? I was told that it was H. W. that discontinued the practice. The person that said it prefaced it by saying something like, I am a conservative Republican but the truth is ........... I have no idea myself, but he seemed to know what he was talking about.

Bush 1 or Clinton I think, but I dont remember. Either way it was a bad decision.

(07-25-2015 07:51 PM)200yrs2late Wrote:  

(07-25-2015 01:30 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  I've got no problem with sidearms at the recruiting station. Does anyone know when this stopped being the norm? I was told that it was H. W. that discontinued the practice. The person that said it prefaced it by saying something like, I am a conservative Republican but the truth is ........... I have no idea myself, but he seemed to know what he was talking about.

Bush 1 or Clinton I think, but I dont remember. Either way it was a bad decision.

I agree.

I just wish the thousands of people who died daily from treatable diabetes, preventable heart disease, and dozens of other causes spurred this sort of debate and national attention instead of absolutely tragic, yet ultimately insignificant from a statistical perspective, incidents like this.

(07-26-2015 07:10 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I just wish the thousands of people who died daily from treatable diabetes, preventable heart disease, and dozens of other causes spurred this sort of debate and national attention instead of absolutely tragic, yet ultimately insignificant from a statistical perspective, incidents like this.

All lives matter. Is that what you mean?

(07-26-2015 07:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-26-2015 07:10 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I just wish the thousands of people who died daily from treatable diabetes, preventable heart disease, and dozens of other causes spurred this sort of debate and national attention instead of absolutely tragic, yet ultimately insignificant from a statistical perspective, incidents like this.

All lives matter. Is that what you mean?

Not really my point, but of course all lives matter. Literally no one is arguing otherwise.

(07-26-2015 07:10 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I just wish the thousands of people who died daily from treatable diabetes, preventable heart disease, and dozens of other causes spurred this sort of debate and national attention instead of absolutely tragic, yet ultimately insignificant from a statistical perspective, incidents like this.

You mean statistically insignificant like all mass shootings and like all deaths from "assault rifles"?

(07-26-2015 09:05 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-26-2015 07:10 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I just wish the thousands of people who died daily from treatable diabetes, preventable heart disease, and dozens of other causes spurred this sort of debate and national attention instead of absolutely tragic, yet ultimately insignificant from a statistical perspective, incidents like this.

You mean statistically insignificant like all mass shootings and like all deaths from "assault rifles"?

Absolutely.

(07-26-2015 07:48 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  

(07-26-2015 07:46 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-26-2015 07:10 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  I just wish the thousands of people who died daily from treatable diabetes, preventable heart disease, and dozens of other causes spurred this sort of debate and national attention instead of absolutely tragic, yet ultimately insignificant from a statistical perspective, incidents like this.

All lives matter. Is that what you mean?

Not really my point, but of course all lives matter. Literally no one is arguing otherwise.

Ohhhh, you wouldn't believe how wrong you are.

They are not booing because they think all lives do not matter, they are booing because he is tacitly ignoring the premise that African Americans as a whole have vastly different outcomes in regards to their safety, police interactions, and a whole host of other issues.

The hashtag should really be #blacklivesmattertoo but the 'too' is clearly implied in the phrase, through it's usage, and using common sense. Do you understand it now? Honest question, because I don't know if you just weren't aware or if you're just intentionally misrepresenting their argument in order to stop actual discussion into a topic you don't want to discuss.

No, the hashtag should really be #blacklivesmatterwhenwhitepeopleareinvolved.

These same jackasses will NEVER address the black on black crime epidemic. Just keep blaming whitey for their problems.

That's simply not true, but again, you're just trying to change the subject instead of actually discussing the issue they're raising.

Edit: how's this, name a public figure who you think fits that criteria.

(07-27-2015 03:29 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  No, the hashtag should really be #blacklivesmatterwhenwhitepeopleareinvolved.

These same jackasses will NEVER address the black on black crime epidemic. Just keep blaming whitey for their problems.

Quote:Most of the conversation surrounding crime involves black people, who selfishly take all of the credit for being criminals. Blacks are notorious for being called thugs and gangsters, but the real MVPs (Most Violent People) are whites. Everyday in cities across the country, people die at the hands of white people. What's more, they're killing their own kind. According to the US Department of Justice statistics, 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites. In 2011, there were more cases of whites killing whites than there were of blacks killing blacks. Between 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang-related murders were committed by white people, with a majority of the homicide victims being white as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-codd...71878.html

Carry on!

(07-27-2015 03:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 03:29 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  No, the hashtag should really be #blacklivesmatterwhenwhitepeopleareinvolved.

These same jackasses will NEVER address the black on black crime epidemic. Just keep blaming whitey for their problems.

Quote:Most of the conversation surrounding crime involves black people, who selfishly take all of the credit for being criminals. Blacks are notorious for being called thugs and gangsters, but the real MVPs (Most Violent People) are whites. Everyday in cities across the country, people die at the hands of white people. What's more, they're killing their own kind. According to the US Department of Justice statistics, 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites. In 2011, there were more cases of whites killing whites than there were of blacks killing blacks. Between 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang-related murders were committed by white people, with a majority of the homicide victims being white as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-codd...71878.html

Carry on!

Uhhh, you DO realize that blacks make up only 13% of the population, right???

(07-27-2015 03:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 03:29 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  No, the hashtag should really be #blacklivesmatterwhenwhitepeopleareinvolved.

These same jackasses will NEVER address the black on black crime epidemic. Just keep blaming whitey for their problems.

Quote:Most of the conversation surrounding crime involves black people, who selfishly take all of the credit for being criminals. Blacks are notorious for being called thugs and gangsters, but the real MVPs (Most Violent People) are whites. Everyday in cities across the country, people die at the hands of white people. What's more, they're killing their own kind. According to the US Department of Justice statistics, 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites. In 2011, there were more cases of whites killing whites than there were of blacks killing blacks. Between 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang-related murders were committed by white people, with a majority of the homicide victims being white as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-codd...71878.html

Carry on!

There is no demographic on the planet worse than sorry ass white people. That is pretty well documented. I did however notice cherry picked statistics of your post. Statistics are wonderful tools for deception. I congratulate you.

Redwingtom, those really don't help your argument, though then again the statistics regarding the percentage of blacks killed by other blacks which are thrown around here are pretty awful too. It should be expected that those who kill someone tend to kill someone of the same race considering the amount of familial-based violence and the fact that you tend to spend more time and have more interaction with those of your own race.

(07-27-2015 03:43 PM)geosnooker2000 Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 03:39 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-27-2015 03:29 PM)shiftyeagle Wrote:  No, the hashtag should really be #blacklivesmatterwhenwhitepeopleareinvolved.

These same jackasses will NEVER address the black on black crime epidemic. Just keep blaming whitey for their problems.

Quote:Most of the conversation surrounding crime involves black people, who selfishly take all of the credit for being criminals. Blacks are notorious for being called thugs and gangsters, but the real MVPs (Most Violent People) are whites. Everyday in cities across the country, people die at the hands of white people. What's more, they're killing their own kind. According to the US Department of Justice statistics, 84 percent of white people killed every year are killed by other whites. In 2011, there were more cases of whites killing whites than there were of blacks killing blacks. Between 1980 to 2008, a majority (53.3 percent) of gang-related murders were committed by white people, with a majority of the homicide victims being white as well.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kerry-codd...71878.html

Carry on!

Uhhh, you DO realize that blacks make up only 13% of the population, right???

So then they don't matter?

Fit, shut up.