Do the one and done kids actually go to class during the spring semester? I know that if I had the talent to go to the NBA, I would forget about the classes and just play basketball.

That certainly has been the case in the past. Kevin Durant for example.

(04-03-2015 12:01 AM)AntiG Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 05:31 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  How about this, to build on what Lou proposed:

- NBA draft eligible at 18
- if you're drafted, you can turn that down to play college basketball, but the drafting team retains your rights unless ...

- if you graduate from college, you're free to sign with any team.

That's a very good idea.

Which is why it probably won't be adopted.

(04-03-2015 08:35 AM)PirateJim Wrote:  Do the one and done kids actually go to class during the spring semester? I know that if I had the talent to go to the NBA, I would forget about the classes and just play basketball.

There are really only a handful of true "one and done" players. That is, players who leave after their first year. There are a significant number who leave after their second or third year with eligibility remaining. There is no evidence that a lot of these kids, in either category, stop going to class after the end of basketball season. If they did, there would be a lot of schools - hoops bluebloods - that would run afoul of APR tests for post season eligibility. Those schools who have had that problem so far did so for reasons other than one and done departures.

I'm growing concerned about a different disturbing trend that seems to be emerging. As schools are losing a growing number of underclassmen to the draft, roster imbalance is becoming more of a problem. I'm seeing more stories about high school juniors reclassifying to enter college early and fill roster spots vacated by early departures. One such story had Duke recruiting a junior point guard because their 2015-16 team won't have a true point guard if Tyus Jones goes to the NBA and all the top senior point guards have already signed LOI's.

It's bad enough so many kids aren't getting a true college experience. If they don't even get the complete high school experience either, how unfortunate is that?

I don't really see what school's can do, its a NBA decision. I'm surprised the current NBA players don't want a higher age limit like 21 or 20 to have a bigger pool for themselves. Also, think every NBA teams should have an NBDL team.

(04-13-2015 02:09 PM)bluesox Wrote:  I don't really see what school's can do, its a NBA decision. I'm surprised the current NBA players don't want a higher age limit like 21 or 20 to have a bigger pool for themselves. Also, think every NBA teams should have an NBDL team.

One problem with the DL now is that it's not a financially attractive option for a kid coming out of high school. These guys barely earn enough to support themselves on an NBDL salary. If money to support their family is a consideration in going pro early, this isn't the way. They have to go overseas.

If every NBA team had its own DL farm team, that problem would likely only get worse.

The NBA should have taken over the CBA.

Additionally, they should have put Isiah Thomas in charge of it.

(04-02-2015 03:51 PM)YNot Wrote:  Isn't the middle ground to remove the age restriction, but add a requirement that if a player chooses college, he must stay for at least two (or three) years? (ie, can't be drafted or sign an NBA contract until the 2-3 year period expires)

Too simple?

That's basically the baseball rule, but I bet it wouldn't survive a court challenge. There's just not the same amount of money for baseball players.

(04-13-2015 01:49 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(04-03-2015 08:35 AM)PirateJim Wrote:  Do the one and done kids actually go to class during the spring semester? I know that if I had the talent to go to the NBA, I would forget about the classes and just play basketball.

There are really only a handful of true "one and done" players. That is, players who leave after their first year. There are a significant number who leave after their second or third year with eligibility remaining. There is no evidence that a lot of these kids, in either category, stop going to class after the end of basketball season. If they did, there would be a lot of schools - hoops bluebloods - that would run afoul of APR tests for post season eligibility. Those schools who have had that problem so far did so for reasons other than one and done departures.

I'm growing concerned about a different disturbing trend that seems to be emerging. As schools are losing a growing number of underclassmen to the draft, roster imbalance is becoming more of a problem. I'm seeing more stories about high school juniors reclassifying to enter college early and fill roster spots vacated by early departures. One such story had Duke recruiting a junior point guard because their 2015-16 team won't have a true point guard if Tyus Jones goes to the NBA and all the top senior point guards have already signed LOI's.

It's bad enough so many kids aren't getting a true college experience. If they don't even get the complete high school experience either, how unfortunate is that?

Actually its become unusual for a true star to stay for his senior season. Most who can leave after their junior year.

(04-03-2015 08:50 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  That certainly has been the case in the past. Kevin Durant for example.

Well he's gone back and is working on his degree.

That is the good thing about one and done going back to school. Life would be pretty good to be a 30 year old with NBA millions in the bank and your back as a college student. Of course, life is probably pretty good for star basketball players on campus.

(04-02-2015 03:59 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(04-02-2015 03:51 PM)YNot Wrote:  Isn't the middle ground to remove the age restriction, but add a requirement that if a player chooses college, he must stay for at least two (or three) years? (ie, can't be drafted or sign an NBA contract until the 2-3 year period expires)

Too simple?

I think it's a nice try, but I don't see how the NBA can enforce that on its end.

The test for discrimination is: A) was it an arbitrary choice?, B) was it in the interest of the business?

Sure it could. If it is collectively bargained, outsiders have no say. That is why MLB has this rule. That said...

(04-02-2015 06:39 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Actually there is becoming more of a push from the Professional ranks for there to be new NBA rules in regards to the age of players allowed to enter the draft. The arms race has gotten very costly for these teams. They are picking up guys well before they are ready simply because they know that if they don't, someone else will. Many of these younger players are not ready at year 1 or even year 2 but these GM's know that if they want to remain competitive that they have to eat these up front costs because if they don't then someone else will.

A general NBA rule that pushes back the Age of Entry would save these teams quite a bit of money.

This the key. All of these solutions fail to notice there is no benefit to the NBA for most of these suggestions. They were drafting players because they had too (HS players represented the generally most talented players in a class), even if they were not ready at the time.