(03-25-2015 10:53 AM)memphissince86 Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:10 AM)roundhouse74 Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:01 AM)tigersgrizzfan Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 09:55 AM)hopeum Wrote:  Who took more than a decade? Is that the lone exception out of thousands of coaches? This is a broken record, Pastner will not be uber successful just because 1 or 2 out of hundreds of other coaches took a lot of time to develop. The evidence actually points to the contrary, isn't there terminology for this?

man just stop it...people don't want hear this LOL!

.. all this "to soon" talk, in what life does a coach get 7 years to "Learn" how to coach...only CJP get break after break. It makes no sense!!

The problem you have is that it hasn't been viewed as 7 years of steady decline by most outsiders. If you were an outsider and looked at Pastner's record, you'd see 5 years of modest improvement (finally beat top 25 team, finally won in the NCAA, etc.) and then one down year. Apparently, those who have the $ to make a change must either a) think Pastner can turn it around or b) just not want to spend their $ on buying him out and paying another coach. In the meantime, we should continue to bash on the boards and to our friends, because it can only help the program.

That's funny, I see disappointment and underachievement in the last 4 of his 6yrs. Others see modest improvement.

Those things are not mutually exclusive.

(03-25-2015 11:22 AM)tiger2000 Wrote:  I have a more important question. If pastner leaves or is fired, will the board polarity reverse? Will the sunshine pumpers become miserables and miserables become sunshine pumpers?

Mentally labelling every single poster is already exhausting enough.

I'm a tiger.
I'm all in with whomever our next coach is.
If it's Bruce Pearl or Josh Pastner or Jeb Bush... THAT is MY COACH and I'm ALL IN.

That is what REAL fans do.

~THE wb

(03-25-2015 11:24 AM)Willie Becton Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 11:22 AM)tiger2000 Wrote:  I have a more important question. If pastner leaves or is fired, will the board polarity reverse? Will the sunshine pumpers become miserables and miserables become sunshine pumpers?

Mentally labelling every single poster is already exhausting enough.

I'm a tiger.
I'm all in with whomever our next coach is.
If it's Bruce Pearl or Josh Pastner or Jeb Bush... THAT is MY COACH and I'm ALL IN.

That is what REAL fans do.

~THE wb

Saying that its time for a change, doesn't change any of what you stated as being a real fan.

(03-25-2015 11:03 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(03-25-2015 10:34 AM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 09:09 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  I keep hearing this line about coaches being scared away if Pastner is fired too soon. This may be true in general, but Pastner is an exception. There is a perception that Pastner is inexperienced and has underperformed considering the talent and resources he has.

While it may be true that few would want to have followed Cal, following Pastner would be a gem in the eyes of many coaches.

It's worse to wait imo. If this keeps up we become DePaul

Are we a top 20 program where anyone can win quickly or DePaul? You seem confused.

LMAO

We ain't a top 20 program under this coach. No confusion on that whatsoever. How long before your next apology thread?

(03-24-2015 11:42 PM)Timmy989 Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 09:09 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  I keep hearing this line about coaches being scared away if Pastner is fired too soon. This may be true in general, but Pastner is an exception. There is a perception that Pastner is inexperienced and has underperformed considering the talent and resources he has.

While it may be true that few would want to have followed Cal, following Pastner would be a gem in the eyes of many coaches.

The perception you speak of is just fan based. How do you know that coaches don't respect him? Most of the things I have heard talk about how amazed coaches were that he held Memphis together after Cal leaving and what a tough spot it was

Note Travis Ford's response after his lost to Memphis last year. It was shear disbelief and lack of respect. None of that "they are a well-coached team" talk.

(03-25-2015 07:29 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 11:42 PM)Timmy989 Wrote:  

(03-24-2015 09:09 PM)Memp400Kng Wrote:  I keep hearing this line about coaches being scared away if Pastner is fired too soon. This may be true in general, but Pastner is an exception. There is a perception that Pastner is inexperienced and has underperformed considering the talent and resources he has.

While it may be true that few would want to have followed Cal, following Pastner would be a gem in the eyes of many coaches.

The perception you speak of is just fan based. How do you know that coaches don't respect him? Most of the things I have heard talk about how amazed coaches were that he held Memphis together after Cal leaving and what a tough spot it was

Note Travis Ford's response after his lost to Memphis last year. It was shear disbelief and lack of respect. None of that "they are a well-coached team" talk.

link?