Found this on the MWC forum, interview with Aresco and he talks about why the Catholic 7 left, and the reasoning for not give Boise a sweetheart deal.

Boise talks start at 14:00. Really awesome stuff.

Thank you, Kruciff.

I had forgotten about that interview.

It was some really interesting stuff. I think he left alot out when it comes to the C7. I wish this guy had asked more about why he didnt go for a full membership coast to coast conference, instead of ***** footing and doing football only members out west.

I am interested in where he said that they want to renegotiate down the road.... but I didnt like the "and extend". Its too bad he didnt put in extra money for BCS wins, national championships and stuff like that.

Were not too far away from our next negotiations. If everything remains stable and we dont piss off ESPN like last time (thanks Meatball) we could walk away with something decent.

(05-08-2015 11:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  It was some really interesting stuff. I think he left alot out when it comes to the C7. I wish this guy had asked more about why he didnt go for a full membership coast to coast conference, instead of ***** footing and doing football only members out west.

I am interested in where he said that they want to renegotiate down the road.... but I didnt like the "and extend". Its too bad he didnt put in extra money for BCS wins, national championships and stuff like that.

Were not too far away from our next negotiations. If everything remains stable and we dont piss off ESPN like last time (thanks Meatball) we could walk away with something decent.

WRONG! It was the President of Pitt, NOT "Meatball", who pushed the oBE to tell ESPiN to kick rocks. Or, you can continue to believe the lie I bolded. Your choice.

(05-08-2015 11:15 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 11:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  It was some really interesting stuff. I think he left alot out when it comes to the C7. I wish this guy had asked more about why he didnt go for a full membership coast to coast conference, instead of ***** footing and doing football only members out west.

I am interested in where he said that they want to renegotiate down the road.... but I didnt like the "and extend". Its too bad he didnt put in extra money for BCS wins, national championships and stuff like that.

Were not too far away from our next negotiations. If everything remains stable and we dont piss off ESPN like last time (thanks Meatball) we could walk away with something decent.

WRONG! It was the President of Pitt, NOT "Meatball", who pushed the oBE to tell ESPiN to kick rocks. Or, you can continue to believe the lie I bolded. Your choice.

You really need to step back and take some prozac. I am fully aware that Pitt screwed us but Meatball didnt have to go on TV and openly challenge ESPN. He didnt have to do several interviews where he said that he was taking it to market and how ESPN hadnt given us a decent offer.

Meatball didnt handle many things well....including managing Pitt. If he really felt that this was a good offer, he could have sold it to the rest and they could have bypassed Pitt.

So before you call what I said a LIE, just chill out and realize that Meatball wasnt up to the task and got played.... and then he went around and publicly berated the 700 lb gorilla and long time partner of our former conference.

(05-08-2015 11:32 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 11:15 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 11:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  It was some really interesting stuff. I think he left alot out when it comes to the C7. I wish this guy had asked more about why he didnt go for a full membership coast to coast conference, instead of ***** footing and doing football only members out west.

I am interested in where he said that they want to renegotiate down the road.... but I didnt like the "and extend". Its too bad he didnt put in extra money for BCS wins, national championships and stuff like that.

Were not too far away from our next negotiations. If everything remains stable and we dont piss off ESPN like last time (thanks Meatball) we could walk away with something decent.

WRONG! It was the President of Pitt, NOT "Meatball", who pushed the oBE to tell ESPiN to kick rocks. Or, you can continue to believe the lie I bolded. Your choice.

You really need to step back and take some prozac. I am fully aware that Pitt screwed us but Meatball didnt have to go on TV and openly challenge ESPN. He didnt have to do several interviews where he said that he was taking it to market and how ESPN hadnt given us a decent offer.

Meatball didnt handle many things well....including managing Pitt. If he really felt that this was a good offer, he could have sold it to the rest and they could have bypassed Pitt.

So before you call what I said a LIE, just chill out and realize that Meatball wasnt up to the task and got played.... and then he went around and publicly berated the 700 lb gorilla and long time partner of our former conference.

I think that most, probably all, posters on this board know which one of you and the UConn fan is 1) attempting to speak honestly VS 2) a wild nut job attacking everything and everyone associated with the conference.

(05-08-2015 11:32 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 11:15 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 11:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  It was some really interesting stuff. I think he left alot out when it comes to the C7. I wish this guy had asked more about why he didnt go for a full membership coast to coast conference, instead of ***** footing and doing football only members out west.

I am interested in where he said that they want to renegotiate down the road.... but I didnt like the "and extend". Its too bad he didnt put in extra money for BCS wins, national championships and stuff like that.

Were not too far away from our next negotiations. If everything remains stable and we dont piss off ESPN like last time (thanks Meatball) we could walk away with something decent.

WRONG! It was the President of Pitt, NOT "Meatball", who pushed the oBE to tell ESPiN to kick rocks. Or, you can continue to believe the lie I bolded. Your choice.

You really need to step back and take some prozac. I am fully aware that Pitt screwed us but Meatball didnt have to go on TV and openly challenge ESPN. He didnt have to do several interviews where he said that he was taking it to market and how ESPN hadnt given us a decent offer.

Meatball didnt handle many things well....including managing Pitt. If he really felt that this was a good offer, he could have sold it to the rest and they could have bypassed Pitt.

So before you call what I said a LIE, just chill out and realize that Meatball wasnt up to the task and got played.... and then he went around and publicly berated the 700 lb gorilla and long time partner of our former conference.

There is no doubt in my mind that Meatball ran the conference into the ground. In addition to contract issues, there was a two year dialogue about adding football members. Rather than discussing Memphis or UCF, he was set on upgrading Villanova and Georgetown football programs. SMH

(05-09-2015 06:25 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 11:32 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 11:15 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(05-08-2015 11:06 PM)mtmedlin Wrote:  It was some really interesting stuff. I think he left alot out when it comes to the C7. I wish this guy had asked more about why he didnt go for a full membership coast to coast conference, instead of ***** footing and doing football only members out west.

I am interested in where he said that they want to renegotiate down the road.... but I didnt like the "and extend". Its too bad he didnt put in extra money for BCS wins, national championships and stuff like that.

Were not too far away from our next negotiations. If everything remains stable and we dont piss off ESPN like last time (thanks Meatball) we could walk away with something decent.

WRONG! It was the President of Pitt, NOT "Meatball", who pushed the oBE to tell ESPiN to kick rocks. Or, you can continue to believe the lie I bolded. Your choice.

You really need to step back and take some prozac. I am fully aware that Pitt screwed us but Meatball didnt have to go on TV and openly challenge ESPN. He didnt have to do several interviews where he said that he was taking it to market and how ESPN hadnt given us a decent offer.

Meatball didnt handle many things well....including managing Pitt. If he really felt that this was a good offer, he could have sold it to the rest and they could have bypassed Pitt.

So before you call what I said a LIE, just chill out and realize that Meatball wasnt up to the task and got played.... and then he went around and publicly berated the 700 lb gorilla and long time partner of our former conference.

There is no doubt in my mind that Meatball ran the conference into the ground. In addition to contract issues, there was a two year dialogue about adding football members. Rather than discussing Memphis or UCF, he was set on upgrading Villanova and Georgetown football programs. SMH

Agreed...he hosed us all. Except the Catholic 7...in the end they found a soft landing. And that's no surprise because we all know who Meatball's allegiances were to.

I actually posted this video about a year ago and it received almost the same type of comments. I think you can tell the average age of this board by how quickly we forget repostings, ha. The owners of this site need to start advertising Ginkgo Biloba.

(05-09-2015 07:02 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  I actually posted this video about a year ago and it received almost the same type of comments. I think you can tell the average age of this board by how quickly we forget repostings, ha. The owners of this site need to start advertising Ginkgo Biloba.

^^^ It's true.

No, wait. What did you post about?

(05-09-2015 08:09 AM)USFRamenu Wrote:  

(05-09-2015 07:02 AM)baruna falls Wrote:  I actually posted this video about a year ago and it received almost the same type of comments. I think you can tell the average age of this board by how quickly we forget repostings, ha. The owners of this site need to start advertising Ginkgo Biloba.

^^^ It's true.

No, wait. What did you post about?

Well, I admitted to forgetting about it.

So, I saw (1)when it ran on our public television station, (2)when you posted it, and (3)again now. Post it again next year and I'll probably say that I vaguely remember it. :)

What's interesting to me is how much value he seems to put in Boise football and our bball and how little he puts into football. It also seems pretty obvious that we were closer to collapse than we realized and outside of staying in the original big east this will help all of us

(05-10-2015 10:25 AM)Knightbengal Wrote:  What's interesting to me is how much value he seems to put in Boise football and our bball and how little he puts into football. It also seems pretty obvious that we were closer to collapse than we realized and outside of staying in the original big east this will help all of us

I remember the conference being very close to collapse at that time. There was no TV contract. Kustra upon leaving in December claimed there were no bids at all---the AAC had no idea how much money they would make (if any) from media. Rumors popped up daily about UConn and Cinci joining the Big East and going independent. Houston, who more or less had an unofficial MW invite (as did SMU), was very seriously considering the MW. There was also another article (from SI I think) that claimed Cinci and UConn were working together to push the idea of creating a new conference built around those two schools.

Layer the above on top of the fact that we had lost Pitt, Syracuse, TCU, Rutgers, Louisville, and Notre Dame over the prior 6 months. Additionally, Boise and the C7---while part of the AAC, had spent the fall back channeling the networks behind the backs of the AAC leadership, undermining ongoing tv negotiations. Then in December of 2012 the C7 officially bolted. Boise left a few weeks later, leaving SDSU little choice but to leave as well. That's when Houston began looking hard at the MW and the SI article about Cinci/UConn came out. We were a very public mess in early 2013---at the EXACT time Aresco was trying to attract a bid for the conference's media package.

This is why I believe we were so undervalued. We appeared to be teetering on collapse and we were incredibly desperate. Like I said, we were like a home owner facing foreclosure trying to sell his home. We had zero leverage as Aresco knew if he didn't get a media bid quick, additional portions of his conference (if not all of it) would probably melt away. We had no time. We were not in a position to drag the negotiations out or to actively engage other networks. Aresco needed a contract he could sell to the membership---and he needed it quick---or there probably wouldn't have been an AAC.

The absolute BEST thing that could happen to this conference would be for the Big 10 to negotiate their new contract in 2016 and DO NOTHING. (which I think will be the case)

That will signal that there is going to be a good 7-10 years before any realignment happens. ESPN has a history of trying to negotiate early, so we may very well not have to wait till 2019 to get a contract. I tend to think ESPN may throw an extension at us in 2018. I hope we sign only a 7 year again, which would lineup perfectly with the Big 12s contract.

What I am afraid of is that ESPN goes cheap and wants to extend for $3-4 million and we turn them down and go to market... last time we messed with them, only three of us were left. I hope like crazy they send us something we are happy to sign... and I would be thrilled if they would help facilitate a move of some MWC teams and/or BYU into our conference.
Hell, throw us $5 million a piece and help move BYU, CSU, Air Force and Boise into our conference and I am perfectly fine signing until 2024/25. Its not Big Money, but were alive and strong.

(05-10-2015 10:58 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  The absolute BEST thing that could happen to this conference would be for the Big 10 to negotiate their new contract in 2016 and DO NOTHING. (which I think will be the case)

That will signal that there is going to be a good 7-10 years before any realignment happens. ESPN has a history of trying to negotiate early, so we may very well not have to wait till 2019 to get a contract. I tend to think ESPN may throw an extension at us in 2018. I hope we sign only a 7 year again, which would lineup perfectly with the Big 12s contract.

What I am afraid of is that ESPN goes cheap and wants to extend for $3-4 million and we turn them down and go to market... last time we messed with them, only three of us were left. I hope like crazy they send us something we are happy to sign... and I would be thrilled if they would help facilitate a move of some MWC teams and/or BYU into our conference.
Hell, throw us $5 million a piece and help move BYU, CSU, Air Force and Boise into our conference and I am perfectly fine signing until 2024/25. Its not Big Money, but were alive and strong.

If they try to nickle-and-dime us like that, we'd be best to tell 'em to kick rocks and come back in year 5 (or 6?) and talk to us again.

IMO, there should be two digits per team ($10M minimum) before we seriously consider any offer from those a-holes. They screwed us before and I see fans hoping they screw us again. $5m per team.......SMFH!!

(05-10-2015 01:00 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(05-10-2015 10:58 AM)mtmedlin Wrote:  The absolute BEST thing that could happen to this conference would be for the Big 10 to negotiate their new contract in 2016 and DO NOTHING. (which I think will be the case)

That will signal that there is going to be a good 7-10 years before any realignment happens. ESPN has a history of trying to negotiate early, so we may very well not have to wait till 2019 to get a contract. I tend to think ESPN may throw an extension at us in 2018. I hope we sign only a 7 year again, which would lineup perfectly with the Big 12s contract.

What I am afraid of is that ESPN goes cheap and wants to extend for $3-4 million and we turn them down and go to market... last time we messed with them, only three of us were left. I hope like crazy they send us something we are happy to sign... and I would be thrilled if they would help facilitate a move of some MWC teams and/or BYU into our conference.
Hell, throw us $5 million a piece and help move BYU, CSU, Air Force and Boise into our conference and I am perfectly fine signing until 2024/25. Its not Big Money, but were alive and strong.

If they try to nickle-and-dime us like that, we'd be best to tell 'em to kick rocks and come back in year 5 (or 6?) and talk to us again.

IMO, there should be two digits per team ($10M minimum) before we seriously consider any offer from those a-holes. They screwed us before and I see fans hoping they screw us again. $5m per team.......SMFH!!

Dude, you're insane if you think we should tell ESPN to piss off. Do you not remember what happened last time?

Ill refreshen your memory... we used to have this really cool conference called the Big East. Nobody was looking to take any of our teams and everything was pretty settled. The big 12 had lost Nebraska and Colorado but was stable at 10 (from what most people thought...the instability came a little later)
After YEARS of debate, the C7 had finally agreed to allow football to go to 9 and possibly 10. TCU, who was a very attractive candidate had agreed to come on board.

We start negotiations with ESPN and tell them to kick sand when they offered us about $10 million a year. Meatball goes on a tour telling everyone how we can do better and that were going to market.

All of a sudden, the ACC gets real interested in expansion. Nobody else had expanded. They had no real need to and the amount of extra money they got was minimal... but for some crazy reason they take Pitt and Cuse. Two teams they could have had years ago and could have grabbed way later... but for some mysterious reason they needed them...NOW.

Shortly after all of this Boston College comes out and admits that ESPN guided them as to who to take.


Now, do you REALLY want to screw with Mickey Mouse again. Cause that rat really screwed us last time. If we had said yes, our conference would be pretty much the same as it was...maybe minus TCU and would be making considerably more.

I don't know about you all putting the blame on Pitt or Marinnatto...It was USF who screwed the Big East

ACC caught wind that Pitt was looking at the B12. With Cuse and Pitt the ACC thought PSU could be lured away...then Maryland talked to the B1G

(05-11-2015 10:22 AM)chrisiskingx Wrote:  I don't know about you all putting the blame on Pitt or Marinnatto...It was USF who screwed the Big East

Oh please tell us another lie about how South Florida, viciously and spitefully blocked the mighty UCF media darlings from saving the Big East. I just love Fairy Tales.