I don't know.....every kid should have the opportunity to better him or herself.

(07-15-2015 07:11 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 06:11 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 05:35 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Once the family lawyer released that statement, true or not, then if I were the administration, I would have digged in and said 'let's get it on'. It's not about being vindictive or dissing out payback but I'm not going to to wimp out like they did. I would make sure that if he gets his release he's going have to go through the whole nine yards to get it through court.

So what would have happened to Austin while this dragged on in federal court as the season started? This could have opened up the university to additional provisions of the lawsuit if Austin could not play.

They already made the situation bad by appearing to hold a grudge and continuing with their stance would have been a public relations nightmare. Plus $$$.

The administration now has set precedent with other student athletes there and in the future. Whatever wrong Memphis may have done throughout the Nichols situation, they made it worst above all else by going limp at the end when the family threw out the garbage. Others will do the same or make that threat to get there way

How has the administration set a precedent? If anything they set one by releasing Pookie, Nick King, Iverson, Woodson, Magee, (ect) by granting their requests. You think there was any chance they would have blocked Iverson’s transfer? Did Tarik Black have to beg for his release? NO!

Of all of the recent releases for transfers Austin’s was the only one not initially granted. That’s asking for conflict. Stuff cuts BOTH ways and I’m sure future recruits and their families have taken notice. Rival coaches too.

Given that we know about the meeting that took place on June 22 (not disputable, Milner and the rest of you Pastner bottoms) and the fact that his initial transfer request was denied because Pastner "wanted to meet with him face to face", it's safe to assume Pastner was being petty and antagonistic about the situation once he learned that his best player was leaving for a team that bent him over and went balls deep in the tournament a couple of years ago. Everything that's happened the last 9 days is 100% Pastner's fault. No questions asked.

(07-16-2015 04:25 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 07:11 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 06:11 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(07-15-2015 05:35 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  Once the family lawyer released that statement, true or not, then if I were the administration, I would have digged in and said 'let's get it on'. It's not about being vindictive or dissing out payback but I'm not going to to wimp out like they did. I would make sure that if he gets his release he's going have to go through the whole nine yards to get it through court.

So what would have happened to Austin while this dragged on in federal court as the season started? This could have opened up the university to additional provisions of the lawsuit if Austin could not play.

They already made the situation bad by appearing to hold a grudge and continuing with their stance would have been a public relations nightmare. Plus $$$.

The administration now has set precedent with other student athletes there and in the future. Whatever wrong Memphis may have done throughout the Nichols situation, they made it worst above all else by going limp at the end when the family threw out the garbage. Others will do the same or make that threat to get there way

How has the administration set a precedent? If anything they set one by releasing Pookie, Nick King, Iverson, Woodson, Magee, (ect) by granting their requests. You think there was any chance they would have blocked Iverson’s transfer? Did Tarik Black have to beg for his release? NO!

Of all of the recent releases for transfers Austin’s was the only one not initially granted. That’s asking for conflict. Stuff cuts BOTH ways and I’m sure future recruits and their families have taken notice. Rival coaches too.

Cal's best power play here was making sure players could leave if they wanted to, and everyone, myself included, was miffed about it. Sounds like some are saying you should be able to do the same thing Xavier Henry and DeMarcus Boogie did as long as you play some games first.

Seems to me if you accept a scholarship, there should be some kind of disincentive to changing your mind. Don't know when or if there's a date when student athletes actually "resign," but if there is and it hasn't happened yet, Nichols should be able to skate. If it's already happened, he shouldn't have gotten a pass. That's my opinion, and you can take that and $4.50 and buy a cup of Panera coffee.

Brodricks Jones was just released by San Diego State, was offered by Memphis and will make a visit here in about 2 weeks. Should we NOT take a look at him?

Like I said it cuts both ways.

(07-16-2015 05:57 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Brodricks Jones was just released by San Diego State, was offered by Memphis and will make a visit here in about 2 weeks. Should we NOT take a look at him?

Like I said it cuts both ways.

No, getting players late is GOOD for our university. It's not the same at all.

(07-16-2015 06:30 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 05:57 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Brodricks Jones was just released by San Diego State, was offered by Memphis and will make a visit here in about 2 weeks. Should we NOT take a look at him?

Like I said it cuts both ways.

No, getting players late is GOOD for our university. It's not the same at all.

Jones also asked for a release late and according to what we’ve heard would be labeled by many here as a quitter.... just like some are calling Austin.

So should we try to land a player who has just quit on his team? Or do we consider a player a quitter ONLY if he decides to leave OUR program? Think about it.

Cuts both ways.

Fair points

(07-17-2015 12:18 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Fair points

LMAO

(07-17-2015 12:12 AM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 06:30 PM)MTigerBlue Wrote:  

(07-16-2015 05:57 PM)BealeStreetTiger Wrote:  Brodricks Jones was just released by San Diego State, was offered by Memphis and will make a visit here in about 2 weeks. Should we NOT take a look at him?

Like I said it cuts both ways.

No, getting players late is GOOD for our university. It's not the same at all.

Jones also asked for a release late and according to what we’ve heard would be labeled by many here as a quitter.... just like some a calling Austin.

So should we try to land a player who has just quit on his team? Or do we consider a player a quitter ONLY if he decides to leave OUR program? Think about it.

Cuts both ways.

We have entertaining fans that think that Drew Barham, Antonio Barton, Tre'Von Willis, Hashim Bailey and Damien Wilson leaving are the same as AN, Black or Scooter leaving.

Take a wild who agrees with him above this post. What a shock.

Ah, all clear now, Stammy.

If they can really help us but they transfer, they are pieces of shtt.

If they prob wouldn't have played a major role, then hasta la vista.

Here I thought it was all about the kids.

(07-17-2015 06:58 AM)HoopDreams Wrote:  Ah, all clear now, Stammy.

If they can really help us but they transfer, they are pieces of shtt.

If they prob wouldn't have played a major role, then hasta la vista.

Here I thought it was all about the kids.

Even you don't honestly believe that is the argument. Impossible.

I have a problem with the word 'messy'. Pictures of ****** diapers come to mind every freaking time I see the word. Next comes an olfactory memory.

When I visit the ORG, I expect uplifting images that evoke better smells. OK..my bad. Carry on.