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Ending the feud? Birmingham City Council members, UAB President Ray Watts set to meet today

http://www.al.com/news/birmingham/index....m_cit.html

Over and under on questions he does not answer?

Good for Austin not accepting token meetings with Watts lackeys.

I would think the Council wants reassurances about undergraduate programs rumored to be on a chopping block. A vibrant and growing UAB is dependent upon an expansion of undergraduate offerings in the future. It is the BOT's FEAR of such growth that drove the killing of the school's athletic programs in Dec. No one has been assured that the FB program was the only objective of the crimson centric BOT.

I'm sure the main topic will be to negotiate a final settlement for the Legion Field certificate holders whose rights have been constantly trampled.

(06-29-2015 02:54 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I'm sure the main topic will be to negotiate a final settlement for the Legion Field certificate holders whose rights have been constantly trampled.

WHEN will their posthumous reign of terror on UAB's sale of football tickets END?

I wish pumpkinhead would choke on that damn blue water bottle

(06-29-2015 03:29 PM)TPBlaze84 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 02:54 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I'm sure the main topic will be to negotiate a final settlement for the Legion Field certificate holders whose rights have been constantly trampled.

WHEN will their posthumous reign of terror on UAB's sale of football tickets END?

While the original owners are probably long dead, the certificates themselves were gradually consolidated by secondary purchases and/or inheritance and are very much alive legally. The Park Board said in their letter that about 1600 persons or businesses now owned the 2,500+ SCs which are legally binding on the city in perpetuity for all Legion Field football games. Apparently, few of that 1600 care a lot about UAB football, the Classic or the bowl game. I only know of two who regularly attend UAB games.

(06-29-2015 10:20 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 03:29 PM)TPBlaze84 Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 02:54 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I'm sure the main topic will be to negotiate a final settlement for the Legion Field certificate holders whose rights have been constantly trampled.

WHEN will their posthumous reign of terror on UAB's sale of football tickets END?

While the original owners are probably long dead, the certificates themselves were gradually consolidated by secondary purchases and/or inheritance and are very much alive legally. The Park Board said in their letter that about 1600 persons or businesses now owned the 2,500+ SCs which are legally binding on the city in perpetuity for all Legion Field football games. Apparently, few of that 1600 care a lot about UAB football, the Classic or the bowl game. I only know of two who regularly attend UAB games.

How does the Rule against Perpetuities in will or deed affect the stadium certificates? Are they considered real property since the owner has the seat for every purpose indefinitely? Or are they chattel? Please explain this more.

Damn you.

(06-30-2015 06:50 AM)Smaug Wrote:  Damn you.

(06-29-2015 02:23 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  I would think the Council wants reassurances about undergraduate programs rumored to be on a chopping block. A vibrant and growing UAB is dependent upon an expansion of undergraduate offerings in the future. It is the BOT's FEAR of such growth that drove the killing of the school's athletic programs in Dec. No one has been assured that the FB program was the only objective of the crimson centric BOT.

(06-29-2015 02:54 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I'm sure the main topic will be to negotiate a final settlement for the Legion Field certificate holders whose rights have been constantly trampled.

(06-29-2015 10:20 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 03:29 PM)TPBlaze84 Wrote:  

WHEN will their posthumous reign of terror on UAB's sale of football tickets END?

While the original owners are probably long dead, the certificates themselves were gradually consolidated by secondary purchases and/or inheritance and are very much alive legally. The Park Board said in their letter that about 1600 persons or businesses now owned the 2,500+ SCs which are legally binding on the city in perpetuity for all Legion Field football games. Apparently, few of that 1600 care a lot about UAB football, the Classic or the bowl game. I only know of two who regularly attend UAB games.

I assume that these are not separate unrelated instances in the grand scheme. Have the BOTs bought up the 1600 certificates so that our current students will now all quit UAB because the best seats are denied them - complete the BOT plot

http://www.abc3340.com/story/29436388/wa...artnership

(07-01-2015 10:49 AM)hooverblazer Wrote:  http://www.abc3340.com/story/29436388/wa...artnership

Quote:"Council members took a guided tour of the university Monday with UAB President Ray Watts."

I swear I thought that said "guarded tour" when I read it the first couple of times.

The only time there has been less IQ per capita in a group was when Neal Callaway and Mike Dubose met for lunch.

(06-30-2015 10:03 PM)uabbean Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 02:23 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  I would think the Council wants reassurances about undergraduate programs rumored to be on a chopping block. A vibrant and growing UAB is dependent upon an expansion of undergraduate offerings in the future. It is the BOT's FEAR of such growth that drove the killing of the school's athletic programs in Dec. No one has been assured that the FB program was the only objective of the crimson centric BOT.

(06-29-2015 02:54 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I'm sure the main topic will be to negotiate a final settlement for the Legion Field certificate holders whose rights have been constantly trampled.

(06-29-2015 10:20 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 03:29 PM)TPBlaze84 Wrote:  

WHEN will their posthumous reign of terror on UAB's sale of football tickets END?

While the original owners are probably long dead, the certificates themselves were gradually consolidated by secondary purchases and/or inheritance and are very much alive legally. The Park Board said in their letter that about 1600 persons or businesses now owned the 2,500+ SCs which are legally binding on the city in perpetuity for all Legion Field football games. Apparently, few of that 1600 care a lot about UAB football, the Classic or the bowl game. I only know of two who regularly attend UAB games.

I assume that these are not separate unrelated instances in the grand scheme. Have the BOTs bought up the 1600 certificates so that our current students will now all quit UAB because the best seats are denied them - complete the BOT plot

One of the reported principal secondary purchasers of SCs during the time they were most valuable was the metro area Coca-Cola boss, and you know who his "great pair" friend (and his heir) was. Is it possible these folks were also into financing the "RAPS" movement back in 1998 in part to protect their investments in Legion Field? (every 100 SCs @ $3,000 each - 1970's money - equals $300,000.)

(07-02-2015 12:31 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 10:03 PM)uabbean Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 02:23 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  I would think the Council wants reassurances about undergraduate programs rumored to be on a chopping block. A vibrant and growing UAB is dependent upon an expansion of undergraduate offerings in the future. It is the BOT's FEAR of such growth that drove the killing of the school's athletic programs in Dec. No one has been assured that the FB program was the only objective of the crimson centric BOT.

(06-29-2015 02:54 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I'm sure the main topic will be to negotiate a final settlement for the Legion Field certificate holders whose rights have been constantly trampled.

(06-29-2015 10:20 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 03:29 PM)TPBlaze84 Wrote:  

WHEN will their posthumous reign of terror on UAB's sale of football tickets END?

While the original owners are probably long dead, the certificates themselves were gradually consolidated by secondary purchases and/or inheritance and are very much alive legally. The Park Board said in their letter that about 1600 persons or businesses now owned the 2,500+ SCs which are legally binding on the city in perpetuity for all Legion Field football games. Apparently, few of that 1600 care a lot about UAB football, the Classic or the bowl game. I only know of two who regularly attend UAB games.

I assume that these are not separate unrelated instances in the grand scheme. Have the BOTs bought up the 1600 certificates so that our current students will now all quit UAB because the best seats are denied them - complete the BOT plot

One of the reported principal secondary purchasers of SCs during the time they were most valuable was the metro area Coca-Cola boss, and you know who his "great pair" friend (and his heir) was. Is it possible these folks were also into financing the "RAPS" movement back in 1998 in part to protect their investments in Legion Field? (every 100 SCs @ $3,000 each - 1970's money - equals $300,000.)

You are the only person concerned about these stupid stadium certificates. Somebody literally posted a picture of his seats in the area you can't have seats and stated those were the seats on his season tickets. Yet, that isn't enough. Nobody cares about the damn stadium certificates, can you please just drop it?

Also, why is great pair quoted? I'm confused. Are you quoting somebody?

(07-02-2015 01:00 PM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(07-02-2015 12:31 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

(06-30-2015 10:03 PM)uabbean Wrote:  

(06-29-2015 02:23 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  I would think the Council wants reassurances about undergraduate programs rumored to be on a chopping block. A vibrant and growing UAB is dependent upon an expansion of undergraduate offerings in the future. It is the BOT's FEAR of such growth that drove the killing of the school's athletic programs in Dec. No one has been assured that the FB program was the only objective of the crimson centric BOT.

(06-29-2015 02:54 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  I'm sure the main topic will be to negotiate a final settlement for the Legion Field certificate holders whose rights have been constantly trampled.

(06-29-2015 10:20 PM)BAMANBLAZERFAN Wrote:  

WHEN will their posthumous reign of terror on UAB's sale of football tickets END?

While the original owners are probably long dead, the certificates themselves were gradually consolidated by secondary purchases and/or inheritance and are very much alive legally. The Park Board said in their letter that about 1600 persons or businesses now owned the 2,500+ SCs which are legally binding on the city in perpetuity for all Legion Field football games. Apparently, few of that 1600 care a lot about UAB football, the Classic or the bowl game. I only know of two who regularly attend UAB games.

I assume that these are not separate unrelated instances in the grand scheme. Have the BOTs bought up the 1600 certificates so that our current students will now all quit UAB because the best seats are denied them - complete the BOT plot

One of the reported principal secondary purchasers of SCs during the time they were most valuable was the metro area Coca-Cola boss, and you know who his "great pair" friend (and his heir) was. Is it possible these folks were also into financing the "RAPS" movement back in 1998 in part to protect their investments in Legion Field? (every 100 SCs @ $3,000 each - 1970's money - equals $300,000.)

You are the only person concerned about these stupid stadium certificates. Somebody literally posted a picture of his seats in the area you can't have seats and stated those were the seats on his season tickets. Yet, that isn't enough. Nobody cares about the damn stadium certificates, can you please just drop it?

Also, why is great pair quoted? I'm confused. Are you quoting somebody?

You may be correct that I am the only one concerned about those SCs, but the FACT is that they are still perpetually valid legal contracts between their owners and the city. The possibility that UAB illegally sold such seats in violation of that contract because they could, does not diminish their status. "Nobody cares", while perhaps true, is not a legal defense of anyone's actions that violates any legal contract.

The "great pair" quote was in answer to the question about any possible link between the SCs (with many hundreds said to have been bought up by the Crawford Johnson family/ central Alabama Coca Cola bottling monopoly) and the BOT leadership. I suggested that there might be one.