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RE: Football Class of 2019
(03-19-2019 10:25 AM)eroc Wrote:  
(02-15-2019 02:07 PM)Marcus Wrote:  
(02-14-2019 01:48 PM)dubcat14 Wrote:  https://twitter.com/rudedawgrules/status...25056?s=21

Proof that recruiting sites are a joke. Some HS students effectively catfished Rivals and 247 by creating a made up high school football player and tweeting out he received an offer from Alabama.

The students created Blake Carrienger, a 6’ 6” 315 lb offensive tackle out of Grace Christian Academy. Based solely on his tweet, Rivals and 247 put them in their databases and rated him a 3 star. No film or tape to analyze or numbers to go off of. Not even a check of the high school’s roster.

Interesting..

I personally don't think the recruiting site are a joke at all. There is some bias for sure but for the most part they do a pretty good job. These fake recruits seem to pop up every so often. It's just the nature of the beast. These analysts just don't have the manpower to scout and see every single prospect in the country in a "live" setting. Just too many out there.

Marcus;

Given your observation, isn't the lesser of two evils to not rate a player rather then "rate" a phony player? There is a good faith element to the service provided by these sites. Something like this hurts their reputation and ultimately, i imagine, their bottom line. In a business where there is a significant amount of skepticism about their product already, one would think they would err on the side of caution.

The rankings aren't perfect, but the concept of "let's rank the player based on who is offering a scholly" is fairly sound, or at least it provides a decent barometer. There is no way to personally evaluate the thousands upon thousands of HS football players.

The relatively recent development that causes an issue with the rankings is that the model was built when the Alabama's, OSU's, etc were offering 40-50 players per year. Now they are offering hundreds (some schools as many as 400-500).

It's a messed up system.
 
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RE: Football Class of 2019
Saw today that Blue Smith, a kid from Dayton Wayne who we recruited for football (and basketball?) announced his transfer from Ohio State. He had a couple of schools - including Kentucky - that offered him in football but agreed to let him play basketball too. Could we be a possible landing spot? His recruiting profile - https://247sports.com/Player/LChristian-...ol-134262/
 
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(03-23-2019 02:26 PM)geef Wrote:  Saw today that Blue Smith, a kid from Dayton Wayne who we recruited for football (and basketball?) announced his transfer from Ohio State. He had a couple of schools - including Kentucky - that offered him in football but agreed to let him play basketball too. Could we be a possible landing spot? His recruiting profile - https://247sports.com/Player/LChristian-...ol-134262/
Seen him play numerous times. Doesn't surprise me he's bailing on OSU because he strikes me as lazy and maybe uncoachable by always relying on his talent alone to carry him.
 
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(03-23-2019 02:42 PM)Romell Shorter Wrote:  
(03-23-2019 02:26 PM)geef Wrote:  Saw today that Blue Smith, a kid from Dayton Wayne who we recruited for football (and basketball?) announced his transfer from Ohio State. He had a couple of schools - including Kentucky - that offered him in football but agreed to let him play basketball too. Could we be a possible landing spot? His recruiting profile - https://247sports.com/Player/LChristian-...ol-134262/
Seen him play numerous times. Doesn't surprise me he's bailing on OSU because he strikes me as lazy and maybe uncoachable by always relying on his talent alone to carry him.

We are in complete agreement here.
 
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Source just told me Smith was 'asked' to leave.
 
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I think he was also a d1 basketball prospect if i recall correctly?
 
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(03-23-2019 03:31 PM)dsquare Wrote:  I think he was also a d1 basketball prospect if i recall correctly?

Yes...for some reason I seem to recall Cincinnati was one of the schools to go after him for both. Didnt OSU try to convert him to LB or something stupid like that?
 
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Interesting news about Blue. OSU reportedly was 2 over the 85 scholly limit so they needed to "lose" 2 players (one still to go) one way or another. My recollection is Blue spent a lot of time around UC bonding with recruits and the coaching staff while he was being recruited although I'm not sure we ever had much of a shot at getting him. IIRC we were in his top 3 but not his final two (OSU and UK). But I could be off.

Sometimes being asked to leave is the wake-up call that a guy needs. Other times it's a sign of what's still to come. I'll trust Luke, especially with his contacts at OSU (and Mick if he's looking into it) to make the right call. But we could sure use a WR with big play ability.

I'm definitely not saying it means a doggone thing, but the first comment here is by someone ("Ophra") claiming info that Blue will remain on scholly until the end of the semester or until he officially transfers and that UC "would like to get him".
 
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(03-23-2019 03:55 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(03-23-2019 03:31 PM)dsquare Wrote:  I think he was also a d1 basketball prospect if i recall correctly?

Yes...for some reason I seem to recall Cincinnati was one of the schools to go after him for both. Didnt OSU try to convert him to LB or something stupid like that?

Tight End. They asked him to bulk up, according to the article I read.

Interesting perspectives from Romell and others - I don't know much about the kid, other than recalling that we recruited him.
 
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Only issue is that Joker was his primary...not sure how much that would affect the relationship with UC/our chances.
 
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Bucknuts board is saying he’s coming here
 
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(03-24-2019 12:32 PM)wanes Wrote:  Bucknuts board is saying he’s coming here

link? thx.
 
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(03-23-2019 06:36 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  Only issue is that Joker was his primary...not sure how much that would affect the relationship with UC/our chances.

Have to think we have a chance with Wayne kids as long as Freeman and Mickens are on staff l
 
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Scroll to the bottom of the comments to find Bill Greene.

(03-24-2019 12:34 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(03-24-2019 12:32 PM)wanes Wrote:  Bucknuts board is saying he’s coming here

link? thx.
 
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why would we want a player that ohio $tate asked to leave their program?
 
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(02-14-2019 08:40 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(02-13-2019 08:18 PM)SeniorBearcat Wrote:  [Image: DzPm_dbUUAAA20g.jpg]

That would be nice...he made an impact against us in the bowl game, was their #1 receiver last year, and would be a grad transfer with one year left in a position with no true #1 coming back. Solid way to transition that position room to all the young guys.

Notre Dame is reportedly pretty happy with their current WR crew based upon spring ball and is no longer pursuing Kumah.
 
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Good pick up, now let's get a receiver.
 
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Big pick up!
 
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