(09-29-2015 04:27 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 01:53 PM)WIowl Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 10:53 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  The AAC is an inferior product

Yea, they had a team recently win the men's AND women's national basketball championship. So inferior.

And a BCS win in 2013...actually Jan 1st 2014. C-Usa is still a decent league that can propell some members like ODU, Charlotte, UTSA, North Texas, etc up.

Up to what? P5?

(09-29-2015 09:29 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Chuckie Boy just got banned from all practices because of his last article on Devon Johnson. He is now banned from all practices, has no access to coaches or players and has no credible sources talking to him. Its time for the HD to reassign him to the MEC or better yet "Fire Him".

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

(07-09-2015 04:30 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 02:04 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  I wish this could be a conference:

UAB
Middle Tenn
USM
La Tech
Tulane
Houston
Rice
UTSA
North Texas
Tulsa
SMU
UTEP

Under the current theory regarding media markets, Rice & Houston and North Texas & SMU cannot be in the same conferences. Redundancies within media markets probably wouldn't make sense financially.

Tell that to DUKE, UNC, WAKE, and NCST

Actually the markets theory is flawed. It really about saturation. If a conference can had two teams in a major city publicly battling for the cities affection, there is just more to write about. I think rivalries and the buildup that surrounds them is very important to growth of a small conference.

(09-30-2015 07:19 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  

(09-29-2015 09:29 PM)HerdZoned Wrote:  Chuckie Boy just got banned from all practices because of his last article on Devon Johnson. He is now banned from all practices, has no access to coaches or players and has no credible sources talking to him. Its time for the HD to reassign him to the MEC or better yet "Fire Him".

Couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

if true, it won't be the first time Doc has banned him. Chuck Landon is a tool.

A good friend of mine is a retired journalist. We both knew Landon from our Marshall days, where my friend worked with him on the Parthenon (MU Student Paper). I told him how I felt about Landon (not very glowing) and he reminded me that he's not a beat a reporter, but a columnist...paid to get reactions. I still don't care. Landon is a tool. I ignore him every chance I get. I honestly don't know why the Herald Dispatch keeps him around.

(09-30-2015 04:05 PM)Cnelson203 Wrote:  if true, it won't be the first time Doc has banned him. Chuck Landon is a tool.

A good friend of mine is a retired journalist. We both knew Landon from our Marshall days, where my friend worked with him on the Parthenon (MU Student Paper). I told him how I felt about Landon (not very glowing) and he reminded me that he's not a beat a reporter, but a columnist...paid to get reactions. I still don't care. Landon is a tool. I ignore him every chance I get. I honestly don't know why the Herald Dispatch keeps him around.

I haven't read the HD since a week before the Military Bowl. When Chuckie crapped all over Doc and the team. I know its never going to happen but the HD needs to reassign him.

I know Marshall fans are totally in love with the guy (kidding) but I met the guy a few months ago and was less than impressed

(09-30-2015 08:35 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 04:30 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 02:04 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  I wish this could be a conference:

UAB
Middle Tenn
USM
La Tech
Tulane
Houston
Rice
UTSA
North Texas
Tulsa
SMU
UTEP

Under the current theory regarding media markets, Rice & Houston and North Texas & SMU cannot be in the same conferences. Redundancies within media markets probably wouldn't make sense financially.

Tell that to DUKE, UNC, WAKE, and NCST

Markey arguments only pertain to a school that is desired to keep out of a league. Other wise tulane wouldnt be in any league. big market? yes, but they dont carry it.

(09-30-2015 08:35 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 04:30 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 02:04 PM)T_Won1 Wrote:  I wish this could be a conference:

UAB
Middle Tenn
USM
La Tech
Tulane
Houston
Rice
UTSA
North Texas
Tulsa
SMU
UTEP

Under the current theory regarding media markets, Rice & Houston and North Texas & SMU cannot be in the same conferences. Redundancies within media markets probably wouldn't make sense financially.

Tell that to DUKE, UNC, WAKE, and NCST

No such thing as a media market when the ACC was formed in 1953.

Media markets are so stupid. What's more likely to get higher ratings? Two teams in a full, loud stadium in a Huntington, Greenville, Athens, etc. Or teams playing in a big stadium with 7,000 fans golf clapping in Atlanta, Dallas, LA, wherever.

Give me a conference full of teams with passionate fans and full stadiums in the middle of nowhere over "media markets" and no fans.

(07-09-2015 12:43 PM)isidnirb Wrote:  

(07-09-2015 10:53 AM)Afflicted Wrote:  The AAC is an inferior product

Rice wouldn't even say goodbye to CUSA if given the chance to go to the AAC.

Completely disagree with this.

We actually have a unique profile that would make movement to the AAC/MWC a logical fit ... given our academic ties/history with the AAC privates and our history with many of the MWC schools (albeit contentious at times).

We probably deserved being left behind with the recent moves but have FINALLY pulled together a cohesive business plan to catch up. We shall see.

(10-01-2015 07:55 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Media markets are so stupid. What's more likely to get higher ratings? Two teams in a full, loud stadium in a Huntington, Greenville, Athens, etc. Or teams playing in a big stadium with 7,000 fans golf clapping in Atlanta, Dallas, LA, wherever.

Give me a conference full of teams with passionate fans and full stadiums in the middle of nowhere over "media markets" and no fans.

I get your point ... but, in many instances, CFB (and for that matter NFL) stadiums are becoming glorified TV studios.

(10-01-2015 11:11 AM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 07:55 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Media markets are so stupid. What's more likely to get higher ratings? Two teams in a full, loud stadium in a Huntington, Greenville, Athens, etc. Or teams playing in a big stadium with 7,000 fans golf clapping in Atlanta, Dallas, LA, wherever.

Give me a conference full of teams with passionate fans and full stadiums in the middle of nowhere over "media markets" and no fans.

I get your point ... but, in many instances, CFB (and for that matter NFL) stadiums are becoming glorified TV studios.

And you believe any of us can actually compete? I will answer it for you.....NO!
Right now, whether you, I or anyone else like it, we are all falling behind. AAC will more than likely never be anymore desirable to the "glorified TV studios" than CUSA or any other entity outside of the P5. Time for the big boys to move on and it will not include ANY OF US.

I like Landon. I don't agree with him all of the time, but he is a columnist. It is his job to stir up the pot and to get people to form an opinion. A lot of the time he will write things that fans wearing green-glasses don't want to hear. I have no problem with that.

(10-01-2015 11:32 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  I like Landon. I don't agree with him all of the time, but he is a columnist. It is his job to stir up the pot and to get people to form an opinion. A lot of the time he will write things that fans wearing green-glasses don't want to hear. I have no problem with that.

The problem is he often says things that just aren't true. Getting people to form an opinion based on inaccuracies isn't really helpful. It just creates a portion of the fan base that continues to spout off things that aren't true.

No, you're right about that. And that is the part of what I don't agree with him about,,

(10-01-2015 11:24 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 11:11 AM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 07:55 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Media markets are so stupid. What's more likely to get higher ratings? Two teams in a full, loud stadium in a Huntington, Greenville, Athens, etc. Or teams playing in a big stadium with 7,000 fans golf clapping in Atlanta, Dallas, LA, wherever.

Give me a conference full of teams with passionate fans and full stadiums in the middle of nowhere over "media markets" and no fans.

I get your point ... but, in many instances, CFB (and for that matter NFL) stadiums are becoming glorified TV studios.

And you believe any of us can actually compete? I will answer it for you.....NO!
Right now, whether you, I or anyone else like it, we are all falling behind. AAC will more than likely never be anymore desirable to the "glorified TV studios" than CUSA or any other entity outside of the P5. Time for the big boys to move on and it will not include ANY OF US.

Not sure if I agree. ESPN has clearly seen some value in the AAC and have provided the conference with P5 exposure and G5 money. Ratings for the top of the AAC both in basketball and football have been very good and close to many of the P5 leagues.

I think the AAC is in the process of pulling a way a bit from the other G5, mainly due to taking programs that have money and winning backgrounds as well as the exposure ESPN has given them.

Last Saturday for example, ECU played Va Tech on ABC. Granted the majority of the country saw Ohio State on ABC, but the majority of the East Coast( the most important coast for money and ratings) saw ECU at 4 in the afternoon on Saturday. Not only that, the game was marketed as an AAC game, not an ACC game. This meant the AAC logo was shown during the game, not the ACC's. In truth, ECU never received coverage like this while in CUSA.

I have no idea what happens going forward for any of the G5 leagues. I do think however, that there are going to be winners and losers. In the end this is bad for football and sports, but it is what it is.

(10-01-2015 01:01 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 11:24 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 11:11 AM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 07:55 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Media markets are so stupid. What's more likely to get higher ratings? Two teams in a full, loud stadium in a Huntington, Greenville, Athens, etc. Or teams playing in a big stadium with 7,000 fans golf clapping in Atlanta, Dallas, LA, wherever.

Give me a conference full of teams with passionate fans and full stadiums in the middle of nowhere over "media markets" and no fans.

I get your point ... but, in many instances, CFB (and for that matter NFL) stadiums are becoming glorified TV studios.

And you believe any of us can actually compete? I will answer it for you.....NO!
Right now, whether you, I or anyone else like it, we are all falling behind. AAC will more than likely never be anymore desirable to the "glorified TV studios" than CUSA or any other entity outside of the P5. Time for the big boys to move on and it will not include ANY OF US.

Not sure if I agree. ESPN has clearly seen some value in the AAC and have provided the conference with P5 exposure and G5 money. Ratings for the top of the AAC both in basketball and football have been very good and close to many of the P5 leagues.

I think the AAC is in the process of pulling a way a bit from the other G5, mainly due to taking programs that have money and winning backgrounds as well as the exposure ESPN has given them.

Last Saturday for example, ECU played Va Tech on ABC. Granted the majority of the country saw Ohio State on ABC, but the majority of the East Coast( the most important coast for money and ratings) saw ECU at 4 in the afternoon on Saturday. Not only that, the game was marketed as an AAC game, not an ACC game. This meant the AAC logo was shown during the game, not the ACC's. In truth, ECU never received coverage like this while in CUSA.

I have no idea what happens going forward for any of the G5 leagues. I do think however, that there are going to be winners and losers. In the end this is bad for football and sports, but it is what it is.

After a few years to see how things have shaken out, near-zero TV revenue, bowl games people care even less about, obscurity level one could have only imagined a few short years ago, etc.. etc...I think any of us would leave if/when/as soon as we could.

Damn this is a blast from the past

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(06-05-2019 12:05 PM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 01:01 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 11:24 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 11:11 AM)Orange County Owl Wrote:  

(10-01-2015 07:55 AM)MUsince96 Wrote:  Media markets are so stupid. What's more likely to get higher ratings? Two teams in a full, loud stadium in a Huntington, Greenville, Athens, etc. Or teams playing in a big stadium with 7,000 fans golf clapping in Atlanta, Dallas, LA, wherever.

Give me a conference full of teams with passionate fans and full stadiums in the middle of nowhere over "media markets" and no fans.

I get your point ... but, in many instances, CFB (and for that matter NFL) stadiums are becoming glorified TV studios.

And you believe any of us can actually compete? I will answer it for you.....NO!
Right now, whether you, I or anyone else like it, we are all falling behind. AAC will more than likely never be anymore desirable to the "glorified TV studios" than CUSA or any other entity outside of the P5. Time for the big boys to move on and it will not include ANY OF US.

Not sure if I agree. ESPN has clearly seen some value in the AAC and have provided the conference with P5 exposure and G5 money. Ratings for the top of the AAC both in basketball and football have been very good and close to many of the P5 leagues.

I think the AAC is in the process of pulling a way a bit from the other G5, mainly due to taking programs that have money and winning backgrounds as well as the exposure ESPN has given them.

Last Saturday for example, ECU played Va Tech on ABC. Granted the majority of the country saw Ohio State on ABC, but the majority of the East Coast( the most important coast for money and ratings) saw ECU at 4 in the afternoon on Saturday. Not only that, the game was marketed as an AAC game, not an ACC game. This meant the AAC logo was shown during the game, not the ACC's. In truth, ECU never received coverage like this while in CUSA.

I have no idea what happens going forward for any of the G5 leagues. I do think however, that there are going to be winners and losers. In the end this is bad for football and sports, but it is what it is.

After a few years to see how things have shaken out, near-zero TV revenue, bowl games people care even less about, obscurity level one could have only imagined a few short years ago, etc.. etc...I think any of us would leave if/when/as soon as we could.

For the American (or perhaps the MWC for you Texas teams)? Sure. For the Sun Belt or MAC? What's the point? Plus if things are truly that bad, there's always FBS independence. But if you're not a national brand, is that really viable right now?