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RE: Message from Director of Athletics Mark Ingram
(06-25-2015 09:26 PM)scales Wrote:  Take off the tin foil hats and freaking relax.

Hey, remember when people told us to take off the tin foil hats about the board trying to nix the football program. Take off the tin foil hats about the stadium. You UAB fans are always seeing black helicopters.
After a dogs been kicked so many times it does one of two things. Cower or snap back. No more cowering. Ingram wanted the job and you get what comes with it. I hate it he has to come in in this situation, but he knew what he was walking into. A fan base that has been lied to and raised more money than ever before and still are getting fed info in bits and pieces.
So I and others aren't wearing tin foil hats. Were making sure we don't get burned again.


(06-25-2015 09:50 PM)PTBlazer Wrote:  I was told in a conversation this evening that there is a serious impasse with Clark's contract. His agent/attorney wants Haase's deal, years and dollars. What is on the table is four years (from today) with a $75/100M annual raise from what he has currently with some additional incentives.

Apparently both sides are dug in pretty hard. Clark's camp believes he in never going to have more leverage than right now, and understands the uproar if he is not resigned.

It's an interesting situation.

You are correct PTBlazer, it is pretty interesting right now, as far as Clark's contract situation. And I'm all on his side. Burn me once shame on you. Burn me twice, well you know the rest.
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RE: Message from Director of Athletics Mark Ingram
Rook360, if you didn't wear the tin foil hat then it's a little late to be wearing it now.
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RE: Message from Director of Athletics Mark Ingram
The question I've got rolling around my aluminum clad head - if it's up to the NCAA to say when & under what conditions fb returns, have we even contacted the NCAA about a ruling??? The NCAA may be waiting for us to ask yet we've not even asked them so they're doing nothing. Heard nothing ironclad in regards to NCAA being contacted to make a ruling just assumptions that they are


My tin foil hat says Watts & Co hasn't lifted a finger in this regard since he pretty much said he won't do anything for fb. Has Ingram picked up the ball that Watts fumbled on purpose or is he just as guilty as Watts & Co for putting the ball on the ground? Contract negotiations for coaches are fine but it'd be nice to have more firm info from NCAA on our situation as not only do those very coaches need to know, CUSA, current players, recruits & fans do as well.
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RE: Message from Director of Athletics Mark Ingram
(06-25-2015 10:17 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  Rook360, if you didn't wear the tin foil hat then it's a little late to be wearing it now.

LoL, Never wore the tin foil hat. Didn't have to when I was right there everyday seeing what was going on. It's one thing to tell people to calm down, but it's another to patronize people by calling their concerns conspiracy theories or over reactions (tin foil hats or black helicopters) after what we've all just been through.
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RE: Message from Director of Athletics Mark Ingram
If UAB is holding firm on four years that's a problem. It needs to be six or seven depending on when we next play football. I could understand five but four is sabotage unless its a negotiating ploy
06-26-2015 06:32 AM
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(06-25-2015 09:50 PM)PTBlazer Wrote:  I was told in a conversation this evening that there is a serious impasse with Clark's contract. His agent/attorney wants Haase's deal, years and dollars. What is on the table is four years (from today) with a $75/100M annual raise from what he has currently with some additional incentives.

Apparently both sides are dug in pretty hard. Clark's camp believes he in never going to have more leverage than right now, and understands the uproar if he is not resigned.

It's an interesting situation.

If he is going to get a $75/$100M annual raise from what he currently has, he should be more than fine.($75/$100k sounds more appropriate).

In my opinion, Clark deserves something in the neighborhood of the Haase deal. If we want the program built the right way, and him to stay, we need to pay him well. It makes sense that money is an issue, but that should be something that can be resolved. I also think 6 years is a reasonable length to request.(6 years total from when the new contract is done)
06-26-2015 07:39 AM
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I understand the impasse in the negotiations, but if wasn't something that could be resolved I have a hard time seeing Clark brining in assistants like he's doing. You wouldn't ask a guy to move if you weren't even sure YOU would be coaching at UAB.
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(06-25-2015 10:34 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  The question I've got rolling around my aluminum clad head - if it's up to the NCAA to say when & under what conditions fb returns, have we even contacted the NCAA about a ruling??? The NCAA may be waiting for us to ask yet we've not even asked them so they're doing nothing. Heard nothing ironclad in regards to NCAA being contacted to make a ruling just assumptions that they are.

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(06-26-2015 06:32 AM)bladhmadh Wrote:  If UAB is holding firm on four years that's a problem. It needs to be six or seven depending on when we next play football. I could understand five but four is sabotage unless its a negotiating ploy

If anyone on the UAB side can hold firm on any financial issue after pissing away $11 million on Theresa Bruno, Clay Ryan and Sard Verbinnen in the failed attempt to cover up Ray Watts' cosmic-scale ineptitude, that guy/gal needs to quit and join the pro poker circuit immediately.
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(06-26-2015 09:05 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  
(06-25-2015 10:34 PM)blazerwkr Wrote:  The question I've got rolling around my aluminum clad head - if it's up to the NCAA to say when & under what conditions fb returns, have we even contacted the NCAA about a ruling??? The NCAA may be waiting for us to ask yet we've not even asked them so they're doing nothing. Heard nothing ironclad in regards to NCAA being contacted to make a ruling just assumptions that they are.

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UAB and C-USA had the initial conference call with the NCAA on the afternoon of June 2nd. I'm sure there have been subsequent conversations.

The NCAA doesn't have the final say on when football returns...the quickness of the return does depend upon what waivers the NCAA is willing to hand out, if any. This is uncharted territory, any decisions will create a precedent and must be considered carefully, weighing all the possible ramifications.

The NCAA typically moves at its own sloth-like speed. Hopefully their decision will happen sooner than later.
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Ingram was not truthful in his email about Clark's contract. Fact. Can't say how I know. Keep pressure on Ingram and VPs it's working.

I am sick and tired of being lied to by UAB Administration.

Watts also misrepresenting facts about numbers as well. No tin foil hat needed when I am witnessing it first hand.

Keep making calls and writing emails. It's working. Make sure You contact Khan as well. Don't ask. Just do it.

We promoted that email and we helped get contract negotiations started.
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What coaches have we hired? Where is the university release on this? We have six assistants that are still here.
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I was told in a conversation this evening that there is a serious impasse with Clark's contract. His agent/attorney wants Haase's deal, years and dollars. What is on the table is four years (from today) with a $75/100M annual raise from what he has currently with some additional incentives.

Apparently both sides are dug in pretty hard. Clark's camp believes he in never going to have more leverage than right now, and understands the uproar if he is not resigned.

It's an interesting situation.
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It's not about money. I also know when negotiations actually started. Ingram was not truthful.

Money is not the issue. Dig deeper.
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(06-27-2015 07:52 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  What coaches have we hired? Where is the university release on this? We have six assistants that are still here.

To asst coaches announced they quit their jobs and joining uab
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(06-27-2015 08:00 AM)bladhmadh Wrote:  
(06-27-2015 07:52 AM)ATTALLABLAZE Wrote:  What coaches have we hired? Where is the university release on this? We have six assistants that are still here.

To asst coaches announced they quit their jobs and joining uab

Announced on their own. Attalla's point is that the university is still pretending it's 3:59 pm on June 1st.
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Bingo!

Make the calls if you want football much less coach Clark.
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Ray Watts is still president of UAB, and Ray Watts is still a compulsive liar and a sociopath. He lies to get his way, but he also lies because that's just what he does. He will not act without pressure; we've seen that and proven that.

I've not met Ingram, much less had any conversation with him, but I'd guess that he does not fully comprehend this. And it's hard to blame him because unless you've experienced it as we have, it's pretty much unbelievable that a great university - one specializing in treating the sick - could be run by a mentally ill individual.

Even the best liars give tells. One of Watts' most telling has been, "You can't run a university on promises." He says that, and probably believes that, because since his word means nothing to him he assumes the rest of us (say, Jimmy Fuller) are also lying when we give our word.

Watts' promises mean nothing until he's forced to act. Maintain the pressure. This did not end on June 1st.
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So football may not be reinstated? If that is the case why isn't Jack Williams or someone from the Football Foundation speaking up about this? Why aren't threads pinned at the top of board reminding people to call the VP, representatives, etc?
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What is Ingram's email address?
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(06-27-2015 09:11 AM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  So football may not be reinstated?

I don't believe he could get away with that, nor would he try. I do believe he'll do his damnedest to slowwalk reinstatement, both out of the sheer stubbornness of the Small Man and the thought that a 2017 restart makes it less likely there will be returning players giving sidelines interviews that "Ray Watts stole a year of my life" and less likely the team will be competitive and the stands filled.

Ray Watts is evil. Evil does not do the right thing. Ever.
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