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Kit-Cat, if you are ever bored, waged a Danial Says Rebellion on the hoops forum of UMassHoops.com title, the 'Benefits of the A10'. Cat 'n mouse and then let down the boom that with the casual and UMass fanatic fans, football is more popular comparing terrible attendance with both. Some days go a bit to far and SOB.

Quote:Agree with you until 2023-2026. If the musical chairs stop and we don't have an invite to the AAC and the MAC is available we have to take it.

Current attendance in both sports Football and Basketball shown the UMass die-hart and casual fan cares more about football. We were in the NCAA in 2014 so basketball has been bad for 4 years or less and attendance was 47,737 and average 2652 or 27.9% capacity. Football has been bad for 10 years and we had 62,312 attendance and average 10,385 or 61.1 percent of capacity.

Feel financial it not a major difference between the A10 and the MAC when all is consider. The MAC this year is better than the A10 for the most part in all sports, even men's basketball this year. They do not have some sports as women's lacrosse and have volleyball.

Most years the A10 is ahead of the MAC but not much and what is the impact to basketball?
Let's say on average 1,500 fans of course in bad years it's less and good years perhaps more.
Perhaps recruiting is a little bit harder and have to sell the university, facilities and coaching staff more.

What's the impact on football?
Don't see a significant change in attendance based on the conference.
Recruiting will be easier as we no longer have to sell the university, facilities and coach staff as hard.
Plus we now have a conference champions possibilities to sell along with a bowl game.

Never going to convince you but make you aware. Hope that we can get to the AAC like many hope. Talking about plan B by 2023-2026 and say for most conference above the A10 for BB, football matters more. Know you absolutely hate that, but silence gets you no where and you guys can fill it up, except guess when it comes to the Mullins when the team is not performing.


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(04-25-2019 10:32 PM)McKinney Wrote:  
(04-25-2019 09:48 PM)esayem Wrote:  Wow, so many generic and soulless logos there. IMO, the “power U” as you call it, was classic. I remember seeing the font on the basketball uniforms back in the day thinking it was cool. That was back when teams really just had the classic block lettering, script, or some sort of western/circus font.

Your rivals there at UConn have an Adobe Illustrator logo now...ugh. I read somewhere that people liked the Cleveland Indians logo because it was hand drawn. All logos used to be that way, now they’re all computerized and sterile. It’s like analog vs. digital, man. :puts joint down:

The 90's Calipari era logo is known as the "Script U". Not 100% sure that's the official name though. And you're right, it's a classic. Beloved by many alums and fans, if only because of the era it represents. Speaking of "soul", rumor is it was designed by Cal himself. I believe this was also the first time UMass used "UMass" in its primary mark. Previous uniforms used an interlocking UM, a block M, or just Massachusetts (sometimes either Mass., Mass. State, or Mass. Aggie depending on the time period and sport).
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In 2003 UMass contracted out Phoenix to design this. I don't think this has a name, but I call it the "Staircase" because the ASS is smaller and the M is smaller than the U. I also think this was the first and only time the primary mark featured a mascot. Previous secondary marks featured Metawampe or Sam the Minuteman. But no primary marks to my knowlege.
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The current logo first appeared on the football helmets when UMass moved up to FBS in 2012. It is officially called the "Power U". That's what our athletic dept calls it. Why? I have no idea. It was also done by Phoenix Design Works.
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Interesting about Coach Cal. IMO, all Phoenix needed to do was add some shading and contour to the Script U logo for an update and they'd be fine. Like I said, it's iconic and unique.

The Power U is pretty boring and has no character. The newer Minuteman was okay, but looked kind of robotic; I prefer the goofy mascot version.

I looked in my '93-94 Blue Ribbon Yearbook, which features a ton of cool old logos, and the UMass logo had a Minuteman dunking a ball over the state of Massachusetts with the hoop over Amherst. Pretty slick.
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There are a few things to note in the latest updates from AD Ryan Bamford interview with beat reporter Josh Walfish from the Daily Hampshire Gazette.

From all the communications it seems clear we are planning to be independent through 2024. Never thought we go 8 years as an independent as it is a difficult route and in particular impacts recruiting.

Quote:“These changes will take us through at least the next five years,” Bamford said. “My goal is to get 17-20,000 people at McGuirk every game, and when we do that and it becomes a high demand and a low limited supply of seats, we figure out how do we grow or how do we do some things differently.”

The article points out a few things in a different context.
Quote:In addition to the physical changes to the stadium, the school is also creating several new ticketing options for the 2019 season. The addition of what the school called a “hospitality plaza” in the south end zone will help diversify the viewing options for fans. The area behind the end zone will feature a variety of food and drink options — including alcohol — as well as tables that allow fans to get closer to the action.

Bamford said he wanted to attract more alumni families to the games by giving them an area to sit and socialize in a more high-end space than the bleachers on both sidelines. The athletic director said creating those various ticketing options was important in order to bridge the gap between the wealthy donors in the Hunt Hospitality Suite and the common fans in the grandstands.

“What we wanted to do was create some different ticket and pricing options for people,” Bamford said. “We were finding that we wanted to attract more young families. ... We wanted to create different tiers and really introduce UMass football to different populations.”

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Smart. I like what Bamford is doing.

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I like the logo with the minuteman. That was my intro to the team and I like logos that incorporate the nickname, like a tiger for example.
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Thanks panama and Bronco'14.

Bronco'14, it's been nice to see a number of MAC teams returning to the schedule: Toledo, Buffalo, EMU, Akron, NIU, and Ohio. Of course it's generally one or two teams a year, except for 2024, which has 3 MAC teams.
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