Wilkie01 Wrote:They are father and son, and first cousins! lmfao lmfao lmfao

And their favorite song is the theme song from the movie "Deliverance". lmfao lmfao :band: :kiss: :kyle:

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I just want to repeat that it's a misconception that NAVY refused a BIGEAST invitation. NAVY did not receive an invitation.

Jim

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Army and Navy are a mystery to me. You have Air Force more than capable to compete in football AND basketball. Those teams made it to post season regularly. I guess the Big East Football schools simply far superior than MWC schools. Or Air Force is better in producing superior athletes than Army and Navy.

EvilVodka Wrote:Hey, Maize, go check this link out:

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No argument, Louisville has a very shaky past and Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas has great tradition BUT that still doesn't matter. In 2006 the Big XII was horrible and like the ACC behind the Big East in performance in Football and Basketball and it looks like it will be behind the Big East in 2007. This is from Big XII homer Dennis Dodd Early Top 25 for 2007. Notice once again the ACC and Big XII are behind the Big East in football. No need to even get into the Basketball since we already know Big East Basketball is superior to ACC and Big XII hoops.

Spring Top 25: Dear Mr. Dellins -- your Bruins are here
March 26, 2007
By Dennis Dodd
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer
Tell Dennis your opinion!

The Bruins are in!

You knew that, and you didn't know that. Final Four? Sure. The Spring Top 25? Let's just say I am making Marc Dellins' day. Dellins is the UCLA Minister of Propaganda -- they call him the sports info director in Westwood -- who was quick to point out that his Bruins have 20 returning starters from a team that beat Southern California.

This is an issue because the Bruins got, uh, well, somehow left out of my first 2007 Top 25 in January. Being the good MOP that he is, Mr. Dellins quickly shipped me the galleys of the spring guide. He apologized in advance for the typos (the bound version is coming). I didn't notice any except the bold prediction on Page 3 about beating USC. Again. By 20. To win the Pac-10. Now that's a good MOP.

1. USC: Still trying to understand why running back Marc Tyler signed in February and quarterback Mitch Mustain is considering transferring from Arkansas. Tyler is one of 10 first-team prep All-America running backs on the spring depth chart. At quarterback, backup Mark Sanchez has three years left. USC loves incoming freshman Aaron Corp, too. Is it possible to have too many good players?

2. Michigan: Big Ten favorites are loaded on offense. The defense has questions, like how a unit that was one of the best in school history unraveled against Ohio State and USC. Now it faces those NFL defections. But the Wolverines won't be tested (maybe) until a Nov. 3 game at Michigan State. The first four are at home.

3. West Virginia: With two Heisman candidates (Steve Slaton and Patrick White), this might be the nation's most explosive offense. The difference between Big East title and national title is the defense. Rich Rodriguez has to quit winning shootouts.

4. LSU: What does it say that in his third season, quarterback Ryan Perrilloux is still not a threat to lead the Tigers? Senior Matt Flynn has been the loyal soldier and will be the quarterback. Unfortunately, the whole season revolves around him. Flynn will have to channel Matt Mauck get the Tigers to the top.

5. Florida: With grizzled veteran Tim Tebow now at quarterback, the Gators will be going downfield more. That's bad, bad news for opponents who couldn't cope with Chris Leak. There's a lot of payback out there in the SEC. One suggestion: Bring in Joakim Noah for a preseason talk about defending a championship.

6. Wisconsin: The Next Great Young Coach, Bret Bielema, goes into '07 with the second-best team in the Big Ten. The Wolverines were their only loss last year. As usual, the biggest question is quarterback. This being Wisconsin, it doesn't seem to matter. You might watch, though, Kansas State dual-threat transfer Allan Evridge.

7. Louisville: The Cardinals remained title contenders the moment Brian Brohm decided to stay for his senior year. Louisville lost its head coach (Bobby Petrino) and defensive coordinator (Keith Patterson), but the program should continue to run seamlessly. The defense will have to start making some plays to get to the championship level. It cost the Cards in that shocking loss to Rutgers.

8. Texas: The 'Horns had three great -- not good -- defensive backs last year. So how did they finish 99th in pass defense? That number suggests the loss of Thorpe Award winner Aaron Ross, Tarell Brown and Michael Griffin won't be that big a deal. But it's an area Mack Brown will have to shore up.

9. UCLA: One of the best quarterback battles in the country is shaping up with junior Pat Cowan going against junior Ben Olson. Cowan started eight games last season after Olson was injured, throwing for 1,700 yards. Olson, in his 37th year of eligibility, is the better physical specimen. Cowan has the love and momentum from that USC victory.

10. Oklahoma: The Sooners have had more than 3

SO#1 Wrote:Army and Navy are a mystery to me. You have Air Force more than capable to compete in football AND basketball. Those teams made it to post season regularly. I guess the Big East Football schools simply far superior than MWC schools. Or Air Force is better in producing superior athletes than Army and Navy.

I could be very wrong, but I seem to recall hearing that the Air Force admission standards for athletes is different (more relaxed) than those at Army and Navy. I think AF can take different body types than Army must. That's just out of a shady memory though. I could be wrong.

[quote="SO#1"]UMass works because they don

Maize Wrote:Damn it feels good to be Top 10 in both Major Revenue Sports in Football and Basketball and is now considered to be one of the new Mega Programs with Ohio State, Texas, Wisconsin and Florida according to ESPN.

Look, this is a good period for Louisville, no doubt, but I'm gonna hold off on calling you guys a mega program until I see how your new football coach does during his second season with the Cardinals. When he doesn't have Brian Brohm to play the Philip Rivers/Eli Manning role (outstanding college QB who makes a coach look like a genius). A lot of fans in Atlanta weren't happy the falcons hired Petrino, and one radio station did an informal poll to see who'd be gone first: Petrino or Vick, the overwelming answer was Petrino (of course that's because Falcons fans think Arthur Blank doesn't have the balls to seriously deal with Vick, who the fans refer to as "The Coach Killer")

Maize Wrote:[quote="EvilVodka"]Hey, Maize, go check this link out:

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this link was good for a laugh as well:

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/..._polls.php

and once again, this is what you're replacing:

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/..._polls.php

And here are how some of those "sucky" Big 12 teams have fared:

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/..._polls.php

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/..._polls.php

http://cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_ia/..._polls.php

No argument, Louisville has a very shaky past and Nebraska, Oklahoma and Texas has great tradition BUT that still doesn't matter. In 2006 the Big XII was horrible and like the ACC behind the Big East in performance in Football and Basketball and it looks like it will be behind the Big East in 2007. This is from Big XII homer Dennis Dodd Early Top 25 for 2007. Notice once again the ACC and Big XII are behind the Big East in football. No need to even get into the Basketball since we already know Big East Basketball is superior to ACC and Big XII hoops.

Spring Top 25: Dear Mr. Dellins -- your Bruins are here
March 26, 2007
By Dennis Dodd
CBS SportsLine.com Senior Writer
Tell Dennis your opinion!

The Bruins are in!

You knew that, and you didn't know that. Final Four? Sure. The Spring Top 25? Let's just say I am making Marc Dellins' day. Dellins is the UCLA Minister of Propaganda -- they call him the sports info director in Westwood -- who was quick to point out that his Bruins have 20 returning starters from a team that beat Southern California.

This is an issue because the Bruins got, uh, well, somehow left out of my first 2007 Top 25 in January. Being the good MOP that he is, Mr. Dellins quickly shipped me the galleys of the spring guide. He apologized in advance for the typos (the bound version is coming). I didn't notice any except the bold prediction on Page 3 about beating USC. Again. By 20. To win the Pac-10. Now that's a good MOP.

1. USC: Still trying to understand why running back Marc Tyler signed in February and quarterback Mitch Mustain is considering transferring from Arkansas. Tyler is one of 10 first-team prep All-America running backs on the spring depth chart. At quarterback, backup Mark Sanchez has three years left. USC loves incoming freshman Aaron Corp, too. Is it possible to have too many good players?

2. Michigan: Big Ten favorites are loaded on offense. The defense has questions, like how a unit that was one of the best in school history unraveled against Ohio State and USC. Now it faces those NFL defections. But the Wolverines won't be tested (maybe) until a Nov. 3 game at Michigan State. The first four are at home.

3. West Virginia: With two Heisman candidates (Steve Slaton and Patrick White), this might be the nation's most explosive offense. The difference between Big East title and national title is the defense. Rich Rodriguez has to quit winning shootouts.

4. LSU: What does it say that in his third season, quarterback Ryan Perrilloux is still not a threat to lead the Tigers? Senior Matt Flynn has been the loyal soldier and will be the quarterback. Unfortunately, the whole season revolves around him. Flynn will have to channel Matt Mauck get the Tigers to the top.

5. Florida: With grizzled veteran Tim Tebow now at quarterback, the Gators will be going downfield more. That's bad, bad news for opponents who couldn't cope with Chris Leak. There's a lot of payback out there in the SEC. One suggestion: Bring in Joakim Noah for a preseason talk about defending a championship.

6. Wisconsin: The Next Great Young Coach, Bret Bielema, goes into '07 with the second-best team in the Big Ten. The Wolverines were their only loss last year. As usual, the biggest question is quarterback. This being Wisconsin, it doesn't seem to matter. You might watch, though, Kansas State dual-threat transfer Allan Evridge.

7. Louisville: The Cardinals remained title contenders the moment Brian Brohm decided to stay for his senior year. Louisville lost its head coach (Bobby Petrino) and defensive coordinator (Keith Patterson), but the program should continue to run seamlessly. The defense will have to start making some plays to get to the championship level. It cost the Cards in that shocking loss to Rutgers.

8. Texas: The 'Horns had three great -- not good -- defensive backs last year. So how did they finish 99th in pass defense? That number suggests the loss of Thorpe Award winner Aaron Ross, Tarell Brown and Michael Griffin won't be that big a deal. But it's an area Mack Brown will have to shore up.

9. UCLA: One of the best quarterback battles in the country is shaping up with junior Pat Cowan going against junior Ben Olson. Cowan started eight games last season after Olson was injured, throwing for 1,700 yards. Olson, in his 37th year of eligibility, is the better physical specimen. Cowan has the love and momentum from that USC victory.

10. Oklahoma: The Sooners have had more than 3

Oh I know the difference but I did say going into next season it looks like the Big East will be stronger.

We know what happened in 2006 and it appears in 2007 it will be more of the same. I also measure conference SOS by how they did against other BCS leagues and the Big East did have the best record in 2005 against the other BCS leagues.

BTW, if Michigan, USC and LSU were in the Sunbelt most would put them right near the top. Whether you like it or not most fans and media judge a league from the Top 2 or 3.

Luckily for the Big East last year we had 6 schools Bowl eligible so our middle schools were somewhat decent.

Maize Wrote:Oh I know the difference but I did say going into next season it looks like the Big East will be stronger.

We know what happened in 2006 and it appears in 2007 it will be more of the same. I also measure conference SOS by how they did against other BCS leagues and the Big East did have the best record in 2005 against the other BCS leagues.

BTW, if Michigan, USC and LSU were in the Sunbelt most would put them right near the top. Whether you like it or not most fans and media judge a league from the Top 2 or 3.

Luckily for the Big East last year we had 6 schools Bowl eligible so our middle schools were somewhat decent.

It may be that 2007 will be like 2006 but because it looks that way does not mean it will happen. If we knew how it was going to turn out nobody would watch.

army56mike Wrote:

SO#1 Wrote:Army and Navy are a mystery to me. You have Air Force more than capable to compete in football AND basketball. Those teams made it to post season regularly. I guess the Big East Football schools simply far superior than MWC schools. Or Air Force is better in producing superior athletes than Army and Navy.

I could be very wrong, but I seem to recall hearing that the Air Force admission standards for athletes is different (more relaxed) than those at Army and Navy. I think AF can take different body types than Army must. That's just out of a shady memory though. I could be wrong.

It also takes a Congressional appointment, so a little pull doesn't hurt.

As a result of the ACC expansion the conference became weaker.

The Big East became stronger as a result of the realignment.

wow!

Wilkie01 Wrote:wow!

nah...two years does not a conference make.....

Hi Guppy!