(04-20-2015 12:31 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Can't you be a little more original? You do realize that you're now guilty of the same plagiarism that Fanatico is don't you? Fanatico used that zinger on me only after I used it on him a week or so earlier. I'll leave it up to everyone to decide for themselves who it is that's obsessed with who. And no, I don't think anything on any message board makes a bit of difference in realignment. The point I was trying to make is that Fanatico has a crappy attitude. He feels that ULL is somehow entitled to special consideration from everybody else. If his is any kind of indication of the attitudes possessed by ULL's administration, good luck getting any kind of a look from any other conference.

I'm not sure what it is you have, but I bet there's medical treatment that can help.

(04-20-2015 06:40 AM)swampbear Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 06:06 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 11:19 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 10:28 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 08:46 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  I honestly don't know how SBC members stomach having ULL in the conference. The delusions of grandeur are non-stop.

Let's see. The guy who comes here constantly thumping his chest about how great it is that LaTech is in the mighty C-USA while the Cajuns were passed over is now lecturing us about delusions of grandeur.



You can't make this stuff up.

No I don't. I only respond to the constant misinformation you spew about Tech and/or Ruston. I stopped saying anything negative about the SBC a long time ago because unlike you, I realize that we all have a whole lot more in common than not. In fact, I've said numerous times that I think the Sun Belt did quite well with adding GA Southern and App St. You're the one that appears to have no respect for the SBC. If every ULL fan thinks like you do, then it is no wonder that you guys were left out of discussions when realignment took place.

Is this guy serious?? I believe that would be the first time, ever, that a school was left out of realignment discussions because of fan behavior on internet message boards.
Oh, and you're obsession with UL is still duly noted.

To all of the above....UL was left behind for one very good reason..... in previous instances where CUSA picked off SBC members.....our Administration never made even a tepid effort to acquire CUSA membership. We can only look in the mirror and blame ourselves. You cannot win the game if you don't get into the game.....

I agree completely. I never quite understood why it's administration felt like ULL wasn't ready to compete for a spot in CUSA. To say the least, that was a bad move on their part.

(04-20-2015 12:31 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 06:06 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 11:19 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 10:28 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 08:46 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  I honestly don't know how SBC members stomach having ULL in the conference. The delusions of grandeur are non-stop.

Let's see. The guy who comes here constantly thumping his chest about how great it is that LaTech is in the mighty C-USA while the Cajuns were passed over is now lecturing us about delusions of grandeur.



You can't make this stuff up.

No I don't. I only respond to the constant misinformation you spew about Tech and/or Ruston. I stopped saying anything negative about the SBC a long time ago because unlike you, I realize that we all have a whole lot more in common than not. In fact, I've said numerous times that I think the Sun Belt did quite well with adding GA Southern and App St. You're the one that appears to have no respect for the SBC. If every ULL fan thinks like you do, then it is no wonder that you guys were left out of discussions when realignment took place.

Is this guy serious?? I believe that would be the first time, ever, that a school was left out of realignment discussions because of fan behavior on internet message boards.
Oh, and you're obsession with UL is still duly noted.

Can't you be a little more original? You do realize that you're now guilty of the same plagiarism that Fanatico is don't you? Fanatico used that zinger on me only after I used it on him a week or so earlier. I'll leave it up to everyone to decide for themselves who it is that's obsessed with who.

How's this for original:

Hey LaTech ********, you need to get a new hobby if you spend this much time on a message board for a conference that your school doesn't even belong to. I'm assuming the "BR" part of your name means you either grew up there and have since moved or you are a current resident that moved from elsewhere. Either way you may want to go see a doctor, because that cesspool you lived or are living in has warped your tiny brain.

Oh and BTW, your memory is pretty crappy and you apparently need to look up the definition of plagiarism. Nice try though. If I didn't think participation trophies were useless, I'd probably give you one right now. You tried so hard little buddy! Good job!

(04-20-2015 04:28 PM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 12:31 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 06:06 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 11:19 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 10:28 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Let's see. The guy who comes here constantly thumping his chest about how great it is that LaTech is in the mighty C-USA while the Cajuns were passed over is now lecturing us about delusions of grandeur.



You can't make this stuff up.

No I don't. I only respond to the constant misinformation you spew about Tech and/or Ruston. I stopped saying anything negative about the SBC a long time ago because unlike you, I realize that we all have a whole lot more in common than not. In fact, I've said numerous times that I think the Sun Belt did quite well with adding GA Southern and App St. You're the one that appears to have no respect for the SBC. If every ULL fan thinks like you do, then it is no wonder that you guys were left out of discussions when realignment took place.

Is this guy serious?? I believe that would be the first time, ever, that a school was left out of realignment discussions because of fan behavior on internet message boards.
Oh, and you're obsession with UL is still duly noted.

Can't you be a little more original? You do realize that you're now guilty of the same plagiarism that Fanatico is don't you? Fanatico used that zinger on me only after I used it on him a week or so earlier. I'll leave it up to everyone to decide for themselves who it is that's obsessed with who.

How's this for original:

Hey LaTech ********, you need to get a new hobby if you spend this much time on a message board for a conference that your school doesn't even belong to. I'm assuming the "BR" part of your name means you either grew up there and have since moved or you are a current resident that moved from elsewhere. Either way you may want to go see a doctor, because that cesspool you lived or are living in has warped your tiny brain.

Oh and BTW, your memory is pretty crappy and you apparently need to look up the definition of plagiarism. Nice try though. If I didn't think participation trophies were useless, I'd probably give you one right now. You tried so hard little buddy! Good job!

He said LaTech ********. Can you say that here?

I still haven't figured out yet what zinger I used on him after he used it on me. He really doesn't zing all that well.

(04-20-2015 04:28 PM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 12:31 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 06:06 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 11:19 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 10:28 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  Let's see. The guy who comes here constantly thumping his chest about how great it is that LaTech is in the mighty C-USA while the Cajuns were passed over is now lecturing us about delusions of grandeur.



You can't make this stuff up.

No I don't. I only respond to the constant misinformation you spew about Tech and/or Ruston. I stopped saying anything negative about the SBC a long time ago because unlike you, I realize that we all have a whole lot more in common than not. In fact, I've said numerous times that I think the Sun Belt did quite well with adding GA Southern and App St. You're the one that appears to have no respect for the SBC. If every ULL fan thinks like you do, then it is no wonder that you guys were left out of discussions when realignment took place.

Is this guy serious?? I believe that would be the first time, ever, that a school was left out of realignment discussions because of fan behavior on internet message boards.
Oh, and you're obsession with UL is still duly noted.

Can't you be a little more original? You do realize that you're now guilty of the same plagiarism that Fanatico is don't you? Fanatico used that zinger on me only after I used it on him a week or so earlier. I'll leave it up to everyone to decide for themselves who it is that's obsessed with who.

How's this for original:

Hey LaTech ********, you need to get a new hobby if you spend this much time on a message board for a conference that your school doesn't even belong to. I'm assuming the "BR" part of your name means you either grew up there and have since moved or you are a current resident that moved from elsewhere. Either way you may want to go see a doctor, because that cesspool you lived or are living in has warped your tiny brain.

Oh and BTW, your memory is pretty crappy and you apparently need to look up the definition of plagiarism. Nice try though. If I didn't think participation trophies were useless, I'd probably give you one right now. You tried so hard little buddy! Good job!

Out of Webster:
Plagiarize- to take (ideas, writings, etc.) from another and offer them as one's own. Plagiarism-n

So yes. You are guilty of plagiarism. Ask Fanatico.

I only respond to lame attacks on La Tech, Ruston , or in this case, me. I do live in Baton Rouge, and I'd say we're doing OK for ourselves here. I went to school at La Tech in Ruston, and I had the time of my life while I was there. Perhaps if you weren't such an inbred moron, you'd get out of Lafayette occasionally and you'd see that there's a whole big world that exists out here. That being said, I do have a lot of good friends that live in Lafayette. In fact, they're all tremendous fans.......... of LSU.

And by the way, cursing is a sign of a poor vocabulary. Perhaps an English course somewhere would be of some help to you.

(04-20-2015 07:14 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 04:28 PM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 12:31 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 06:06 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 11:19 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  No I don't. I only respond to the constant misinformation you spew about Tech and/or Ruston. I stopped saying anything negative about the SBC a long time ago because unlike you, I realize that we all have a whole lot more in common than not. In fact, I've said numerous times that I think the Sun Belt did quite well with adding GA Southern and App St. You're the one that appears to have no respect for the SBC. If every ULL fan thinks like you do, then it is no wonder that you guys were left out of discussions when realignment took place.

Is this guy serious?? I believe that would be the first time, ever, that a school was left out of realignment discussions because of fan behavior on internet message boards.
Oh, and you're obsession with UL is still duly noted.

Can't you be a little more original? You do realize that you're now guilty of the same plagiarism that Fanatico is don't you? Fanatico used that zinger on me only after I used it on him a week or so earlier. I'll leave it up to everyone to decide for themselves who it is that's obsessed with who.

How's this for original:

Hey LaTech ********, you need to get a new hobby if you spend this much time on a message board for a conference that your school doesn't even belong to. I'm assuming the "BR" part of your name means you either grew up there and have since moved or you are a current resident that moved from elsewhere. Either way you may want to go see a doctor, because that cesspool you lived or are living in has warped your tiny brain.

Oh and BTW, your memory is pretty crappy and you apparently need to look up the definition of plagiarism. Nice try though. If I didn't think participation trophies were useless, I'd probably give you one right now. You tried so hard little buddy! Good job!

He said LaTech ********. Can you say that here?

I still haven't figured out yet what zinger I used on him after he used it on me. He really doesn't zing all that well.

Fanatico. Please. You're embarrassing yourself. You're either very forgetful, or you're lying through your teeth. You yourself posted that I "got" you when I posted that "Your obsession with La Tech is duly noted." I guess I could retrieve that post, but I really don't think that's necessary. And by the way, I see you're as capable of cursing as 3406 is. Real Impressive.

(04-20-2015 07:49 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 04:28 PM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 12:31 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 06:06 AM)CajunFan3406 Wrote:  

(04-18-2015 11:19 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  No I don't. I only respond to the constant misinformation you spew about Tech and/or Ruston. I stopped saying anything negative about the SBC a long time ago because unlike you, I realize that we all have a whole lot more in common than not. In fact, I've said numerous times that I think the Sun Belt did quite well with adding GA Southern and App St. You're the one that appears to have no respect for the SBC. If every ULL fan thinks like you do, then it is no wonder that you guys were left out of discussions when realignment took place.

Is this guy serious?? I believe that would be the first time, ever, that a school was left out of realignment discussions because of fan behavior on internet message boards.
Oh, and you're obsession with UL is still duly noted.

Can't you be a little more original? You do realize that you're now guilty of the same plagiarism that Fanatico is don't you? Fanatico used that zinger on me only after I used it on him a week or so earlier. I'll leave it up to everyone to decide for themselves who it is that's obsessed with who.

How's this for original:

Hey LaTech ********, you need to get a new hobby if you spend this much time on a message board for a conference that your school doesn't even belong to. I'm assuming the "BR" part of your name means you either grew up there and have since moved or you are a current resident that moved from elsewhere. Either way you may want to go see a doctor, because that cesspool you lived or are living in has warped your tiny brain.

Oh and BTW, your memory is pretty crappy and you apparently need to look up the definition of plagiarism. Nice try though. If I didn't think participation trophies were useless, I'd probably give you one right now. You tried so hard little buddy! Good job!

Out of Webster:
Plagiarize- to take (ideas, writings, etc.) from another and offer them as one's own. Plagiarism-n

So yes. You are guilty of plagiarism. Ask Fanatico.

I only respond to lame attacks on La Tech, Ruston , or in this case, me. I do live in Baton Rouge, and I'd say we're doing OK for ourselves here. I went to school at La Tech in Ruston, and I had the time of my life while I was there. Perhaps if you weren't such an inbred moron, you'd get out of Lafayette occasionally and you'd see that there's a whole big world that exists out here. That being said, I do have a lot of good friends that live in Lafayette. In fact, they're all tremendous fans.......... of LSU.

And by the way, cursing is a sign of a poor vocabulary. Perhaps an English course somewhere would be of some help to you.

Could you please guide me to my sin of plagiarism? Or just refresh my memory. I still don't have a clue what you're talking about.

BTW, do your Neck friends know that you run with an LSU crowd in Lafayette?

(04-20-2015 07:57 PM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  BTW, do your Neck friends know that you run with an LSU crowd in Lafayette?

Yeah, I threw that little jab in there, but I must admit that we have no room to talk when it comes to having LSU fans in our midst. Every university in Louisiana does. If we couldn't be friends with people simply because they were LSU fans, then we'd all need to move.

(04-20-2015 07:55 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Fanatico. Please. You're embarrassing yourself. You're either very forgetful, or you're lying through your teeth. You yourself posted that I "got" you when I posted that "Your obsession with La Tech is duly noted." I guess I could retrieve that post, but I really don't think that's necessary. And by the way, I see you're as capable of cursing as 3406 is. Real Impressive.

Uh, it think it's you who is embarrassing himself and getting very forgetful or lying through his teeth as I don't recall that supposed conversation. Since you said this happened just a week or so ago, should be easy enough to find the conversation. Please do.

(04-20-2015 12:31 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Can't you be a little more original? You do realize that you're now guilty of the same plagiarism that Fanatico is don't you? Fanatico used that zinger on me only after I used it on him a week or so earlier. I'll leave it up to everyone to decide for themselves who it is that's obsessed with who. And no, I don't think anything on any message board makes a bit of difference in realignment. The point I was trying to make is that Fanatico has a crappy attitude. He feels that ULL is somehow entitled to special consideration from everybody else. If his is any kind of indication of the attitudes possessed by ULL's administration, good luck getting any kind of a look from any other conference.

Ok numbnut. I figured you'd be too lazy to support your claim so I did the work for you. There was a reason I couldn't figure out what the fark you were talking about and it's because you don't know what the fark you're talking about.

Here's what CajunFan3406 (not CajunFanatico) had to say to you:

Quote:Hey, there you are. That one was a real zinger! You got me there!

You're infatuation with the Sun Belt is duly noted.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-730202-post-118...id11870101

And while we're on the subject, I've noticed in the past that you have a bad habit of attributing comments to me that I never said. Here's just one example (another is that second bolded sentence above):

Quote:As I remember it, after you once again lampooned Ruston for being the small college town that everybody already knows that it is, I simply pointed out that Ruston and La Tech were both good enough for the university presidents in CUSA that voted to invite us to join the conference. I also pointed out how ridiculous it is for you to constantly blame Tech for the fact that CUSA passed on adding ULL when La Tech, UTSA, UNT, FIU, MT, FAU, and WKU were all added. It's been three years now. How long is it going to take you to get over that fact?

http://csnbbs.com/thread-733837-post-119...id11961691

For the sake of accuracy, I not only do not CONSTANTLY blame Tech for the fact that CUSA passed on adding ULL, I have never ONCE made that claim and would challenge you to prove me wrong. Don't waste your time though, because you won't find any such evidence.

I have always said that I believed the Cajun program didn't get any interest from C-USA during the last round of realignment because we probably weren't ready. Others have attributed it to the belief that our administration didn't do enough. The truth probably lies in a combination of the two.

Now, if you falsely attribute comments to me, you probably do the same to others. It's one thing to do that on a sports forum where we routinely bust each others nuts, but if you let the habit spill over into your personal or professional life, it'll bite you in the ass some day.

(04-21-2015 08:50 AM)CajunFanatico Wrote:  

(04-20-2015 12:31 PM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Can't you be a little more original? You do realize that you're now guilty of the same plagiarism that Fanatico is don't you? Fanatico used that zinger on me only after I used it on him a week or so earlier. I'll leave it up to everyone to decide for themselves who it is that's obsessed with who. And no, I don't think anything on any message board makes a bit of difference in realignment. The point I was trying to make is that Fanatico has a crappy attitude. He feels that ULL is somehow entitled to special consideration from everybody else. If his is any kind of indication of the attitudes possessed by ULL's administration, good luck getting any kind of a look from any other conference.

Ok numbnut. I figured you'd be too lazy to support your claim so I did the work for you. There was a reason I couldn't figure out what the fark you were talking about and it's because you don't know what the fark you're talking about.

Here's what CajunFan3406 (not CajunFanatico) had to say to you:

Quote:Hey, there you are. That one was a real zinger! You got me there!

You're infatuation with the Sun Belt is duly noted.

http://csnbbs.com/thread-730202-post-118...id11870101

And while we're on the subject, I've noticed in the past that you have a bad habit of attributing comments to me that I never said. Here's just one example (another is that second bolded sentence above):

Quote:As I remember it, after you once again lampooned Ruston for being the small college town that everybody already knows that it is, I simply pointed out that Ruston and La Tech were both good enough for the university presidents in CUSA that voted to invite us to join the conference. I also pointed out how ridiculous it is for you to constantly blame Tech for the fact that CUSA passed on adding ULL when La Tech, UTSA, UNT, FIU, MT, FAU, and WKU were all added. It's been three years now. How long is it going to take you to get over that fact?

http://csnbbs.com/thread-733837-post-119...id11961691

For the sake of accuracy, I not only do not CONSTANTLY blame Tech for the fact that CUSA passed on adding ULL, I have never ONCE made that claim and would challenge you to prove me wrong. Don't waste your time though, because you won't find any such evidence.

I have always said that I believed the Cajun program didn't get any interest from C-USA during the last round of realignment because we probably weren't ready. Others have attributed it to the belief that our administration didn't do enough. The truth probably lies in a combination of the two.

Now, if you falsely attribute comments to me, you probably do the same to others. It's one thing to do that on a sports forum where we routinely bust each others nuts, but if you let the habit spill over into your personal or professional life, it'll bite you in the ass some day.

Help me understand. Is this thread about the case you're trying to build for a sign of affection from JMU, or the inferiority complex you seem to have with La Tech?

(04-21-2015 11:55 AM)2Buck Wrote:  Help me understand. Is this thread about the case you're trying to build for a sign of affection from JMU, or the inferiority complex you seem to have with La Tech?

It's about both my burning desire for JMU's administration to whisper sweet nothings in the Sunbelt's ear and to live in the Ruston metro area after having attended the most prestigious university in Louisiana.

(04-17-2015 12:39 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If I were a JMU fan wanting to see my program in FBS, I'd be on a ledge after the article.

The study the school paid for indicated no effective difference on the balance sheet being MAC, CUSA, or Sun Belt. The admin has made it clear Sun Belt is not acceptable and ran their own internal numbers omitting the Sun Belt to reach the conclusion Carr was paid to find regarding MAC and CUSA yet did not run the Sun Belt internally.

That means JMU has self-limited its options to MAC and CUSA.

The MAC is at 12 and has a TV contract less than a year old that they will not contemplate reopening any time soon. They have made it clear 13 is not a viable number for them. So JMU is not on MAC radar unless the MAC desires to go to 14 members and there has been nothing indicating that is the case.

CUSA is likely headed to 13. If UAB is booted they need a school that can group with UTEP, Rice, USM, UNT, UTSA, La.Tech. No way is JMU that school. If they add JMU their choice are split a good rivalry of teams 100 miles apart (WKU/MTSU), move both of WKU/MTSU to the west and shift USM to the east which pulls WKU and MTSU away from their more natural rivals. Do something utterly stupid and split FIU and FAU. The only way JMU gets in CUSA is if CUSA goes to 16, a proposal the commissioner made previously and by all evidence was roundly rejected.

In the meantime the viable option, the Sun Belt may not remain a viable option much longer. Title game deregulation alleviates the need for 12 members. The rumors continue to swirl that Idaho and maybe NMSU will be informed that their association will terminate in 2017 taking the Sun Belt to 9 football members which rather neatly fits an 8 game slate. Eastern Kentucky is by all accounts working feverishly to address concerns about their hoped for move to FBS and Liberty is as always tweaking their approach. It is no stretch to think that eventually one of those two puts together a palatable package and the Sun Belt will be either at 12 football and 12 hoops (if Idaho and NMSU remain) or 10 football and 12 basketball if the football only are cut loose.

The rumor mill is adamant that there will be at least one team put forward at the spring meetings in Montgomery. If an invitiation is extended (and invites are not extended to schools that have not given assurance they will accept) then any hope for FBS football at JMU rests on CUSA agreeing to expand to 16 members.

If that does not take place prior to July 1, 2016 JMU cannot reclassify without the blessing of a panel comprised of 7 state legislators, in other words, after that date reclassifying becomes much more difficult if it is possible at all.

It is clear that JMU's admin is unaware of the TCU strategy of accept the best deal available today rather than waiting for the deal you really want.

With the pending de-regulation of championship games, divisions won't even matter, so we may not have to split anyone if we added JMU.

(04-21-2015 02:54 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 12:39 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If I were a JMU fan wanting to see my program in FBS, I'd be on a ledge after the article.

The study the school paid for indicated no effective difference on the balance sheet being MAC, CUSA, or Sun Belt. The admin has made it clear Sun Belt is not acceptable and ran their own internal numbers omitting the Sun Belt to reach the conclusion Carr was paid to find regarding MAC and CUSA yet did not run the Sun Belt internally.

That means JMU has self-limited its options to MAC and CUSA.

The MAC is at 12 and has a TV contract less than a year old that they will not contemplate reopening any time soon. They have made it clear 13 is not a viable number for them. So JMU is not on MAC radar unless the MAC desires to go to 14 members and there has been nothing indicating that is the case.

CUSA is likely headed to 13. If UAB is booted they need a school that can group with UTEP, Rice, USM, UNT, UTSA, La.Tech. No way is JMU that school. If they add JMU their choice are split a good rivalry of teams 100 miles apart (WKU/MTSU), move both of WKU/MTSU to the west and shift USM to the east which pulls WKU and MTSU away from their more natural rivals. Do something utterly stupid and split FIU and FAU. The only way JMU gets in CUSA is if CUSA goes to 16, a proposal the commissioner made previously and by all evidence was roundly rejected.

In the meantime the viable option, the Sun Belt may not remain a viable option much longer. Title game deregulation alleviates the need for 12 members. The rumors continue to swirl that Idaho and maybe NMSU will be informed that their association will terminate in 2017 taking the Sun Belt to 9 football members which rather neatly fits an 8 game slate. Eastern Kentucky is by all accounts working feverishly to address concerns about their hoped for move to FBS and Liberty is as always tweaking their approach. It is no stretch to think that eventually one of those two puts together a palatable package and the Sun Belt will be either at 12 football and 12 hoops (if Idaho and NMSU remain) or 10 football and 12 basketball if the football only are cut loose.

The rumor mill is adamant that there will be at least one team put forward at the spring meetings in Montgomery. If an invitiation is extended (and invites are not extended to schools that have not given assurance they will accept) then any hope for FBS football at JMU rests on CUSA agreeing to expand to 16 members.

If that does not take place prior to July 1, 2016 JMU cannot reclassify without the blessing of a panel comprised of 7 state legislators, in other words, after that date reclassifying becomes much more difficult if it is possible at all.

It is clear that JMU's admin is unaware of the TCU strategy of accept the best deal available today rather than waiting for the deal you really want.

With the pending de-regulation of championship games, divisions won't even matter, so we may not have to split anyone if we added JMU.

As a UNCC alum why would you prefer JMU to an established FBS program that has already been through the transition?

(04-21-2015 02:54 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 12:39 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If I were a JMU fan wanting to see my program in FBS, I'd be on a ledge after the article.

The study the school paid for indicated no effective difference on the balance sheet being MAC, CUSA, or Sun Belt. The admin has made it clear Sun Belt is not acceptable and ran their own internal numbers omitting the Sun Belt to reach the conclusion Carr was paid to find regarding MAC and CUSA yet did not run the Sun Belt internally.

That means JMU has self-limited its options to MAC and CUSA.

The MAC is at 12 and has a TV contract less than a year old that they will not contemplate reopening any time soon. They have made it clear 13 is not a viable number for them. So JMU is not on MAC radar unless the MAC desires to go to 14 members and there has been nothing indicating that is the case.

CUSA is likely headed to 13. If UAB is booted they need a school that can group with UTEP, Rice, USM, UNT, UTSA, La.Tech. No way is JMU that school. If they add JMU their choice are split a good rivalry of teams 100 miles apart (WKU/MTSU), move both of WKU/MTSU to the west and shift USM to the east which pulls WKU and MTSU away from their more natural rivals. Do something utterly stupid and split FIU and FAU. The only way JMU gets in CUSA is if CUSA goes to 16, a proposal the commissioner made previously and by all evidence was roundly rejected.

In the meantime the viable option, the Sun Belt may not remain a viable option much longer. Title game deregulation alleviates the need for 12 members. The rumors continue to swirl that Idaho and maybe NMSU will be informed that their association will terminate in 2017 taking the Sun Belt to 9 football members which rather neatly fits an 8 game slate. Eastern Kentucky is by all accounts working feverishly to address concerns about their hoped for move to FBS and Liberty is as always tweaking their approach. It is no stretch to think that eventually one of those two puts together a palatable package and the Sun Belt will be either at 12 football and 12 hoops (if Idaho and NMSU remain) or 10 football and 12 basketball if the football only are cut loose.

The rumor mill is adamant that there will be at least one team put forward at the spring meetings in Montgomery. If an invitiation is extended (and invites are not extended to schools that have not given assurance they will accept) then any hope for FBS football at JMU rests on CUSA agreeing to expand to 16 members.

If that does not take place prior to July 1, 2016 JMU cannot reclassify without the blessing of a panel comprised of 7 state legislators, in other words, after that date reclassifying becomes much more difficult if it is possible at all.

It is clear that JMU's admin is unaware of the TCU strategy of accept the best deal available today rather than waiting for the deal you really want.

With the pending de-regulation of championship games, divisions won't even matter, so we may not have to split anyone if we added JMU.

You still have to fill out a schedule. How do you allocate the 8 games to not screw the west?

(04-21-2015 04:30 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 02:54 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 12:39 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If I were a JMU fan wanting to see my program in FBS, I'd be on a ledge after the article.

The study the school paid for indicated no effective difference on the balance sheet being MAC, CUSA, or Sun Belt. The admin has made it clear Sun Belt is not acceptable and ran their own internal numbers omitting the Sun Belt to reach the conclusion Carr was paid to find regarding MAC and CUSA yet did not run the Sun Belt internally.

That means JMU has self-limited its options to MAC and CUSA.

The MAC is at 12 and has a TV contract less than a year old that they will not contemplate reopening any time soon. They have made it clear 13 is not a viable number for them. So JMU is not on MAC radar unless the MAC desires to go to 14 members and there has been nothing indicating that is the case.

CUSA is likely headed to 13. If UAB is booted they need a school that can group with UTEP, Rice, USM, UNT, UTSA, La.Tech. No way is JMU that school. If they add JMU their choice are split a good rivalry of teams 100 miles apart (WKU/MTSU), move both of WKU/MTSU to the west and shift USM to the east which pulls WKU and MTSU away from their more natural rivals. Do something utterly stupid and split FIU and FAU. The only way JMU gets in CUSA is if CUSA goes to 16, a proposal the commissioner made previously and by all evidence was roundly rejected.

In the meantime the viable option, the Sun Belt may not remain a viable option much longer. Title game deregulation alleviates the need for 12 members. The rumors continue to swirl that Idaho and maybe NMSU will be informed that their association will terminate in 2017 taking the Sun Belt to 9 football members which rather neatly fits an 8 game slate. Eastern Kentucky is by all accounts working feverishly to address concerns about their hoped for move to FBS and Liberty is as always tweaking their approach. It is no stretch to think that eventually one of those two puts together a palatable package and the Sun Belt will be either at 12 football and 12 hoops (if Idaho and NMSU remain) or 10 football and 12 basketball if the football only are cut loose.

The rumor mill is adamant that there will be at least one team put forward at the spring meetings in Montgomery. If an invitiation is extended (and invites are not extended to schools that have not given assurance they will accept) then any hope for FBS football at JMU rests on CUSA agreeing to expand to 16 members.

If that does not take place prior to July 1, 2016 JMU cannot reclassify without the blessing of a panel comprised of 7 state legislators, in other words, after that date reclassifying becomes much more difficult if it is possible at all.

It is clear that JMU's admin is unaware of the TCU strategy of accept the best deal available today rather than waiting for the deal you really want.

With the pending de-regulation of championship games, divisions won't even matter, so we may not have to split anyone if we added JMU.

You still have to fill out a schedule. How do you allocate the 8 games to not screw the west?

For GAWD'S sake, Just don't let App do the scheduling . . . . .

(04-21-2015 04:41 PM)Bobcat87 Wrote:  For GAWD'S sake, Just don't let App do the scheduling . . . . .

All we want is to have every game at home, on every other Saturday, with a mid/late afternoon start, and never on a holiday or a break. Well, that and have all of our opponents literally hike to Boone on only short rest. Too far to hike? Maybe the "footprint" doesn't work for you as much as we would like it to work. Is that too much to ask?

If we must, we'll begrudgingly accept a Friday evening game (but still only on a holiday or a break).

(04-21-2015 03:07 PM)Saint3333 Wrote:  

(04-21-2015 02:54 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-17-2015 12:39 PM)arkstfan Wrote:  If I were a JMU fan wanting to see my program in FBS, I'd be on a ledge after the article.

The study the school paid for indicated no effective difference on the balance sheet being MAC, CUSA, or Sun Belt. The admin has made it clear Sun Belt is not acceptable and ran their own internal numbers omitting the Sun Belt to reach the conclusion Carr was paid to find regarding MAC and CUSA yet did not run the Sun Belt internally.

That means JMU has self-limited its options to MAC and CUSA.

The MAC is at 12 and has a TV contract less than a year old that they will not contemplate reopening any time soon. They have made it clear 13 is not a viable number for them. So JMU is not on MAC radar unless the MAC desires to go to 14 members and there has been nothing indicating that is the case.

CUSA is likely headed to 13. If UAB is booted they need a school that can group with UTEP, Rice, USM, UNT, UTSA, La.Tech. No way is JMU that school. If they add JMU their choice are split a good rivalry of teams 100 miles apart (WKU/MTSU), move both of WKU/MTSU to the west and shift USM to the east which pulls WKU and MTSU away from their more natural rivals. Do something utterly stupid and split FIU and FAU. The only way JMU gets in CUSA is if CUSA goes to 16, a proposal the commissioner made previously and by all evidence was roundly rejected.

In the meantime the viable option, the Sun Belt may not remain a viable option much longer. Title game deregulation alleviates the need for 12 members. The rumors continue to swirl that Idaho and maybe NMSU will be informed that their association will terminate in 2017 taking the Sun Belt to 9 football members which rather neatly fits an 8 game slate. Eastern Kentucky is by all accounts working feverishly to address concerns about their hoped for move to FBS and Liberty is as always tweaking their approach. It is no stretch to think that eventually one of those two puts together a palatable package and the Sun Belt will be either at 12 football and 12 hoops (if Idaho and NMSU remain) or 10 football and 12 basketball if the football only are cut loose.

The rumor mill is adamant that there will be at least one team put forward at the spring meetings in Montgomery. If an invitiation is extended (and invites are not extended to schools that have not given assurance they will accept) then any hope for FBS football at JMU rests on CUSA agreeing to expand to 16 members.

If that does not take place prior to July 1, 2016 JMU cannot reclassify without the blessing of a panel comprised of 7 state legislators, in other words, after that date reclassifying becomes much more difficult if it is possible at all.

It is clear that JMU's admin is unaware of the TCU strategy of accept the best deal available today rather than waiting for the deal you really want.

With the pending de-regulation of championship games, divisions won't even matter, so we may not have to split anyone if we added JMU.

As a UNCC alum why would you prefer JMU to an established FBS program that has already been through the transition?

I don't prefer anyone really. I'd rather keep UAB, even if they drop their football program. If we absolutely have to have a 14th football team, I'd take UMass just so we could keep UAB basketball. My second choice would be UMass for all sports, although that isn't likely to happen. No reason to leave the A10, especially with one of the better CUSA basketball programs likely getting shown the door.

Most of the schools in the Sun Belt haven't really fully been through the transition anyway.

App, GaSo, USA, Texas State, Georgia State, are all extremely new to FBS. JMU wouldn't really be all that far behind.

Really, the only programs in the SBC that have a fair amount of FBS experience are ULL, ULM, and Ark State. I don't think any are realistic CUSA candidates. La Tech would probably block the first two and Ark State doesn't really seem to have interest anyway.

Personally, I'd take App over JMU. App would provide a nice rivalry for Charlotte and Marshall. That said, I did enjoy the home game against JMU last year. They had great fans.

Where's our buddy BR? He seems to have disappeared like a fart at a north Baton Rouge chemical plant.