(06-01-2015 04:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UAB fb being reinstated is not a good thing. If it was that great of a thing it wouldnt have been deep sixed to begin with.

Yeah, never mind that the study used to explain killing UAB football has been refuted by a second study, paid for by fans.

UA BOT and Watts used BS numbers to try and kill UAB football...that's lying, and lying is wrong.

Good for UAB

(06-01-2015 04:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UAB fb being reinstated is not a good thing. If it was that great of a thing it wouldnt have been deep sixed to begin with.

While I think that Tigerjeb has accurately stated that there are still unidentified hurdles to clear before reinstatement will actually occur, I don't think that you fully understand what happened in the shenanigans between Tuscaloosa/Bryant family/UAB.

....and I fully understand that there's no reason why you would or even should understand, unless/until you make a value judgement statement regarding the reinstatement. There's a whole lot going on there that's not entirely visible to everyone.

looks like they got reinstated so you all can put down the pitch forks and lanterns and stop your pretend outrage at Alabama now.

move along, nothing to see here


PS: I hope their next home opener has 8k there. It will be my new signature with some snarky comment.

I stated months ago that the best thing for UAB's future would be to go several seasons without...so more $$$ can come pouring into the program...and enough time to have a plan and build a 25,000-30,000 type on-campus stadium....something that could be close to or sold-out for Season 1 of their return.

With UAB coming back in 2016...going back to the decrepit Legion Field (zero need for any UAB to buy a season tix..as its never ever close to a sellout), I think in another 6-7 years...we might be back to this same scenario (program under threat to shut-down....as Legion Field continues to fall apart).

What's clear to me in all this is that people from Alabama put a lot more stock in football than brains.

While I'm happy for UAB fans, they are going to wind up in the same spot again in a few years unless they can get out from under Bama's fist.

(06-01-2015 04:32 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  UAB fb being reinstated is not a good thing. If it was that great of a thing it wouldnt have been deep sixed to begin with.

There were other reasons for that, but we all know that.

(06-01-2015 03:38 PM)OUGwave Wrote:  It's not good generally for those G5 schools that are trying to compete. If you add another 20 or 30 schools with no plan, no facility, no intention or strategy for being competitive, it actually weakens the case for equality across the division.

If they can lump ECU into a bucket with Georgia State and UAB, how on earth does that help ECU?

It's not good generally for those P5 schools that are trying to compete. If you add another 20 or 30 schools with no plan, no facility, no intention or strategy for being competitive, it actually weakens the case for equality across the division.

If they can lump FSU into a bucket with Iowa State and Wake Forest, how on earth does that help FSU?

I say this without the slightest bit of hyperbole...I couldn't care less.

(06-02-2015 01:37 PM)panama Wrote:  

(06-01-2015 03:38 PM)OUGwave Wrote:  It's not good generally for those G5 schools that are trying to compete. If you add another 20 or 30 schools with no plan, no facility, no intention or strategy for being competitive, it actually weakens the case for equality across the division.

If they can lump ECU into a bucket with Georgia State and UAB, how on earth does that help ECU?

It's not good generally for those P5 schools that are trying to compete. If you add another 20 or 30 schools with no plan, no facility, no intention or strategy for being competitive, it actually weakens the case for equality across the division.

If they can lump FSU into a bucket with Iowa State and Wake Forest, how on earth does that help FSU?

Hahaha!!

(06-02-2015 03:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  I say this without the slightest bit of hyperbole...I couldn't care less.

Actually you could. An example of caring less: not taking the time to write this ^^^

Birmingham and Jefferson County is a clusterfrick. If you guys knew the real politics of the situation. Watts is a bham native and UAB alum yet he is the big villan. The bham mayor is already backing off the city commitment to uab sports. Bham is everything bad about Memphis times ten. It's all kinda amusing. They whine about UAT but take UA system money. It's all a laughable farce. The whole UAB football fiasco is a microcosm of the city of bham. UAB football is back for the same reason that it was killed. UAT and the state of Alabama really don't gaf one way or the other.

Imaginary money and commitments. I will believe it when I see it

(06-02-2015 10:52 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Birmingham and Jefferson County is a clusterfrick. If you guys knew the real politics of the situation. Watts is a bham native and UAB alum yet he is the big villan. The bham mayor is already backing off the city commitment to uab sports. Bham is everything bad about Memphis times ten. It's all kinda amusing. They whine about UAT but take UA system money. It's all a laughable farce. The whole UAB football fiasco is a microcosm of the city of bham. UAB football is back for the same reason that it was killed. UAT and the state of Alabama really don't gaf one way or the other.

Imaginary money and commitments. I will believe it when I see it

Watts may be an alum but he is an alumnus from a different era and clearly does not want football at UAB. The press conference Monday was pretty embarrassing to watch and cringe worthy. He has been completely non transparent since he became president and much of the UAB community, including many on the medical side, are not enthused at all that he is still the president after this fiasco. Don't defend him just because you dislike Birmingham.

....great news for UAB football. I am sure the hundreds of fans that attended games will be happy that tailgating on Tuesday and Wednesday nights is back!

(06-03-2015 02:16 AM)Shrack Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 10:52 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Birmingham and Jefferson County is a clusterfrick. If you guys knew the real politics of the situation. Watts is a bham native and UAB alum yet he is the big villan. The bham mayor is already backing off the city commitment to uab sports. Bham is everything bad about Memphis times ten. It's all kinda amusing. They whine about UAT but take UA system money. It's all a laughable farce. The whole UAB football fiasco is a microcosm of the city of bham. UAB football is back for the same reason that it was killed. UAT and the state of Alabama really don't gaf one way or the other.

Imaginary money and commitments. I will believe it when I see it

Watts may be an alum but he is an alumnus from a different era and clearly does not want football at UAB. The press conference Monday was pretty embarrassing to watch and cringe worthy. He has been completely non transparent since he became president and much of the UAB community, including many on the medical side, are not enthused at all that he is still the president after this fiasco. Don't defend him just because you dislike Birmingham.

This

(06-02-2015 06:32 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 03:22 PM)maccoog Wrote:  I say this without the slightest bit of hyperbole...I couldn't care less.

Actually you could. An example of caring less: not taking the time to write this ^^^

I stand corrected. I could care 2 posts on the topic less. That is it though.

(06-03-2015 02:16 AM)Shrack Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 10:52 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Birmingham and Jefferson County is a clusterfrick. If you guys knew the real politics of the situation. Watts is a bham native and UAB alum yet he is the big villan. The bham mayor is already backing off the city commitment to uab sports. Bham is everything bad about Memphis times ten. It's all kinda amusing. They whine about UAT but take UA system money. It's all a laughable farce. The whole UAB football fiasco is a microcosm of the city of bham. UAB football is back for the same reason that it was killed. UAT and the state of Alabama really don't gaf one way or the other.

Imaginary money and commitments. I will believe it when I see it

Watts may be an alum but he is an alumnus from a different era and clearly does not want football at UAB. The press conference Monday was pretty embarrassing to watch and cringe worthy. He has been completely non transparent since he became president and much of the UAB community, including many on the medical side, are not enthused at all that he is still the president after this fiasco. Don't defend him just because you dislike Birmingham.

I'm not defending him just pointing out that he is UAB to the bone. He is your product cultivated in bham. The medical side people I know are completely sick of the uab undergrad football drama and thought watts made the right decision. South alabama has a new med school. Auburn is starting a med school. Meanwhile the Univ of Alabama system med school is knee deep in typical bham stupidity. The other side of the story no one talks about is that UAB is losing its med school monopoly and worrying about awful football

Split the med school from the undergrad. Let the Univ of bham do its on thing the bham way. Univ of Alabama medical center. Univ of bham. Simple. Univ of bham football. Go for it. Fund it.

There is not the solidarity within the UAB community that you guys like to portray. It's easier to personally attack watts and let jack Williams (lol) be your champion. I mean that is just absurdly ridiculous.

Most alabamians are just sick of Bham and Bham stupidity. Auburn and USA will gladly syphon off uab med students while uab plays football.

Smh at bham

(06-03-2015 02:11 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 02:16 AM)Shrack Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 10:52 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Birmingham and Jefferson County is a clusterfrick. If you guys knew the real politics of the situation. Watts is a bham native and UAB alum yet he is the big villan. The bham mayor is already backing off the city commitment to uab sports. Bham is everything bad about Memphis times ten. It's all kinda amusing. They whine about UAT but take UA system money. It's all a laughable farce. The whole UAB football fiasco is a microcosm of the city of bham. UAB football is back for the same reason that it was killed. UAT and the state of Alabama really don't gaf one way or the other.

Imaginary money and commitments. I will believe it when I see it

Watts may be an alum but he is an alumnus from a different era and clearly does not want football at UAB. The press conference Monday was pretty embarrassing to watch and cringe worthy. He has been completely non transparent since he became president and much of the UAB community, including many on the medical side, are not enthused at all that he is still the president after this fiasco. Don't defend him just because you dislike Birmingham.

I'm not defending him just pointing out that he is UAB to the bone. He is your product cultivated in bham. The medical side people I know are completely sick of the uab undergrad football drama and thought watts made the right decision. South alabama has a new med school. Auburn is starting a med school. Meanwhile the Univ of Alabama system med school is knee deep in typical bham stupidity. The other side of the story no one talks about is that UAB is losing its med school monopoly and worrying about awful football

Split the med school from the undergrad. Let the Univ of bham do its on thing the bham way. Univ of Alabama medical center. Univ of bham. Simple. Univ of bham football. Go for it. Fund it.

There is not the solidarity within the UAB community that you guys like to portray. It's easier to personally attack watts and let jack Williams (lol) be your champion. I mean that is just absurdly ridiculous.

Most alabamians are just sick of Bham and Bham stupidity. Auburn and USA will gladly syphon off uab med students while uab plays football.

Smh at bham

You act like a small football program is such a detriment to the UAB medical system. Why is football such a problem but all the other sports are not? Doesnt make sense, especially when youre going to spend the same money just existing in a conference like the MVC.

The medical system having problems is partially already on Watts. He was the dean for years and now he is the president. No doubt the medical system/school is the most important thing by far as a lot depends on it, but football should have never been knifed in the back to begin with. This should have never been one of the largest PR embarrassments in UAB history to begin with. Zero transparency. Zero fundraising pushed by UAB after Carol Garrison resigned. Zero athletic debt for nearly 8 years. Watts had every opportunity to ask the community for help and he didn't. While reinstating it he acted like a spoiled kid who didn't get his way. No "Go Blazers." Barely mentioned Bill Clark. Millions spent just to drop the program/hiring multiple PR firms AND then he reinstates it. Talk about a waste of money. He should be held responsible and removed. Also you have people associated with the VP positions at UAB not properly filling or ethics forms for years.

I won't argue that part of the blame isn't on UAB alums and fans. It is. But now it has been made clear that the administration does not back the program in any way so it is fully up to the fans. Saying "We are going to have world class facilities" and "We are not going to spend a dime on football ever" don't mix.

I also won't argue that Birmingham isn't disfunctional. It is. Birmingham needs to get it's crap together. A lot of wasted potential there. Also, the good ole boy politics is the reason Alabama is near 50th in everything. Alabama in general needs to get it's head out of its butt.

However, you reference South Alabama, a school that just started up FBS football and has the full backing of its admins. They have already invested more into football facilities than UAB ever did/was allowed. Their fan support is no greater than UABs and they certainly dont have the same athletic revenue. South Alabama has a little vision.

UAB can be more than just medicine. Nothing wrong with that.

(06-03-2015 02:34 PM)Shrack Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 02:11 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(06-03-2015 02:16 AM)Shrack Wrote:  

(06-02-2015 10:52 PM)shere khan Wrote:  Birmingham and Jefferson County is a clusterfrick. If you guys knew the real politics of the situation. Watts is a bham native and UAB alum yet he is the big villan. The bham mayor is already backing off the city commitment to uab sports. Bham is everything bad about Memphis times ten. It's all kinda amusing. They whine about UAT but take UA system money. It's all a laughable farce. The whole UAB football fiasco is a microcosm of the city of bham. UAB football is back for the same reason that it was killed. UAT and the state of Alabama really don't gaf one way or the other.

Imaginary money and commitments. I will believe it when I see it

Watts may be an alum but he is an alumnus from a different era and clearly does not want football at UAB. The press conference Monday was pretty embarrassing to watch and cringe worthy. He has been completely non transparent since he became president and much of the UAB community, including many on the medical side, are not enthused at all that he is still the president after this fiasco. Don't defend him just because you dislike Birmingham.

I'm not defending him just pointing out that he is UAB to the bone. He is your product cultivated in bham. The medical side people I know are completely sick of the uab undergrad football drama and thought watts made the right decision. South alabama has a new med school. Auburn is starting a med school. Meanwhile the Univ of Alabama system med school is knee deep in typical bham stupidity. The other side of the story no one talks about is that UAB is losing its med school monopoly and worrying about awful football

Split the med school from the undergrad. Let the Univ of bham do its on thing the bham way. Univ of Alabama medical center. Univ of bham. Simple. Univ of bham football. Go for it. Fund it.

There is not the solidarity within the UAB community that you guys like to portray. It's easier to personally attack watts and let jack Williams (lol) be your champion. I mean that is just absurdly ridiculous.

Most alabamians are just sick of Bham and Bham stupidity. Auburn and USA will gladly syphon off uab med students while uab plays football.

Smh at bham

You act like a small football program is such a detriment to the UAB medical system. Why is football such a problem but all the other sports are not? Doesnt make sense, especially when youre going to spend the same money just existing in a conference like the MVC.

The medical system having problems is partially already on Watts. He was the dean for years and now he is the president. No doubt the medical system/school is the most important thing by far as a lot depends on it, but football should have never been knifed in the back to begin with. This should have never been one of the largest PR embarrassments in UAB history to begin with. Zero transparency. Zero fundraising pushed by UAB after Carol Garrison resigned. Zero athletic debt for nearly 8 years. Watts had every opportunity to ask the community for help and he didn't. While reinstating it he acted like a spoiled kid who didn't get his way. No "Go Blazers." Barely mentioned Bill Clark. Millions spent just to drop the program/hiring multiple PR firms AND then he reinstates it. Talk about a waste of money. He should be held responsible and removed. Also you have people associated with the VP positions at UAB not properly filling or ethics forms for years.

I won't argue that part of the blame isn't on UAB alums and fans. It is. But now it has been made clear that the administration does not back the program in any way so it is fully up to the fans. Saying "We are going to have world class facilities" and "We are not going to spend a dime on football ever" don't mix.

I also won't argue that Birmingham isn't disfunctional. It is. Birmingham needs to get it's crap together. A lot of wasted potential there. Also, the good ole boy politics is the reason Alabama is near 50th in everything. Alabama in general needs to get it's head out of its butt.

However, you reference South Alabama, a school that just started up FBS football and has the full backing of its admins. They have already invested more into football facilities than UAB ever did/was allowed. Their fan support is no greater than UABs and they certainly dont have the same athletic revenue. South Alabama has a little vision.

UAB can be more than just medicine. Nothing wrong with that.

Those that run the primary medical school in the state tried to get UAB's head outa it's butt. Bham shoved it right back in.

Still knawing in this bone I see...lol, UAB