(07-16-2015 01:15 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 01:04 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 11:13 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 09:27 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 09:00 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  Caitlyn Jenner is running for office now too? Geez. She's on TV as much as Trump. That's not really fair.

I don't know if she is running for office. I do know that she is not an athlete and did nothing to deserve a sports award for courage. Maybe Bruce Jenner could have won an espy if there was such a thing in the days when he was an athlete. Cheers!

I don't really care much about this, but this comment is just silly. Are you suggesting that Caitlyn Jenner and Bruce Jenner are two different people? Because if not, your comment about Caitlyn not being an athlete is pretty ridiculous. You can argue whether the award was deserved or not, however you cannot argue the athletic success of the person, and if they are qualified to be a sports personality.

my comment is silly huh? If the former Louisville football coach and revered Howard S. got a sex change in 2010, changed his name to Heather and won an espy for doing it....well you know how silly that is....don't be a contrarian just to be one. Cheers

This isn't about beignets a contrarian. His is calling you out for one of the most mind numb kingly stupid things ever quoted on this hoard. Absolutely moronic, unequivocally dumb statement. Calling you an idiot is not being contrarian: it's actually he majority opinion, and this is quite bold proof. Again deserving of the award is one thing. But you are literally trying to say these are two different people... Because of a name change. You cannot possibly say anything more stupid this year than that, high we know you will try as hard as you can.


On the other hand, maybe your idea has merit. Maybe now Cassius Clay can get in the boxing hall of fame as well. Maybe Lew Alcinder till get an invite to the NBA hall of fame. You know since they changed their names and are different people than Muhammad Ali and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.

I reread your personal attack on me and I'm curious about your quote, "He is calling you out for (being moronic, stupid, worst poster on the board, a belief held by the majority on here"...and on and on... Don't you mean YOU are calling me the idiot? Who's "he"? You got quite vicious with me. What's up with the personal attacks? Oh and btw, please don't talk to me like that again. PS. I don't care at all about Jenner, what he did or didn't do. Yes he or she or whatever you want me to refer to Jenner as is not my concern or issue. That ESPN gave someone an award for a sex change is one of my examples to how they've become a total non-sports reporting network. They are making news, not reporting. I won't bother debating your name change straw man arguments.

(07-16-2015 09:27 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 09:00 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 08:07 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Gave Caitlyn Jenner the Arthur Ashe courage award. Political PC hacks. I'm biased because I hate politics, but when I'm watching sports I expect that I'm watching sports. If I wanted to watch political shows I'd watch msnbc and fox. I'm very close to cutting cable. Cheers!

Caitlyn Jenner is running for office now too? Geez. She's on TV as much as Trump. That's not really fair.

I don't know if she is running for office. I do know that she is not an athlete and did nothing to deserve a sports award for courage. Maybe Bruce Jenner could have won an espy if there was such a thing in the days when he was an athlete. Cheers!

Please stop calling Bruce a she. It is a stunt to keep the ratings up for the Kardashian clan.

(07-16-2015 01:39 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I reread your personal attack on me and I'm curious about your quote, "He is calling you out for (being moronic, stupid, worst poster on the board, a belief held by the majority on here"...and on and on... Don't you mean YOU are calling me the idiot? Who's "he"? You got quite vicious with me. What's up with the personal attacks? Oh and btw, please don't talk to me like that again.

Go back and read again. You will see where the "personal attack" started. It was from you. I attacked your statement first. I then suggested you stop being ignorant because of how it makes you sound. There is nothing "personal" about calling a statement stupid. Especially when it is.

(07-16-2015 01:42 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 09:27 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I don't know if she is running for office. I do know that she is not an athlete and did nothing to deserve a sports award for courage. Maybe Bruce Jenner could have won an espy if there was such a thing in the days when he was an athlete. Cheers!

Please stop calling Bruce a she. It is a stunt to keep the ratings up for the Kardashian clan.

That would undermine his premise of them being two separate people

Stupid thread full of dangerously idiotic opinions.

Look, I couldn't give two shitts about the ESPY's (or any other awards show). I especially don't care who ESPN names as it's football player of the year, basseball player of the year, hockey player of the year, etc; or who should win the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. That's right up there on my Whogivesaahit List.

However, don't be an idiot. ESPN's "agenda" has nothing to do with politics at all. It has to do with ratings; which in turn equals money. That is literally all they care about.

They couldn't care less if people accept transgenders or homosexuals or blacks or Latinos, or women, or whomever. They only care that you watch their garbage awards show and clearly more people will tune in to watch some has been transgender athlete who just had a sex change or is contemplating one than they will some more deserving crippled girl of whom you've never heard.

This is what I called the FOX-ifixation of America. Anytime any media outlet does anything that you don't agree with, or are uncomfortable acknowledging, you just blanket condemn them as being evil and liberal. That is much easier than dealing with the uncomfortable reality a number of people who live amongst us are gay or transgender or in someway different than the vast majority of the rest of us.

Who cares if Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner got some stupid award from some made up program? Why on earth would that offend anyone? Whether that person - or the millions of others like her - identifies as a man or a woman or a Latino or a beagle doesn't have any impact on any of our lives and I have no idea why people would be offended by it? Frankly, it's somehow even more strange than a 60-some-year-old man who suddenly starts acting and dressing like a woman.

I'm not opposed to Jenner getting it because it's still pretty damned tough to be an outed transsexual in 2015. But Lauren Hill deserved it a lot more.

(07-16-2015 01:47 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Who cares if Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner got some stupid award from some made up program? Why on earth would that offend anyone? Whether that person - or the millions of others like her - identifies as a man or a woman or a Latino or a beagle doesn't have any impact on any of our lives and I have no idea why people would be offended by it? Frankly, it's somehow even more strange than a 60-some-year-old man who suddenly starts acting and dressing like a woman.

Agree with everything you said.

Although I will point out one thing. He didn't just start doing it. I don't have the time to look it up now, but I read a story about how Jenner got hooked up with the PR person who handled his coming out. Apparently it was someone he worked with 30 years ago when he was still an active athlete who saved him, because a reported had gotten wind of his activities, and this guy helped convince the reported to drop the story. So this has been going on for decades. I would assume at times he has hidden it, since it appears his wife, kid, and step kids didn't know about it.

But it sort of goes to the premise of my annoyance here. This is the same damn person. The only difference is the public is now finding out about it. Whatever, his life, not mine. Doesn't affect me. But the notion that a name change, or sex change, or lifestyle change, makes someone a completely different person is simply too stupid to ignore.

(07-16-2015 01:47 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Stupid thread full of dangerously idiotic opinions.

Look, I couldn't give two shitts about the ESPY's (or any other awards show). I especially don't care who ESPN names as it's football player of the year, basseball player of the year, hockey player of the year, etc; or who should win the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. That's right up there on my Whogivesaahit List.

However, don't be an idiot. ESPN's "agenda" has nothing to do with politics at all. It has to do with ratings; which in turn equals money. That is literally all they care about.

They couldn't care less if people accept transgenders or homosexuals or blacks or Latinos, or women, or whomever. They only care that you watch their garbage awards show and clearly more people will tune in to watch some has been transgender athlete who just had a sex change or is contemplating one than they will some more deserving crippled girl of whom you've never heard.

This is what I called the FOX-ifixation of America. Anytime any media outlet does anything that you don't agree with, or are uncomfortable acknowledging, you just blanket condemn them as being evil and liberal. That is much easier than dealing with the uncomfortable reality a number of people who live amongst us are gay or transgender or in someway different than the vast majority of the rest of us.

Who cares if Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner got some stupid award from some made up program? Why on earth would that offend anyone? Whether that person - or the millions of others like her - identifies as a man or a woman or a Latino or a beagle doesn't have any impact on any of our lives and I have no idea why people would be offended by it? Frankly, it's somehow even more strange than a 60-some-year-old man who suddenly starts acting and dressing like a woman.

I don't like politics. If I did I would watch fox news or MSNBC. Can't I watch a sports station and expect it to be about sports?? Am I expecting too much? If Catlain Jenner won an award for a sporting accomplishment great, but that's not what happened last night. I guess I'm making idiotic statements because I expect a 24 hour sports tv channel to stay on topic: Reporting the sporting events that have occurred, not making the news. If I wanted to debate politics with anyone...Neverminnd. Peace to all. I stand by my statement, "I hope ESPN rots"--for the MANY reasons I listed. Please read my entire post before personally attacking me.cheers

(07-16-2015 01:48 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  I'm not opposed to Jenner getting it because it's still pretty damned tough to be an outed transsexual in 2015. But Lauren Hill deserved it a lot more.

I agree about the spirit of it in that hers was a tougher fight. But I think there was probably a special honor separate that would have been more fitting. Only because if you read the definition of the award, Hill was never a big enough sports name to fit the criteria. She most certainly deserved an acknowledgement.

(07-16-2015 02:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I don't like politics. If I did I would watch fox news or MSNBC. Can't I watch a sports station and expect it to be about sports?? Am I expecting too much? If Catlain Jenner won an award for a sporting accomplishment great, but that's not what happened last night. I guess I'm making idiotic statements because I expect a 24 hour sports tv channel to stay on topic: Reporting the sporting events that have occurred, not making the news. If I wanted to debate politics with anyone...Neverminnd. Peace to all. I stand by my statement, "I hope ESPN rots"--for the MANY reasons I listed. Please read my entire post before personally attacking me.cheers

Here is the problem. YOU are the one making it about politics. You are trying to make a political statement that someone who had a name change (your original complaint) or a sec change is a different person. You made that comment, not us. First off, the award explicitly states it is not restricted to sports related people or actions. Says that in the description. Second, the winner was a freaking Olympic Medalists. How in the world is that not about sports? Do you understand why I keep mocking your posts. You are the one who is making the political statement that you say you don't want to talk about.

(07-16-2015 12:41 PM)krup Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 10:19 AM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 09:27 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 09:00 AM)jskwrite Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 08:07 AM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Gave Caitlyn Jenner the Arthur Ashe courage award. Political PC hacks. I'm biased because I hate politics, but when I'm watching sports I expect that I'm watching sports. If I wanted to watch political shows I'd watch msnbc and fox. I'm very close to cutting cable. Cheers!

Caitlyn Jenner is running for office now too? Geez. She's on TV as much as Trump. That's not really fair.

I don't know if she is running for office. I do know that she is not an athlete and did nothing to deserve a sports award for courage. Maybe Bruce Jenner could have won an espy if there was such a thing in the days when he was an athlete. Cheers!

This is a symptom of a much larger problem. Only a leftist organization would award Bruce Jenner a "sports award" for being a sexual deviant and spin it as "courageous".

Obviously there is an political agenda that led to ESPN singling out Jenner for praise.

In the big picture they just gave an award to someone for giving in to their body dysmorphia , a families of disorders that includes anorexia and apotemnaphilia (that condition where people want perfectly functional limbs amputated because they feel like the limb isn't part of their body). If an ex-female athlete starves herself down to 65 lbs is that an award clincher?

Why anyone gives two ***** about ESPN, the ESPY's and/or the award to Caitlyn Jenner is a mystery to me.

(07-16-2015 02:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 01:47 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Stupid thread full of dangerously idiotic opinions.

Look, I couldn't give two shitts about the ESPY's (or any other awards show). I especially don't care who ESPN names as it's football player of the year, basseball player of the year, hockey player of the year, etc; or who should win the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. That's right up there on my Whogivesaahit List.

However, don't be an idiot. ESPN's "agenda" has nothing to do with politics at all. It has to do with ratings; which in turn equals money. That is literally all they care about.

They couldn't care less if people accept transgenders or homosexuals or blacks or Latinos, or women, or whomever. They only care that you watch their garbage awards show and clearly more people will tune in to watch some has been transgender athlete who just had a sex change or is contemplating one than they will some more deserving crippled girl of whom you've never heard.

This is what I called the FOX-ifixation of America. Anytime any media outlet does anything that you don't agree with, or are uncomfortable acknowledging, you just blanket condemn them as being evil and liberal. That is much easier than dealing with the uncomfortable reality a number of people who live amongst us are gay or transgender or in someway different than the vast majority of the rest of us.

Who cares if Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner got some stupid award from some made up program? Why on earth would that offend anyone? Whether that person - or the millions of others like her - identifies as a man or a woman or a Latino or a beagle doesn't have any impact on any of our lives and I have no idea why people would be offended by it? Frankly, it's somehow even more strange than a 60-some-year-old man who suddenly starts acting and dressing like a woman.

I don't like politics. If I did I would watch fox news or MSNBC. Can't I watch a sports station and expect it to be about sports?? Am I expecting too much? If Catlain Jenner won an award for a sporting accomplishment great, but that's not what happened last night. I guess I'm making idiotic statements because I expect a 24 hour sports tv channel to stay on topic: Reporting the sporting events that have occurred, not making the news. If I wanted to debate politics with anyone...Neverminnd. Peace to all. I stand by my statement, "I hope ESPN rots"--for the MANY reasons I listed. Please read my entire post before personally attacking me.cheers

Don't forget what the "E" in "ESPN" stands for.

It ain't sports.

(07-16-2015 01:47 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Stupid thread full of dangerously idiotic opinions.

Look, I couldn't give two shitts about the ESPY's (or any other awards show). I especially don't care who ESPN names as it's football player of the year, basseball player of the year, hockey player of the year, etc; or who should win the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. That's right up there on my Whogivesaahit List.

However, don't be an idiot. ESPN's "agenda" has nothing to do with politics at all. It has to do with ratings; which in turn equals money. That is literally all they care about.

They couldn't care less if people accept transgenders or homosexuals or blacks or Latinos, or women, or whomever. They only care that you watch their garbage awards show and clearly more people will tune in to watch some has been transgender athlete who just had a sex change or is contemplating one than they will some more deserving crippled girl of whom you've never heard.

This is what I called the FOX-ifixation of America. Anytime any media outlet does anything that you don't agree with, or are uncomfortable acknowledging, you just blanket condemn them as being evil and liberal. That is much easier than dealing with the uncomfortable reality a number of people who live amongst us are gay or transgender or in someway different than the vast majority of the rest of us.

Who cares if Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner got some stupid award from some made up program? Why on earth would that offend anyone? Whether that person - or the millions of others like her - identifies as a man or a woman or a Latino or a beagle doesn't have any impact on any of our lives and I have no idea why people would be offended by it? Frankly, it's somehow even more strange than a 60-some-year-old man who suddenly starts acting and dressing like a woman.

I completely agree with the notion that ESPN did this for publicity/notoriety/ratings. I can't remember the last time I watched any of their programming that wasn't a direct game broadcast. Never mind their made-up awards show, anything they do these days (even SportsCenter, which supposedly would be pretty straightforward sports news coverage) is pretty much crap and self-promotion.

I also agree that aside from discussing ESPN's silly show, discussion of transgender/etc issues are probably best saved for the Spin Room. I will, however, nit-pick one thing in this post - the vilification of opposing political viewpoints (and those who hold them) is absolutely not limited to one side of the political spectrum. The election is a long way off and I'm already tired of all the nonsense coming from both sides. There is precious little interest in coming to any sort of understanding and/or compromise on any issue, just in defeating the "enemy".

(07-16-2015 02:04 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 02:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  I don't like politics. If I did I would watch fox news or MSNBC. Can't I watch a sports station and expect it to be about sports?? Am I expecting too much? If Catlain Jenner won an award for a sporting accomplishment great, but that's not what happened last night. I guess I'm making idiotic statements because I expect a 24 hour sports tv channel to stay on topic: Reporting the sporting events that have occurred, not making the news. If I wanted to debate politics with anyone...Neverminnd. Peace to all. I stand by my statement, "I hope ESPN rots"--for the MANY reasons I listed. Please read my entire post before personally attacking me.cheers

Here is the problem. YOU are the one making it about politics. You are trying to make a political statement that someone who had a name change (your original complaint) or a sec change is a different person. You made that comment, not us. First off, the award explicitly states it is not restricted to sports related people or actions. Says that in the description. Second, the winner was a freaking Olympic Medalists. How in the world is that not about sports? Do you understand why I keep mocking your posts. You are the one who is making the political statement that you say you don't want to talk about.

ok, im assuming your either upset because I don't like ESPN, or you're into politics and you think Im on the other side of you. I considerd last night political, another example of ESPN straying into politics...i PAY for ESPN to watch sports. Im not interested in politics, and fake news stations that are really just editorializing... This political stuff has been coming out of ESPN for too long now IMO and I don't like it. As far as the strawman Bruce Jenner/Caitlain are same person topic you keep hitting me with: Bruce/Caitlain is the same person. I obviously don't know about him or her (don't want to offend you with the wrong label) like you do. I'm not interested in knowing, but that's not a bad thing. God bless Jenner. I'm interested in sports, in fishing and going to the shooting range. I like watching sports and little else on tv. I don't know what in the world your nitpicking with me on? Why the horrible personal attack on me?

your claim that you're upset because ESPN is about sports and you don't like seeing things on ESPN that aren't about sports makes me think you've never watched ESPN before.

(07-16-2015 02:34 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  ok, im assuming your either upset because I don't like ESPN, or you're into politics and you think Im on the other side of you. I considerd last night political, another example of ESPN straying into politics...i PAY for ESPN to watch sports. Im not interested in politics, and fake news stations that are really just editorializing... This political stuff has been coming out of ESPN for too long now IMO and I don't like it. As far as the strawman Bruce Jenner/Caitlain are same person topic you keep hitting me with: Bruce/Caitlain is the same person. I obviously don't know about him or her (don't want to offend you with the wrong label) like you do. I'm not interested in knowing, but that's not a bad thing.

You need to stop assuming and pay attention. The VERY thing you are complaining about... is the very thing you are bringing to this. It is a political statement you are making in regards to transgender, that makes this political. Otherwise there is no complaint. You are complaining that this is not about sports, when we are discussing a former Olympic medalist wining an award on a sports channel for sports awards, that is based on off the field events that have a cultural impact. What the **** about that is political and non sports related? The only thing that makes it non-sports related, or political, is you ascertaining that Bruce and Caitlyn Jenner are two different people, and thus Caitlyn is not a sports person, which was the very comment you made that started this tyriad.. You don't get it: you are the person you have a problem with. The fact that you don't understand the irony here is troubling.

(07-16-2015 01:48 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  I'm not opposed to Jenner getting it because it's still pretty damned tough to be an outed transsexual in 2015. But Lauren Hill deserved it a lot more.

This.

(07-16-2015 02:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 01:47 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Stupid thread full of dangerously idiotic opinions.

Look, I couldn't give two shitts about the ESPY's (or any other awards show). I especially don't care who ESPN names as it's football player of the year, basseball player of the year, hockey player of the year, etc; or who should win the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. That's right up there on my Whogivesaahit List.

However, don't be an idiot. ESPN's "agenda" has nothing to do with politics at all. It has to do with ratings; which in turn equals money. That is literally all they care about.

They couldn't care less if people accept transgenders or homosexuals or blacks or Latinos, or women, or whomever. They only care that you watch their garbage awards show and clearly more people will tune in to watch some has been transgender athlete who just had a sex change or is contemplating one than they will some more deserving crippled girl of whom you've never heard.

This is what I called the FOX-ifixation of America. Anytime any media outlet does anything that you don't agree with, or are uncomfortable acknowledging, you just blanket condemn them as being evil and liberal. That is much easier than dealing with the uncomfortable reality a number of people who live amongst us are gay or transgender or in someway different than the vast majority of the rest of us.

Who cares if Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner got some stupid award from some made up program? Why on earth would that offend anyone? Whether that person - or the millions of others like her - identifies as a man or a woman or a Latino or a beagle doesn't have any impact on any of our lives and I have no idea why people would be offended by it? Frankly, it's somehow even more strange than a 60-some-year-old man who suddenly starts acting and dressing like a woman.

I don't like politics. If I did I would watch fox news or MSNBC. Can't I watch a sports station and expect it to be about sports?? Am I expecting too much? If Catlain Jenner won an award for a sporting accomplishment great, but that's not what happened last night. I guess I'm making idiotic statements because I expect a 24 hour sports tv channel to stay on topic: Reporting the sporting events that have occurred, not making the news. If I wanted to debate politics with anyone...Neverminnd. Peace to all. I stand by my statement, "I hope ESPN rots"--for the MANY reasons I listed. Please read my entire post before personally attacking me.cheers

Stuart Scott was not an athlete and cancer is not sports. Did you get this worked up over his award last year?

Also, your original post said "you heard about the award". In another post you say "can't I watch a show about sports.."

So did you watch it or not. If you didn't, how was your life adversely affected.

(07-16-2015 04:18 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 02:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 01:47 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Stupid thread full of dangerously idiotic opinions.

Look, I couldn't give two shitts about the ESPY's (or any other awards show). I especially don't care who ESPN names as it's football player of the year, basseball player of the year, hockey player of the year, etc; or who should win the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. That's right up there on my Whogivesaahit List.

However, don't be an idiot. ESPN's "agenda" has nothing to do with politics at all. It has to do with ratings; which in turn equals money. That is literally all they care about.

They couldn't care less if people accept transgenders or homosexuals or blacks or Latinos, or women, or whomever. They only care that you watch their garbage awards show and clearly more people will tune in to watch some has been transgender athlete who just had a sex change or is contemplating one than they will some more deserving crippled girl of whom you've never heard.

This is what I called the FOX-ifixation of America. Anytime any media outlet does anything that you don't agree with, or are uncomfortable acknowledging, you just blanket condemn them as being evil and liberal. That is much easier than dealing with the uncomfortable reality a number of people who live amongst us are gay or transgender or in someway different than the vast majority of the rest of us.

Who cares if Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner got some stupid award from some made up program? Why on earth would that offend anyone? Whether that person - or the millions of others like her - identifies as a man or a woman or a Latino or a beagle doesn't have any impact on any of our lives and I have no idea why people would be offended by it? Frankly, it's somehow even more strange than a 60-some-year-old man who suddenly starts acting and dressing like a woman.

I don't like politics. If I did I would watch fox news or MSNBC. Can't I watch a sports station and expect it to be about sports?? Am I expecting too much? If Catlain Jenner won an award for a sporting accomplishment great, but that's not what happened last night. I guess I'm making idiotic statements because I expect a 24 hour sports tv channel to stay on topic: Reporting the sporting events that have occurred, not making the news. If I wanted to debate politics with anyone...Neverminnd. Peace to all. I stand by my statement, "I hope ESPN rots"--for the MANY reasons I listed. Please read my entire post before personally attacking me.cheers

Stuart Scott was not an athlete and cancer is not sports. Did you get this worked up over his award last year?

Also, your original post said "you heard about the award". In another post you say "can't I watch a show about sports.."

So did you watch it or not. If you didn't, how was your life adversely affected.

Yes, and last night was the very first time I've ever watched ESPN. AdCorbet, why did you even bother replying to this? Why reply to threads started by what you said are written by me, "who the majority on here agree is the worst poster ever" "idiotic" and whatever else you said about me personally when responding to my thread. Let ESPN rot and two can play your game of insults. Free speech is beautiful, and freedom to have our own opinions is what this country is all about. I'll keep serving and saying what I want until I'm not allowed anymore. YOU won't stop me. Cheers!

Did anyone know that Caitlyn raced three seasons for Jack Roush in IMSA? Won at Portland too. ***** was fast.

(07-16-2015 02:01 PM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 01:48 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  I'm not opposed to Jenner getting it because it's still pretty damned tough to be an outed transsexual in 2015. But Lauren Hill deserved it a lot more.

I agree about the spirit of it in that hers was a tougher fight. But I think there was probably a special honor separate that would have been more fitting. Only because if you read the definition of the award, Hill was never a big enough sports name to fit the criteria. She most certainly deserved an acknowledgement.

Lauren Hill raised a million dollars for pediatric cancer research as a college freshman. While I have nothing against Jenner, Hill should have won this award.

(07-16-2015 04:18 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 02:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 01:47 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  Stupid thread full of dangerously idiotic opinions.

Look, I couldn't give two shitts about the ESPY's (or any other awards show). I especially don't care who ESPN names as it's football player of the year, basseball player of the year, hockey player of the year, etc; or who should win the Arthur Ashe Courage Award. That's right up there on my Whogivesaahit List.

However, don't be an idiot. ESPN's "agenda" has nothing to do with politics at all. It has to do with ratings; which in turn equals money. That is literally all they care about.

They couldn't care less if people accept transgenders or homosexuals or blacks or Latinos, or women, or whomever. They only care that you watch their garbage awards show and clearly more people will tune in to watch some has been transgender athlete who just had a sex change or is contemplating one than they will some more deserving crippled girl of whom you've never heard.

This is what I called the FOX-ifixation of America. Anytime any media outlet does anything that you don't agree with, or are uncomfortable acknowledging, you just blanket condemn them as being evil and liberal. That is much easier than dealing with the uncomfortable reality a number of people who live amongst us are gay or transgender or in someway different than the vast majority of the rest of us.

Who cares if Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner got some stupid award from some made up program? Why on earth would that offend anyone? Whether that person - or the millions of others like her - identifies as a man or a woman or a Latino or a beagle doesn't have any impact on any of our lives and I have no idea why people would be offended by it? Frankly, it's somehow even more strange than a 60-some-year-old man who suddenly starts acting and dressing like a woman.

I don't like politics. If I did I would watch fox news or MSNBC. Can't I watch a sports station and expect it to be about sports?? Am I expecting too much? If Catlain Jenner won an award for a sporting accomplishment great, but that's not what happened last night. I guess I'm making idiotic statements because I expect a 24 hour sports tv channel to stay on topic: Reporting the sporting events that have occurred, not making the news. If I wanted to debate politics with anyone...Neverminnd. Peace to all. I stand by my statement, "I hope ESPN rots"--for the MANY reasons I listed. Please read my entire post before personally attacking me.cheers

Stuart Scott was not an athlete and cancer is not sports. Did you get this worked up over his award last year?

Also, your original post said "you heard about the award". In another post you say "can't I watch a show about sports.."

So did you watch it or not. If you didn't, how was your life adversely affected.

you ask if "my life was adversely affected" because I wrote a thread on an opinion board. Nice. I could reply to a number of your posts with the glib "how does that affect you" reply. I hope you feel cool now. You really put me in my place.