(03-25-2015 10:37 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The last time you hired a former pig legend went so well for you guys...

No it didn't go very well. But, it's like saying you guys would never hire a basketball coach from LSU again. I would agree if Walker was another pig legend with no coaching experience. Walker has a ton of experience coaching at various levels of the game. Would he be successful as a college coach at UALR? Who knows. But for a program with one NCAA appearance in the past 25 years I don't know if there are any sure bets out there. When you guys hired Brady, I thought it was a slam dunk hire. Didn't turn out that way, although I also don't think he has been as terrible as most ASU fans seem to believe.

Walker has ZERO coaching experience at the college level. ZERO! That is no coaching experience that counts to me. High School and the NBA are just totally different than college. Period. End of story. Or it should be!

(03-25-2015 10:37 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The last time you hired a former pig legend went so well for you guys...

No it didn't go very well. But, it's like saying you guys would never hire a basketball coach from LSU again. I would agree if Walker was another pig legend with no coaching experience. Walker has a ton of experience coaching at various levels of the game. Would he be successful as a college coach at UALR? Who knows. But for a program with one NCAA appearance in the past 25 years I don't know if there are any sure bets out there. When you guys hired Brady, I thought it was a slam dunk hire. Didn't turn out that way, although I also don't think he has been as terrible as most ASU fans seem to believe.

Yes, but you should also look at recent history when it comes to bringing in Pig products as a head coach when they have zero coaching experience.

The college game is a very difficult game to adjust to for even the best coaches, but bringing someone who has never once had to even recruit an athlete, and handing them a head coaching job has a much smaller success rate than hiring an experienced college assistant.

Walker would be like Moncrief, a hire to bring fans in. It could work brilliantly, but if it fails, you could have one of the worst seasons in program history, and have to start over again.

There would be riots in Jonesboro if we tried to hire Walker...I'd rather take my chances on flopping with John Brady, than flopping on a guy with zero coaching experience.

(03-25-2015 10:44 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:37 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The last time you hired a former pig legend went so well for you guys...

No it didn't go very well. But, it's like saying you guys would never hire a basketball coach from LSU again. I would agree if Walker was another pig legend with no coaching experience. Walker has a ton of experience coaching at various levels of the game. Would he be successful as a college coach at UALR? Who knows. But for a program with one NCAA appearance in the past 25 years I don't know if there are any sure bets out there. When you guys hired Brady, I thought it was a slam dunk hire. Didn't turn out that way, although I also don't think he has been as terrible as most ASU fans seem to believe.

Walker has ZERO coaching experience at the college level. ZERO! That is no coaching experience that counts to me. High School and the NBA are just totally different than college. Period. End of story. Or it should be!

I'd be more concerned about his lack of head coaching experience. He'd have to try and come in and organize a recruiting class, without ever once recruiting at the college level. That's a dangerous game that could lead to NCAA violations.

If you're going to hire a former pig player, hire Kleine...at least he's recruited at the D1 level before, and has been an assistant at the college level.

(03-25-2015 10:52 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:44 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:37 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The last time you hired a former pig legend went so well for you guys...

No it didn't go very well. But, it's like saying you guys would never hire a basketball coach from LSU again. I would agree if Walker was another pig legend with no coaching experience. Walker has a ton of experience coaching at various levels of the game. Would he be successful as a college coach at UALR? Who knows. But for a program with one NCAA appearance in the past 25 years I don't know if there are any sure bets out there. When you guys hired Brady, I thought it was a slam dunk hire. Didn't turn out that way, although I also don't think he has been as terrible as most ASU fans seem to believe.

Walker has ZERO coaching experience at the college level. ZERO! That is no coaching experience that counts to me. High School and the NBA are just totally different than college. Period. End of story. Or it should be!

I'd be more concerned about his lack of head coaching experience. He'd have to try and come in and organize a recruiting class, without ever once recruiting at the college level. That's a dangerous game that could lead to NCAA violations.

If you're going to hire a former pig player, hire Kleine...at least he's recruited at the D1 level before, and has been an assistant at the college level.

If those were the two choices, Kline would be the choice by a country mile!

(03-25-2015 10:44 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:37 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The last time you hired a former pig legend went so well for you guys...

No it didn't go very well. But, it's like saying you guys would never hire a basketball coach from LSU again. I would agree if Walker was another pig legend with no coaching experience. Walker has a ton of experience coaching at various levels of the game. Would he be successful as a college coach at UALR? Who knows. But for a program with one NCAA appearance in the past 25 years I don't know if there are any sure bets out there. When you guys hired Brady, I thought it was a slam dunk hire. Didn't turn out that way, although I also don't think he has been as terrible as most ASU fans seem to believe.

Walker has ZERO coaching experience at the college level. ZERO! That is no coaching experience that counts to me. High School and the NBA are just totally different than college. Period. End of story. Or it should be!

Seems like coaching in the NBA is a lot more difficult than coaching in college if you look at the great college coaches who have totally flopped in the NBA- to name just a few- Petino, Calipari, Tim Floyd, Lon Kruger, Mike Montgomery, and PJ Carlisamo. Hiring a coach with Walker's knowledge and experience in the basketball world would be truly amazing. Will it happen? Who knows.

(03-25-2015 10:58 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:44 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:37 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The last time you hired a former pig legend went so well for you guys...

No it didn't go very well. But, it's like saying you guys would never hire a basketball coach from LSU again. I would agree if Walker was another pig legend with no coaching experience. Walker has a ton of experience coaching at various levels of the game. Would he be successful as a college coach at UALR? Who knows. But for a program with one NCAA appearance in the past 25 years I don't know if there are any sure bets out there. When you guys hired Brady, I thought it was a slam dunk hire. Didn't turn out that way, although I also don't think he has been as terrible as most ASU fans seem to believe.

Walker has ZERO coaching experience at the college level. ZERO! That is no coaching experience that counts to me. High School and the NBA are just totally different than college. Period. End of story. Or it should be!

Seems like coaching in the NBA is a lot more difficult than coaching in college if you look at the great college coaches who have totally flopped in the NBA- to name just a few- Petino, Calipari, Tim Floyd, Lon Kruger, Mike Montgomery, and PJ Carlisamo. Hiring a coach with Walker's knowledge and experience in the basketball world would be truly amazing. Will it happen? Who knows.

OK. Name me one head or assistant NBA coach who had no previous college coaching experience who became a college coach and was successful.

(03-25-2015 11:02 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:58 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:44 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:37 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:29 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  The last time you hired a former pig legend went so well for you guys...

No it didn't go very well. But, it's like saying you guys would never hire a basketball coach from LSU again. I would agree if Walker was another pig legend with no coaching experience. Walker has a ton of experience coaching at various levels of the game. Would he be successful as a college coach at UALR? Who knows. But for a program with one NCAA appearance in the past 25 years I don't know if there are any sure bets out there. When you guys hired Brady, I thought it was a slam dunk hire. Didn't turn out that way, although I also don't think he has been as terrible as most ASU fans seem to believe.

Walker has ZERO coaching experience at the college level. ZERO! That is no coaching experience that counts to me. High School and the NBA are just totally different than college. Period. End of story. Or it should be!

Seems like coaching in the NBA is a lot more difficult than coaching in college if you look at the great college coaches who have totally flopped in the NBA- to name just a few- Petino, Calipari, Tim Floyd, Lon Kruger, Mike Montgomery, and PJ Carlisamo. Hiring a coach with Walker's knowledge and experience in the basketball world would be truly amazing. Will it happen? Who knows.

OK. Name me one head or assistant NBA coach who had no previous college coaching experience who became a college coach and was successful.

Not sure why an NBA head coach would ever consider moving down to the college level, so know I don't have many examples. Former NBA Minnesota Timberwolves coach, Bill Musselman returned to the NCAA after a 25-year absence and led the Jaguars to back-to-back NCAA tournament bids in his two years as coach. I guess we'll see how former NBA coach Eric Musselman does at his new job at Nevada.

(03-25-2015 09:47 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 09:11 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  It's now between Darrell and Mark Downey!

I haven't seen any indication that Mark Downey is in the mix. Outside, do you have some inside information?

No. Just making conversation.

(03-25-2015 11:12 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:02 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:58 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:44 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:37 PM)mjs Wrote:  No it didn't go very well. But, it's like saying you guys would never hire a basketball coach from LSU again. I would agree if Walker was another pig legend with no coaching experience. Walker has a ton of experience coaching at various levels of the game. Would he be successful as a college coach at UALR? Who knows. But for a program with one NCAA appearance in the past 25 years I don't know if there are any sure bets out there. When you guys hired Brady, I thought it was a slam dunk hire. Didn't turn out that way, although I also don't think he has been as terrible as most ASU fans seem to believe.

Walker has ZERO coaching experience at the college level. ZERO! That is no coaching experience that counts to me. High School and the NBA are just totally different than college. Period. End of story. Or it should be!

Seems like coaching in the NBA is a lot more difficult than coaching in college if you look at the great college coaches who have totally flopped in the NBA- to name just a few- Petino, Calipari, Tim Floyd, Lon Kruger, Mike Montgomery, and PJ Carlisamo. Hiring a coach with Walker's knowledge and experience in the basketball world would be truly amazing. Will it happen? Who knows.

OK. Name me one head or assistant NBA coach who had no previous college coaching experience who became a college coach and was successful.

Not sure why an NBA head coach would ever consider moving down to the college level, so know I don't have many examples. Former NBA Minnesota Timberwolves coach, Bill Musselman returned to the NCAA after a 25-year absence and led the Jaguars to back-to-back NCAA tournament bids in his two years as coach. I guess we'll see how former NBA coach Eric Musselman does at his new job at Nevada.

There is a reason NBA coaches don't go to the college game. It's because if they are any good at their NBA job, the college game isn't that attractive- specifically because of the pay differential. Maybe that should give one pause about someone wanting to go in that direction.

(03-25-2015 11:16 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:12 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:02 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:58 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:44 PM)PTJR Wrote:  Walker has ZERO coaching experience at the college level. ZERO! That is no coaching experience that counts to me. High School and the NBA are just totally different than college. Period. End of story. Or it should be!

Seems like coaching in the NBA is a lot more difficult than coaching in college if you look at the great college coaches who have totally flopped in the NBA- to name just a few- Petino, Calipari, Tim Floyd, Lon Kruger, Mike Montgomery, and PJ Carlisamo. Hiring a coach with Walker's knowledge and experience in the basketball world would be truly amazing. Will it happen? Who knows.

OK. Name me one head or assistant NBA coach who had no previous college coaching experience who became a college coach and was successful.

Not sure why an NBA head coach would ever consider moving down to the college level, so know I don't have many examples. Former NBA Minnesota Timberwolves coach, Bill Musselman returned to the NCAA after a 25-year absence and led the Jaguars to back-to-back NCAA tournament bids in his two years as coach. I guess we'll see how former NBA coach Eric Musselman does at his new job at Nevada.

There is a reason NBA coaches don't go to the college game. It's because if they are any good at their NBA job, the college game isn't that attractive- specifically because of the pay differential. Maybe that should give one pause about someone wanting to go in that direction.

Darrell has a home in Little Rock- that alone makes this job pretty darn attractive.

He would be a bust imho.

(03-26-2015 04:56 AM)insideualr Wrote:  He would be a bust imho.

This is Chasse's chance to show Fayetteville that we're not tied to them and don't need ex-Razorbacks coaching to have a successful program.
Do you think Wichita State or Louisville would hire an ex Kansas or Kentucky player to coach their teams, just to appease some local fans. Of course if that player was a proven coach, I wouldn't expect them to hold it against that coach.

This is Little Rock, not Fayetteville South, and especially folks in Little Rock, wealthy and otherwise, need to start showing some pride in their hometown program. With that said, if Chasse believes Darrell or Joe is our best available choice, that's fine. But I hate to see him pressured by people who obviously don't have the best interest of the UALR program at heart or they wouldn't be insistent on hiring ex Hogs.

(03-25-2015 11:19 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:16 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:12 PM)mjs Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:02 PM)PTJR Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:58 PM)mjs Wrote:  Seems like coaching in the NBA is a lot more difficult than coaching in college if you look at the great college coaches who have totally flopped in the NBA- to name just a few- Petino, Calipari, Tim Floyd, Lon Kruger, Mike Montgomery, and PJ Carlisamo. Hiring a coach with Walker's knowledge and experience in the basketball world would be truly amazing. Will it happen? Who knows.

OK. Name me one head or assistant NBA coach who had no previous college coaching experience who became a college coach and was successful.

Not sure why an NBA head coach would ever consider moving down to the college level, so know I don't have many examples. Former NBA Minnesota Timberwolves coach, Bill Musselman returned to the NCAA after a 25-year absence and led the Jaguars to back-to-back NCAA tournament bids in his two years as coach. I guess we'll see how former NBA coach Eric Musselman does at his new job at Nevada.

There is a reason NBA coaches don't go to the college game. It's because if they are any good at their NBA job, the college game isn't that attractive- specifically because of the pay differential. Maybe that should give one pause about someone wanting to go in that direction.

Darrell has a home in Little Rock- that alone makes this job pretty darn attractive.

Oliver Fitzpatrick, the Little Rock Central High coach has a home in Little Rock too. But, like Walker, he doesn't have any college coaching experience either, but has many years as a high school coach. Does that mean he is qualified for our job? Oh wait, he did apply to be the head coach at Kentucky one time! Kentucky didn't bite.

Wally Hall mentioned Walker as a candidate in his column today. That means he has no chance of getting the job now.

Walker would be a bust

(03-26-2015 10:46 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Wally Hall mentioned Walker as a candidate in his column today. That means he has no chance of getting the job now.

I think Walker would be perfect at this point in time. We have basically our whole team back. So he just has to re-recruit the guys that are already here. Should be an easy sell for an NBA guy, especially since almost all our returning players are either seniors or have already taken a redshirt year. I have no doubt he can "coach" basketball- he's been a head coach in the CBA, NBA, and WNBA. Basketball is still basketball. He simply needs to hire some good assistants with college experience. Wes Flanigan, after stints at Nebraska and MissSt, is looking for a job. There are a ton of other qualified folks, with experience, who would love to be assistants at UALR.

Why are we so negative about Darrell Walker. He was a great player. Played for a hall of fame coach, Eddie Sutton. Played in the league. Was a great defensive player. And coached in the league, both as a head coach and an assistant. I think the only reason he didn't the job originally was because he didn't have a degree. Now he does, and he has even more coaching experience. I've heard coaches say that if you can coach, you can coach.

Now the one thing that will have to take place is he'll have to pass the test to be able to recruit. I don't know how long that takes, but that's a hang up if he hasn't already done that. I think the advantage he might have over Joe is that he isn't connected to our regime that just ended. He would give us a fresh start. And I don't think you can compare him with Sidney. As I recall, Sidney hadn't coached at any level, and he did bring in some good recruits that helped Porter be somewhat successful.

I can't swear how Darrell would do, but I think he would give us the completely fresh start we all wanted, and yet bring the aura of the ex Razorback All American to enhance the image of the program in Central Arkansas. It is an interesting possibility.

(03-26-2015 01:15 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  Why are we so negative about Darrell Walker. He was a great player. Played for a hall of fame coach, Eddie Sutton. Played in the league. Was a great defensive player. And coached in the league, both as a head coach and an assistant. I think the only reason he didn't the job originally was because he didn't have a degree. Now he does, and he has even more coaching experience. I've heard coaches say that if you can coach, you can coach.

Now the one thing that will have to take place is he'll have to pass the test to be able to recruit. I don't know how long that takes, but that's a hang up if he hasn't already done that. I think the advantage he might have over Joe is that he isn't connected to our regime that just ended. He would give us a fresh start. And I don't think you can compare him with Sidney. As I recall, Sidney hadn't coached at any level, and he did bring in some good recruits that helped Porter be somewhat successful.

I can't swear how Darrell would do, but I think he would give us the completely fresh start we all wanted, and yet bring the aura of the ex Razorback All American to enhance the image of the program in Central Arkansas. It is an interesting possibility.

Not sure who "we" is. I was 100% for him 16 years ago, but feel stronger about it now. He is more experienced, more mature, and has a college degree. I think Chasse and Fogler will thoroughly vet Coach Walker, but if he comes through "clean", I think he has a good chance of getting the job.

If he's the guy, then I'd love to see him on the sidelines coaching the Trojans. I just don't want it to be because someone with money wants to be the kingmaker. Buy your tickets, donate your money, and let the AD do his job. That's why he's the AD and you're not!

(03-26-2015 01:29 PM)outsideualr Wrote:  If he's the guy, then I'd love to see him on the sidelines coaching the Trojans. I just don't want it to be because someone with money wants to be the kingmaker. Buy your tickets, donate your money, and let the AD do his job. That's why he's the AD and you're not!

Money is what college sports are all about these days. On one hand, I like the fact that UALR is not the multi-million dollar business that most college athletic departments have become. Still, we have to at least listen if some powerful people in the community are finally ready to provide UALR the financial support we need to be successful.