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RE: Pledge Forms Due Friday at 4PM
This feels like a setup. Let a number amount leak out, give a short amount of time to raise set amount, then when we come in under said amount they get to claim lack of support and if we do somehow raise the amount they can claim that no such amount was ever discussed.

I say just make the announcement tomorrow and let's move on to the next step. Whatever that is.
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05-28-2015 10:19 PM
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The thing is that if it is a setup, everyone and their brother knows what and how he did. If he turns it down all hell is going to break loose.
05-28-2015 10:50 PM
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RE: Pledge Forms Due Friday at 4PM
Yeah, he says June 1st is the deadline for deciding, but it's PR 101 that, to minimize the effect of an announcement, you announce something late on Friday to avoid it being picked up by a news cycle.

So if he will announce football is not returning, it will be Friday.

If he will announce it coming back, it will be on Monday.

The June 1st deadline gives him leeway to make either decision.
05-28-2015 10:51 PM
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RE: Pledge Forms Due Friday at 4PM
(05-28-2015 10:51 PM)antblazer Wrote:  Yeah, he says June 1st is the deadline for deciding, but it's PR 101 that, to minimize the effect of an announcement, you announce something late on Friday to avoid it being picked up by a news cycle.

So if he will announce football is not returning, it will be Friday.

If he will announce it coming back, it will be on Monday.

The June 1st deadline gives him leeway to make either decision.

Friday vs Monday... I think Friday vs Monday is in the eye of the beholder. I think he chooses announcements dates and times based on whether it's good news for him or us.

He shut down the programs on a Tuesday, good news for him, bad for us.
The committee (ATF) was put together on a Friday. Good news for us, not so much for him.
He announced the hiring of Ingram on Friday, I firmly believe still good hire for us, not so good for him.
CSS report leaked on Friday night, good report for us, not so much for him.
So truthfully, the better news for us has come on a Friday. If he wants the world to know that we didn't raise enough money... He will do that Monday. If he has to reverse course, restore the programs and admit he was wrong, that'll probably happen I believe tonight about 10:35 PM.
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05-29-2015 02:28 AM
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05-29-2015 02:58 AM
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RE: Pledge Forms Due Friday at 4PM
(05-29-2015 02:28 AM)ICB Wrote:  
(05-28-2015 10:51 PM)antblazer Wrote:  Yeah, he says June 1st is the deadline for deciding, but it's PR 101 that, to minimize the effect of an announcement, you announce something late on Friday to avoid it being picked up by a news cycle.

So if he will announce football is not returning, it will be Friday.

If he will announce it coming back, it will be on Monday.

The June 1st deadline gives him leeway to make either decision.

Friday vs Monday... I think Friday vs Monday is in the eye of the beholder. I think he chooses announcements dates and times based on whether it's good news for him or us.

He shut down the programs on a Tuesday, good news for him, bad for us.
The committee (ATF) was put together on a Friday. Good news for us, not so much for him.
He announced the hiring of Ingram on Friday, I firmly believe still good hire for us, not so good for him.
CSS report leaked on Friday night, good report for us, not so much for him.
So truthfully, the better news for us has come on a Friday. If he wants the world to know that we didn't raise enough money... He will do that Monday. If he has to reverse course, restore the programs and admit he was wrong, that'll probably happen I believe tonight about 10:35 PM.


Interesting history of timing there. Thanks ICB. I am going with a Monday announcement. Knowing these bumbling fools, DIrect Communications probably hasn't even crafted their announcements yet.
05-29-2015 04:54 AM
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The whole Friday vs. Monday PR mantra is outdated. We live in a 24/7 news cycle. Nothing is missed ever. Twitter, Facebook, and smartphones ensure that.
05-29-2015 06:10 AM
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RE: Pledge Forms Due Friday at 4PM
(05-28-2015 10:01 PM)UABslant Wrote:  
(05-28-2015 07:35 PM)TMcCarty Wrote:  
(05-28-2015 07:32 PM)UABslant Wrote:  
(05-28-2015 05:33 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Well of course there would be a deadline...
I'm sure glad someone around here knows everything... maybe a little heads up next time, Sheldon.

Given a deadline for announcing a decision, is it not obvious there would be a pledge deadline?
Raising millions of dollars takes time and considering we've raised it basically by word of mouth/social media speaks volumes. In a real-world scenario, pledges & donations of our magnitude would be more than enough to make a decision and capital projects don't happen without a capital campaign... there's no magical deadline to build something when you already own the property.

At this point, it feels like not publicly announcing the number or definitive deadline is a play to squeeze as much money as possible out of the fanbase and community... fearmongering. But it's almost like it has been done by both camps.

I'm ready for a resolution.

We've pretty clearly not been living in a real world ever since the decision was announced.
05-29-2015 06:20 AM
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RE: Pledge Forms Due Friday at 4PM
(05-29-2015 06:10 AM)TMcCarty Wrote:  The whole Friday vs. Monday PR mantra is outdated. We live in a 24/7 news cycle. Nothing is missed ever. Twitter, Facebook, and smartphones ensure that.

Very true, but the Watzis have shown a pretty outdated understanding from the start despite the millions poured into PR. Ray clearly ignores PR advice the same way he ignores inconvenient facts.

That's a good point about whose definition of "bad news" we're using. Watts does seem to enjoy presenting himself as a lone heroic crusader striking down the monster that is college football.
05-29-2015 07:01 AM
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If he's going to kill it, I hope he announces it today. That way we'll have time to make good solid plans for the rally Monday night.

Should we hang or burn Ray Watts in effigy? I lean towards burning, myself, it's more video friendly.
05-29-2015 08:47 AM
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(05-29-2015 08:47 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  If he's going to kill it, I hope he announces it today. That way we'll have time to make good solid plans for the rally Monday night.

Should we hang or burn Ray Watts in effigy? I lean towards burning, myself, it's more video friendly.

Pumpkin smashing.
05-29-2015 09:50 AM
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(05-29-2015 09:50 AM)58-56 Wrote:  
(05-29-2015 08:47 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  If he's going to kill it, I hope he announces it today. That way we'll have time to make good solid plans for the rally Monday night.

Should we hang or burn Ray Watts in effigy? I lean towards burning, myself, it's more video friendly.

Pumpkin smashing.

Can we get pumpkins this time of year?
05-29-2015 09:53 AM
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RE: Pledge Forms Due Friday at 4PM
This was included in the UAB eReporter this morning under the INFORMATION section:


"Pledge drive underway to support UAB Athletics
Show your support for UAB Athletics. Download and submit an official gift form to pledge support for the return of football, bowling and rifle."

It is the same form that we submitted.
05-29-2015 09:58 AM
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(05-29-2015 09:58 AM)UAB14 Wrote:  This was included in the UAB eReporter this morning under the INFORMATION section:


"Pledge drive underway to support UAB Athletics
Show your support for UAB Athletics. Download and submit an official gift form to pledge support for the return of football, bowling and rifle."

It is the same form that we submitted.

Welcome to the party, Ray. 04-chairshot
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