(04-06-2015 06:46 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  In the last few months, we've had:

1) The lie of "Hands up, don't shoot".
2) Harry Reid admitting he lied about Mitt Romney, and the slime was proud of it.
3) And now Rolling Stone.

Libs just can't help themselves. They'll lie about *anything*.

Don't forget "You can keep your plan and you can keep your doctor". Lying is their lifeblood. Like Dingy Harry, they are proud of their lies when they work. It is what they are about.

(04-06-2015 05:17 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  Fraternity plans lawsuit against Rolling Stone over fake UVA rape story



It is worth noting that in today’s retraction of the UVA gang rape story, Rolling Stone did not apologize to the young men they accused of being rapists. Typical lib scum media.


from NBC News:

Quote:The fraternity at the center of a discredited Rolling Stone article about an alleged gang rape at University of Virginia “plans to pursue all available legal action against the magazine,” it said in a statement. The announcement came a day after the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism released a report finding that the article violated “basic, even routine journalistic practice.”

“The report by Columbia University’s School of Journalism demonstrates the reckless nature in which Rolling Stone researched and failed to verify facts in its article that erroneously accused Phi Kappa Psi of crimes its members did not commit,” Stephen Scipione, President of the Virginia Alpha Chapter of Phi Kappa Psi, said in the statement. “This type of reporting serves as a sad example of a serious decline of journalistic standards.”

“Clearly our fraternity and its members have been defamed, but more importantly we fear this entire episode may prompt some victims to remain in the shadows, fearful to confront their attackers,” Scipione said. “If Rolling Stone wants to play a real role in addressing this problem, it’s time to get serious.”

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/phi-...va-n336541

With Litigation on the horizon, nobody will "apologize" to the Frat or its Members. Lawyers calling the shots on this.

I expect the Housecleaning at RS in about six months once the claims are settled. As for the author of the story, she will be lucky if she gets hired as the ProofReader for The Greensheet.

(04-06-2015 05:26 PM)EagleRockCafe Wrote:  WaPo Fact Checker Declares Girl In Rolling Stone UV Hoax Who Fabricated Story About Being Gang-Raped Is The Top Victim…

And what about the guys who were publicly accused of GANG RAPE?

Quote:Erik Wemple, the Washington Post fact checker, identified “Jackie,” the woman who made up a violent gang rape attack by members of a University of Virginia fraternity, as the top victim of the false Rolling Stone story.

After Wemple effectively examines the complete failure of journalistic standards that led Rolling Stone to publish the fake story, he compiles an “inventory” of the victims in the story near the end of his critique.

The list contains who you’d expect — the falsely accused fraternity, the university, the three friends of the woman who made up the story and were portrayed as more interested in their social standing than a friend who’d been violently gang raped. But the top victim, according to Wemple, was “Jackie,” the woman who made it all up.

http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/06/washin...rape-hoax/

The multiple Settlements on the Duke Lacrosse Case involving multiple Defendants was in the $ 10-12 Million range. But that involved a Private University and actual criminal prosecution.

It would be nice if the lawsuit put Rolling Stone out of business.

That may be expecting too much.

Sadly this whole situation stems from Federal policy. Rape should be investigated by the police. However, federal guidelines have incentivized university mediation of this heinous and horrible crime. This results in punishments that are too harsh for the innocent, and punishments too light for the guilty.

The list of unintended consequences of this misguided federal guideline is limitless.

(04-06-2015 04:54 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  No, it's just that conservative outlets have less outside pressure to remove their hosts. By that I mean, those who watch Fox tend to watch Fox and not CNN/MSNBC/ABC/NBC/etc, so their complaints over removing a Fox anchor won't really affect their viewership. That can't be said on the left, though MSNBC is getting too insular. If someone on CNN messes up, there are just more outlets there to hold their feet to the fire.

TF, does this have to do with Rolling Stoned publishing a completely bullschit article that even has the "victim" now running from the press?

It didn't happen. Plain and simple, same as Duke Lacrosse scandal you leftists so eagerly rushed out to celebrate. DID... NOT.... HAPPEN....

Sorry you're sorry.

Nothing irks libs like the fraternity system. They loathe it.

Probably because they got rejected during Rush Week.

I hope the frat and the university get millions, if not billions, in punitive damages. Won't happen, but I wish it wold.

(04-07-2015 02:37 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-06-2015 04:54 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  No, it's just that conservative outlets have less outside pressure to remove their hosts. By that I mean, those who watch Fox tend to watch Fox and not CNN/MSNBC/ABC/NBC/etc, so their complaints over removing a Fox anchor won't really affect their viewership. That can't be said on the left, though MSNBC is getting too insular. If someone on CNN messes up, there are just more outlets there to hold their feet to the fire.

TF, does this have to do with Rolling Stoned publishing a completely bullschit article that even has the "victim" now running from the press?

It didn't happen. Plain and simple, same as Duke Lacrosse scandal you leftists so eagerly rushed out to celebrate. DID... NOT.... HAPPEN....

Sorry you're sorry.

I hope the true identity of "Jackie" is disclosed and that this psychopath suffers immensely.

(04-07-2015 02:37 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-06-2015 04:54 PM)UCF08 Wrote:  No, it's just that conservative outlets have less outside pressure to remove their hosts. By that I mean, those who watch Fox tend to watch Fox and not CNN/MSNBC/ABC/NBC/etc, so their complaints over removing a Fox anchor won't really affect their viewership. That can't be said on the left, though MSNBC is getting too insular. If someone on CNN messes up, there are just more outlets there to hold their feet to the fire.

TF, does this have to do with Rolling Stoned publishing a completely bullschit article that even has the "victim" now running from the press?

It didn't happen. Plain and simple, same as Duke Lacrosse scandal you leftists so eagerly rushed out to celebrate. DID... NOT.... HAPPEN....

Sorry you're sorry.

For laughs, I visit HuffPost and read the comments. In the article about the Duke-Wisky game, one poster said that (paraphrasing):"...everyone knows that the Duke lax players were guilty of rape but their 1% parents got them top lawyers to beat the charges."

Another posted: "everyone is pulling for Duke because Scott Walker is governor of Wisc."

The pinheads can't agree.

(04-07-2015 06:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I hope the frat and the university get millions, if not billions, in punitive damages. Won't happen, but I wish it wold.

Interesting. I would have you pegged you for one of those in the camp of lawsuit reforms and caps on damages.

(04-07-2015 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 06:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I hope the frat and the university get millions, if not billions, in punitive damages. Won't happen, but I wish it wold.

Interesting. I would have you pegged you for one of those in the camp of lawsuit reforms and caps on damages.

How much money do you think is enough to dissuade journalists and media organizations from doing little to no research and jumping to such drastic and libelous conclusions, spreading them nationwide, for the sake of making lots of money?

Is there a risk involved in lying and defaming people to sell magazines or newspapers or to increase viewership? I sincerely hope so. What's the dollar amount of that risk?

I hope the RS gets put out of business. A continuum of BS and it wouldn't be missed if it went bye bye !!

They do this kind of s - - t all the time.

(04-07-2015 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 06:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I hope the frat and the university get millions, if not billions, in punitive damages. Won't happen, but I wish it wold.

Interesting. I would have you pegged you for one of those in the camp of lawsuit reforms and caps on damages.

I agree with Owl 69/70/75. Otherwise I hope the RS gets put out of business with this "misteak". They do this BS all the time.

(04-07-2015 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 06:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I hope the frat and the university get millions, if not billions, in punitive damages. Won't happen, but I wish it wold.

Interesting. I would have you pegged you for one of those in the camp of lawsuit reforms and caps on damages.

I'm a lot less inclined to cap damages when the "error" was willful and a lie, and the apology wasn't directed to those that were dragged through the mud. This person deserves much more than they'll likely get.

I'm for medical caps on damages except when the doctor does something like amputate the wrong leg - something totally negligent. For making a mistake - not so much.

Facts Matter, Left Sticks To Narrative, Evidence Be Damned…



Because it’s never about the individual case, always about the collective point.

Quote:The verdict’s in on Rolling Stone. According to no less an authority than the Columbia Journalism Review, the magazine’s last year story of a University of Virginia gang rape was a “journalistic failure [that] encompassed reporting, editing, editorial supervision and fact-checking.”

But as with many other stories that don’t fit into the right narrative, the media will continue to draw the wrong lessons.

As an AP article noted, “Despite its flaws, the article heightened scrutiny of campus sexual assaults amid a campaign by President Barack Obama.”

Despite its flaws? You mean despite the fact that as far as anyone can tell, the story was made up out of whole cloth?

Even once the police investigated the claims of the alleged victim, The New York Times reported: “Some saw a more complex picture, saying that the uproar over the story and the steps that the university had taken since in an effort to change its culture had, in the end, raised awareness and probably done the school, and the nation, some good.”

How has the university benefited from the fact that a fraternity has been falsely accused of a horrific crime? And how has the nation benefited from the false but now widespread belief that violent rape, even gang rape, is raging on US campuses?

Wouldn’t it have done more good for people to know that young women are statistically less likely to be attacked on a campus than off of one?

http://nypost.com/2015/04/06/facts-matte...be-damned/

(04-07-2015 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 06:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I hope the frat and the university get millions, if not billions, in punitive damages. Won't happen, but I wish it wold.

Interesting. I would have you pegged you for one of those in the camp of lawsuit reforms and caps on damages.

This wasn't just routine negligence. Rolling Stone acted with malice.

(04-07-2015 12:01 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 10:32 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(04-07-2015 06:26 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I hope the frat and the university get millions, if not billions, in punitive damages. Won't happen, but I wish it wold.

Interesting. I would have you pegged you for one of those in the camp of lawsuit reforms and caps on damages.

This wasn't just routine negligence. Rolling Stone acted with malice.

Did you read the Columbia report?

Quote:The collapse of "A Rape on Campus" does not involve the kinds of fabrication by reporters that have occurred in some other infamous cases of journalistic meltdown. In 2003, the New York Times reporter Jayson Blair resigned after editors concluded that he had invented stories from whole cloth. In February, NBC News suspended anchor Brian Williams after he admitted that he told tall tales about his wartime reporting in Iraq. There is no evidence in Erdely's materials or from interviews with her subjects that she invented facts; the problem was that she relied on what Jackie told her without vetting its accuracy.

Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/feat...z3WeMlpBrc
Follow us: @rollingstone on Twitter | RollingStone on Facebook

Quote:There is no evidence in Erdely's materials or from interviews with her subjects that she invented facts; the problem was that she relied on what Jackie told her without vetting its accuracy.

Confirmation bias. When the story fits the narrative, you assume the accuracy.

(04-06-2015 11:14 AM)fsquid Wrote:  Mind blowing that no one loses their job over that story.

Somebody will hopefully be losing a whole lot of cash though.