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RE: Football Class of 2019
(08-10-2018 12:42 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 09:33 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 08:57 AM)Banter Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 08:34 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  Bill Greene, of 247, has put in a CB for a stud ILB for the good guys

https://247sports.com/Player/Jamir-Thomas-89910


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It shows him as a 37% for Ohio State, does this mean the powers that be on 24/7 don't think he is a take for them, and will likely choose UC. I don't really understand how that works.

That's a percentage of people who have picked him to go to OSU and UC. So he has 3 total people predicting where he will pick for college, 2 people predict UC, 1 predicts OSU.

Per 247, he doesn't have an OSU offer yet.

Just to be clear that doesn't matter. The Crystal Ball tool on 247 is just a prognostication by recruiting analysts on the site. There are some analysts that don't put in a pick until they know for certain, and then there are others who game it up by putting in Crystal Ball's to a school they follow (there are a couple that follow UK that are notorious for this).

Frankly, I don't put a lot of stock into the Crystal Ball's themselves on face value, but I do value the opinions of certain analysts-- especially when they post about their rationale for making their pick.
 
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RE: Football Class of 2019
(08-10-2018 12:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 12:42 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 09:33 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 08:57 AM)Banter Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 08:34 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  Bill Greene, of 247, has put in a CB for a stud ILB for the good guys

https://247sports.com/Player/Jamir-Thomas-89910


mc

It shows him as a 37% for Ohio State, does this mean the powers that be on 24/7 don't think he is a take for them, and will likely choose UC. I don't really understand how that works.

That's a percentage of people who have picked him to go to OSU and UC. So he has 3 total people predicting where he will pick for college, 2 people predict UC, 1 predicts OSU.

Per 247, he doesn't have an OSU offer yet.

Just to be clear that doesn't matter. The Crystal Ball tool on 247 is just a prognostication by recruiting analysts on the site. There are some analysts that don't put in a pick until they know for certain, and then there are others who game it up by putting in Crystal Ball's to a school they follow (there are a couple that follow UK that are notorious for this).

Frankly, I don't put a lot of stock into the Crystal Ball's themselves on face value, but I do value the opinions of certain analysts-- especially when they post about their rationale for making their pick.

So, just to understand, is Bill Greene one of these analysts you trust? How about Demetric Warren from varsitypreps (also a UC CB) and Andrew Ellis from 11 Warriors (the OSU CB)? My brother is an OSU alum and huge, but reasonable, buckeye fan and he loves 11 Warriors.
 
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RE: Football Class of 2019
(08-10-2018 09:33 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 08:57 AM)Banter Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 08:34 AM)marcuscan Wrote:  Bill Greene, of 247, has put in a CB for a stud ILB for the good guys

https://247sports.com/Player/Jamir-Thomas-89910


mc

It shows him as a 37% for Ohio State, does this mean the powers that be on 24/7 don't think he is a take for them, and will likely choose UC. I don't really understand how that works.

That's a percentage of people who have picked him to go to OSU and UC. So he has 3 total people predicting where he will pick for college, 2 people predict UC, 1 predicts OSU.

I'm guessing the "37%" was a typo because it's now 67% which jives with the T shirt's reply. Thomas looks like he'd be an outstanding get for us and is a very solid possibility unless something falls through with OSU current plans and they offer.
 
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RE: Football Class of 2019
(08-11-2018 07:38 AM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 12:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 12:42 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 09:33 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 08:57 AM)Banter Wrote:  It shows him as a 37% for Ohio State, does this mean the powers that be on 24/7 don't think he is a take for them, and will likely choose UC. I don't really understand how that works.

That's a percentage of people who have picked him to go to OSU and UC. So he has 3 total people predicting where he will pick for college, 2 people predict UC, 1 predicts OSU.

Per 247, he doesn't have an OSU offer yet.

Just to be clear that doesn't matter. The Crystal Ball tool on 247 is just a prognostication by recruiting analysts on the site. There are some analysts that don't put in a pick until they know for certain, and then there are others who game it up by putting in Crystal Ball's to a school they follow (there are a couple that follow UK that are notorious for this).

Frankly, I don't put a lot of stock into the Crystal Ball's themselves on face value, but I do value the opinions of certain analysts-- especially when they post about their rationale for making their pick.

So, just to understand, is Bill Greene one of these analysts you trust? How about Demetric Warren from varsitypreps (also a UC CB) and Andrew Ellis from 11 Warriors (the OSU CB)? My brother is an OSU alum and huge, but reasonable, buckeye fan and he loves 11 Warriors.

I tend to put more stock into the picks by guys who cover regions as opposed to particular team staff members. Staff guys tend to be more biased. However, there are exceptions to the rule on both sides. I like Bill- if you are a member of BCJ you would understand why.

As I posted above, the Crystal Ball tool is nice, but I do not consider it gospel. Sometimes it’s dead on, other times it is wild speculation. What’s more, these kids change their minds several times.
 
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RE: Football Class of 2019
(08-11-2018 10:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(08-11-2018 07:38 AM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 12:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 12:42 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 09:33 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  That's a percentage of people who have picked him to go to OSU and UC. So he has 3 total people predicting where he will pick for college, 2 people predict UC, 1 predicts OSU.

Per 247, he doesn't have an OSU offer yet.

Just to be clear that doesn't matter. The Crystal Ball tool on 247 is just a prognostication by recruiting analysts on the site. There are some analysts that don't put in a pick until they know for certain, and then there are others who game it up by putting in Crystal Ball's to a school they follow (there are a couple that follow UK that are notorious for this).

Frankly, I don't put a lot of stock into the Crystal Ball's themselves on face value, but I do value the opinions of certain analysts-- especially when they post about their rationale for making their pick.

So, just to understand, is Bill Greene one of these analysts you trust? How about Demetric Warren from varsitypreps (also a UC CB) and Andrew Ellis from 11 Warriors (the OSU CB)? My brother is an OSU alum and huge, but reasonable, buckeye fan and he loves 11 Warriors.

I tend to put more stock into the picks by guys who cover regions as opposed to particular team staff members. Staff guys tend to be more biased. However, there are exceptions to the rule on both sides. I like Bill- if you are a member of BCJ you would understand why.

As I posted above, the Crystal Ball tool is nice, but I do not consider it gospel. Sometimes it’s dead on, other times it is wild speculation. What’s more, these kids change their minds several times.

Good to understand your thinking. Thanks for the clarification.
 
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RE: Football Class of 2019
(08-11-2018 10:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(08-11-2018 07:38 AM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 12:59 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 12:42 PM)bearcatdp Wrote:  
(08-10-2018 09:33 AM)The T-Shirt Wrote:  That's a percentage of people who have picked him to go to OSU and UC. So he has 3 total people predicting where he will pick for college, 2 people predict UC, 1 predicts OSU.

Per 247, he doesn't have an OSU offer yet.

Just to be clear that doesn't matter. The Crystal Ball tool on 247 is just a prognostication by recruiting analysts on the site. There are some analysts that don't put in a pick until they know for certain, and then there are others who game it up by putting in Crystal Ball's to a school they follow (there are a couple that follow UK that are notorious for this).

Frankly, I don't put a lot of stock into the Crystal Ball's themselves on face value, but I do value the opinions of certain analysts-- especially when they post about their rationale for making their pick.

So, just to understand, is Bill Greene one of these analysts you trust? How about Demetric Warren from varsitypreps (also a UC CB) and Andrew Ellis from 11 Warriors (the OSU CB)? My brother is an OSU alum and huge, but reasonable, buckeye fan and he loves 11 Warriors.

I tend to put more stock into the picks by guys who cover regions as opposed to particular team staff members. Staff guys tend to be more biased. However, there are exceptions to the rule on both sides. I like Bill- if you are a member of BCJ you would understand why.

As I posted above, the Crystal Ball tool is nice, but I do not consider it gospel. Sometimes it’s dead on, other times it is wild speculation. What’s more, these kids change their minds several times.

It's also good to understand that at times the person making the Crystal Ball is doing so with only one side of the info. There are kids every cycle that want to commit to a school, but they aren't a take. If that person doesn't have the info from both sides, you will see picks that only tell part of the story...
 
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RE: Football Class of 2019
Per the story, UC was the favorite and pushing hard to land a 3* Michigan DE until he just got his dream offer from UM.

2019 3-star DE Tyrece Woods Breaks Down Commitment to Michigan
 
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(08-15-2018 10:49 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Per the story, UC was the favorite and pushing hard to land a 3* Michigan DE until he just got his dream offer from UM.

2019 3-star DE Tyrece Woods Breaks Down Commitment to Michigan

Fickell and company have amazed me so far on the recruiting trail. I'm impressed that they go head to head for higher echelon talent and even win a few. I'm sure their dilemma remains: invest time and resources in chasing guys at this level or settle for less talented/developmental prospects willing to commit early. Seems they've demonstrated a decent balancing act so far.
 
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RE: Football Class of 2019
(08-16-2018 07:58 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(08-15-2018 10:49 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  Per the story, UC was the favorite and pushing hard to land a 3* Michigan DE until he just got his dream offer from UM.

2019 3-star DE Tyrece Woods Breaks Down Commitment to Michigan

Fickell and company have amazed me so far on the recruiting trail. I'm impressed that they go head to head for higher echelon talent and even win a few. I'm sure their dilemma remains: invest time and resources in chasing guys at this level or settle for less talented/developmental prospects willing to commit early. Seems they've demonstrated a decent balancing act so far.

I see this a little differently. I fully support going head to head with the big boys for select targets, but we aren't going to beat out UM for Michigan kids very often. Looking at his ranking and offers, I see him as more of an under-the-radar hidden gem type. I'm sure his ranking/rating will go up now, but I doubt many casual UM fans are jumping up and down about his commitment. Instead, I think that is why UC was pushing so hard for a commitment - to beat the big boys to the punch. Of course even a commitment doesn't guarantee a kid will stick with you if he "blows up" but I'd rather be starting from the top and trying to hold on than trying to climb to the top among the snakes.

This kid held off on committing to us, hoping for an offer from his nearby dream school and he was fortunate enough to get it. I can live with that and I'd much rather have that than for him to commit and later renege to us. For his sake, hopefully it pays off for him. There's more fish in the sea for us.
 
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RE: Football Class of 2019
Now this one is more of going head to head for high echelon talent that OKIcat spoke of:


 
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