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Re: RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 12:29 PM)Chappy Wrote: The bottom line is that the plus-one model has put more money in everyone's pocket than the BCS did. Well, everyone except for Cincinnati, Connecticut and South Florida.
East Carolina, Tulsa and Tulane went from sharing $2.9 million 14 ways to sharing $15.2 million 11 ways (soon to be 12).
Houston, Memphis, SMU, Temple and UCF had a brief bump in 13-14, but are still better off than they were for the bulk of the the BCS' existence.
If we could get the damn thing expanded to 8 teams there would be much more money to be made.
Agreed that 8 teams is the magic number.
5 p5 champs.
1 highest ranked g5 champ.
2 at large highest ranked opponent's left out. Doesnt matter if they are p5 or g5.
There is your 8 and everyone is happy.
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 10:25 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (05-04-2015 11:09 PM)FIUFan Wrote: (05-04-2015 10:22 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: Couldn't the same basically be said for the F_U's and perhaps the UNTs?
at least we have markets; what do the back-water UL-X's have going for them....crayfish and swamp-buggies?
Well, since you asked.
Cajun home opener against FCS Southern University
FAU home opener as new member of C-USA
FIU game against P5 Pittsburgh
You guys can keep your markets. We're doing fine with crayfish and swamp-buggies.
+2
So true.
If a tree falls in the woods and no one is around to hear it, does it still make a noise?
If a football game is played in a top 10 market, but no one is there to see it, did it really happen?
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 12:14 PM)Cscollis Wrote: I wasn't beating my chest. Other than GS, sunbelt was terrible this year and GS was only good not great. I don't see any chance for the SBC suckiness to change any time soon. The MAC also was really bad this last year but with NIU they have a chance to be better. When a FCS transition school wins your conference, you know your conference is bad.
2013 CUSA sucked and turned it around in 1 year, I can't see the SBC turning it around unless all the other G5's turn into crap teams all at once.
Idaho and NMSU are temporary. Troy and Georgia State are very much not playing up to what they are capable. I think there is a lot of potential in this conference.
Don't knock the league because Georgia Southern won it. Marshall and Nevada won the MAC and WAC in their first years.
Even with the bottom feeders pulling the conference rating down the CUSA takes a whopping 25k more per school. Whoop Dee doo. That probably wouldn't even cover the extra costs of travel if we joined the CUSA.
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 10:43 AM)FIUFan Wrote: (05-05-2015 10:03 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: To an extent. The g5 as a group gets 75 million to split among the 5 conferences. The g5 agreed to split the money into 3 pools. One pool is divided evenly. It provides 1 million per team to each conference with a cap of 12 million. A second pool of money, 4 million, is given to the conference that wins the G5 access bowl slot (MW this year). Whats left is the third pool of money---about 11 million. This pool is divided by performance. It is divided into 15 equal shares. The top G5 conference gets 5 shares, the second gets 4 shares, third place gets 3 shares, etc...
Well explained, however the G5 pay-out was around $81.1M or about $6M greater than expected. The MW appears to have grabbed the lions-share of that extra cash because according to your formula they were initially entitiled to about $19.7M (12 + 4 + ((11/15)*5)). So they got another $3.8M of the remaining $6M.....wonder how that was determined. Probably got more like $6M for the AB selection; which makes up $2M of the $3.8 in question, then the split got them the rest. Something like that.
The G5 access bowl participant gets 2 million in expense money. Its never been clear to me if that money comes out of the G5 shared money or if it comes out of the CFP funds prior to determining the G5/P5 profit split. If we got 81.1, then the performance pool was about 6 million more than I indicated (17 million or so).
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 01:43 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (05-05-2015 01:19 PM)FIUFan Wrote: (05-05-2015 11:24 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (05-05-2015 11:02 AM)FIUFan Wrote: (05-05-2015 10:53 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote: The Miami paper I lifted the photo from said there were a total of 3,000 human beings at that game.
10,147 was the reported attendance for that game.
I know what the reported attendance was, I was just relaying what the Miami paper said...........that there were 3,000 souls in attendance. Which would you believe? The reported attendance or your lying eyes?
Depends on whether you're using the U of Miami Herald as your source or not.
Okay, ya got me, it was the Miami Herald, sort of. The story where I found the photos is actually out of Kentucky....shortly before you guys played Louisville. Seems they were having some fun at your expense.
Quote:Louisville at FIU -- bring your own potato salad and crowd noise
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) – Want to know what a crowd of 10,147 looks like at an FBS football game?
Me, too. I wish that I could show you. I can't.
What I am showing you are several pictures from the crowd at the football game that Pittsburgh played at Florida International last Saturday. FIU announced that crowd as a gathering of – cough -- 10,147.
If that's the truth, I want the folks from FIU counting the loose change in my desk drawer. I'd have enough for a new top-of-the-line Lexus – or two.
FIU Stadium seats 20,000. Using the school's crowd estimators, a full house would have been closer to 101,470. Instead of 10,147, I'll go with the Miami Herald estimate:
About 3,000.
For a game matching an Atlantic Coast Conference team against a Conference USA program.
http://www.wdrb.com/story/26537522/bozic...rowd-noise
Here's another shot of the crowd during the Pitt game. Dunno FIUFan, the Herald might even have been generous at 3,000.
And how did that affect FIU's and FAU's share of the CFP distribution?
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 12:29 PM)Chappy Wrote: The bottom line is that the plus-one model has put more money in everyone's pocket than the BCS did. Well, everyone except for Cincinnati, Connecticut and South Florida.
This. And even for UC, UConn and USF -- yeah they are worse off compared to 2005-2013, but they are much Much better off than they were at any time prior to 2005.
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 12:32 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: And in 2013 the Sunbelt was at the top of the heap and in one year was terrible as you've said so it can happen to anybody, no? Might be best to just take your own advice.....lets see how we fair this year.......before proclaiming who's going to compete for 2nd versus 3rd. We really don't know.
Remember these gems from your fingers over a year ago? You didn't have a problem projecting greatness for ULL and the 'belt then. Maybe he is just following your lead
(01-24-2014 10:33 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (01-24-2014 10:07 PM)FoUTASportscaster Wrote: From the article:
Quote:Also beginning next season, the highest ranked of those 59 schools -- as decided by the selection committee -- will get an automatic berth in one of the four playoff bowls below the two national semifinals.
Interesting, I was unaware there is going to be a spot for non-AQ teams. Is this legit?
Yes. And in the SB Nation thread, the author of the story, Kirk, has the Cajuns in that slot!!!
Ojala!
(01-25-2014 08:47 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (01-25-2014 08:39 AM)geauxcajuns Wrote: The Sun Belt just needs to continue to have OOC success and schedule wisely. Having 3 body bag games which are all but guaranteed losses really hurts the chance to be the number 1 nonAQ league. If the Belt can repeat this success for a few years the perception will slowly begin to change.
The perception IS changing, yeah, it's slow, but we're headed in the right direction.
First -> Last? that is the right direction?
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 02:45 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote: And how did that affect FIU's and FAU's share of the CFP distribution?
That would be a valid argument if anyone was trying to make that point.
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 03:18 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (05-05-2015 02:45 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote: And how did that affect FIU's and FAU's share of the CFP distribution?
That would be a valid argument if anyone was trying to make that point.
Check the OP jackhole
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 03:18 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (05-05-2015 02:45 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote: And how did that affect FIU's and FAU's share of the CFP distribution?
That would be a valid argument if anyone was trying to make that point.
Well, bringing up attendance in a thread that is about CFP money distribution seems way off topic, but that didn't stop ya.
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 03:19 PM)mturn017 Wrote: (05-05-2015 03:18 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (05-05-2015 02:45 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote: And how did that affect FIU's and FAU's share of the CFP distribution?
That would be a valid argument if anyone was trying to make that point.
Check the OP jackhole
You beat me to it mturn017!
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 03:02 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote: (05-05-2015 12:32 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: And in the SB Nation thread, the author of the story, Kirk, has the Cajuns in that slot!!!
Ojala!
Do you know what ojala means? Where I live it means, something to be wished for but obviously one doesn't believe it to be true.
(05-05-2015 03:02 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote: (01-25-2014 08:47 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote: The perception IS changing, yeah, it's slow, but we're headed in the right direction.
First -> Last? that is the right direction?
Obviously not, though my statement was accurate at the end of the 2013 season and before the 2014 season. The Belt was headed in the right direction. Today, not so much. Just another reason why I think G5 conference chest thumpers might be wise to get a few solid seasons under their belts with this new conference configuration before proclaiming victory.
Next?
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 03:20 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote: (05-05-2015 03:18 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (05-05-2015 02:45 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote: And how did that affect FIU's and FAU's share of the CFP distribution?
That would be a valid argument if anyone was trying to make that point.
Well, bringing up attendance in a thread that is about CFP money distribution seems way off topic, but that didn't stop ya.
I brought it up because an FIU fan asked if we had anything other tan crayfish and swamp-buggies going for us. We do, finally, fan support.
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 03:28 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (05-05-2015 03:02 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote: (05-05-2015 12:32 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: And in the SB Nation thread, the author of the story, Kirk, has the Cajuns in that slot!!!
Ojala!
Do you know what ojala means? Where I live it means, something to be wished for but obviously one doesn't believe it to be true.
(05-05-2015 03:02 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote: (01-25-2014 08:47 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote: The perception IS changing, yeah, it's slow, but we're headed in the right direction.
First -> Last? that is the right direction?
Obviously not, though my statement was accurate at the end of the 2013 season and before the 2014 season. The Belt was headed in the right direction. Today, not so much. Just another reason why I think G5 conference chest thumpers might be wise to get a few solid seasons under their belts with this new conference configuration before proclaiming victory.
Next?
Not so much?! You guys moved from first to last in one season! You were predicting greatness based on this one data point! So, if a fan of a CUSA program wants to talk up his conference after CFP distribution, you have no leg to stand on as the voice of reason.
So put away your soapbox and sit the f--k down.
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 01:43 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: Here's another shot of the crowd during the Pitt game. Dunno FIUFan, the Herald might even have been generous at 3,000.
I was at the game, and trust me, those photos are not taken when we were up 16-0 in the 2nd Q (people started pouring in at that point). And yes, a 12:00 noon start isn't going to see a lot of people in their seats to start the game. Ever see the start of a Heat game (or right after 1/2 time)? and they've sold out for 5 years in a row.
Attendance isn't measured at any particular point in the game but in total. So if you get your rocks off trying to make your brownie points here, knock your socks off. We'll just be thankful we don't share a conference with you anymore.
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 03:37 PM)FIU4Ever Wrote: Not so much?! You guys moved from first to last in one season! You were predicting greatness based on this one data point! So, if a fan of a CUSA program wants to talk up his conference after CFP distribution, you have no leg to stand on as the voice of reason.
So put away your soapbox and sit the f--k down.
Where did I predict greatness? By saying we were headed in the right direction after finishing first among the G4's is predicting greatness?
Okay, have it your way, I will sit down. May I use one of the thousands of empty seats at your place?
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 03:42 PM)FIUFan Wrote: We'll just be thankful we don't share a conference with you anymore.
At least we can agree on that.
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 03:46 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (05-05-2015 03:42 PM)FIUFan Wrote: We'll just be thankful we don't share a conference with you anymore.
At least we can agree on that.
Enjoy your roadtrips to Dothan and Monroe.
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RE: Only one conference made less money with the new CFP.
(05-05-2015 03:52 PM)FIUFan Wrote: (05-05-2015 03:46 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote: (05-05-2015 03:42 PM)FIUFan Wrote: We'll just be thankful we don't share a conference with you anymore.
At least we can agree on that.
Enjoy your roadtrips to Dothan and Monroe.
We certainly did last year.
Look at the bright side my friend. Anytime we can get 66% of FIU's fans to post in a single thread, it's a good day.
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