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(03-21-2015 07:17 PM)uab278 Wrote:  We can make the move back to d1 in four years. Look at WKU, ODU, and Charlotte. Football will have some growing pains when we start back up.

I doubt it. IF football comes back other than in the immediate future it will be more like 10+ years. Once the football monies are diverted elsewhere (maybe within the athletic dept, initially, and then who knows where) its gonna be nearly impossible for people who don't care about football at UAB to spent the enormous amount of startup money to bring back football. WKU and ODU had strong foundations and supportive administrations. Charlotte got a HUGE commitment from the owner of the Carolina Panthers to get things started...

(03-21-2015 07:24 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:15 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:08 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:03 PM)ICB Wrote:  MVC... Means no rival... No away game travel... No Football... Call me what you will... But anything less than restoring UAB football, with facility commitments... Will force to me rethink my support.

Who is our rival now?
And it does not mean no football. Football isn't coming back within the next few years even if Watts leaves tomorrow, but it will come back. In the meantime, we have to continue to do what's best with what's left.

If all you care about is football, then I guess you drop your support then.

Southern Miss, MT... We have history with ODU & Charlotte. I am a supporter... Fan. If I only cared about football I wouldn't be on this bus traveling back from Louisville for the 2nd time in 3 days. I am just hearing all the lets take care of basketball... Seems to me that is WATTS Company Line you are towing.

So because my objective is what is best for our remaining sports, then I must be towing Watts company line. I want what best. This is what would be best.

Football is not coming back anytime soon. Time to recognize that and save the sinking ship. Or let it sink so you can say you were right.

Right now we need to focus on getting in the best conference possible. You and I can see the writing on the walls. I bought two tickets that I was basically the told were illegitimate purchases. Our task force was set out to do a job and wasn't allowed to. I have given up any hope of football at this point. I hate watts and the trustees for this bull****, but it is what it is. We need to focus on the future. The asun is not what's best right now.

I think in terms of putting a band aid on a problem, the MVC would be among the best options.

All of this IMO would be dependent on the legislation in Montgomery. If we fail to get football restored in the immediate term, then sure go for the MVC because CUSA seems unlikely to keep us basketball only and MVC is a few steps above CUSA basketball.

Then we fight the longer fight to get football back. That fight to get football back would be infinitely easier if we join a bigger basketball league like the MVC and can grow the fan base in basketball to even potentially greater heights than we are now.

Having said all of that, the best and easiest solution is to get football back through the legislation.

(03-21-2015 07:28 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  I think in terms of putting a band aid on a problem, the MVC would be among the best options.

All of this IMO would be dependent on the legislation in Montgomery. If we fail to get football restored in the immediate term, then sure go for the MVC because CUSA seems unlikely to keep us basketball only and MVC is a few steps above CUSA basketball.

Then we fight the longer fight to get football back. That fight to get football back would be infinitely easier if we join a bigger basketball league like the MVC and can grow the fan base in basketball to even potentially greater heights than we are now.

Having said all of that, the best and easiest solution is to get football back through the legislation.

I agree, except that MVC is lightyears better than CUSa

(03-21-2015 07:15 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:08 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:03 PM)ICB Wrote:  MVC... Means no rival... No away game travel... No Football... Call me what you will... But anything less than restoring UAB football, with facility commitments... Will force to me rethink my support.

Who is our rival now?
And it does not mean no football. Football isn't coming back within the next few years even if Watts leaves tomorrow, but it will come back. In the meantime, we have to continue to do what's best with what's left.

If all you care about is football, then I guess you drop your support then.

Southern Miss, MT... We have history with ODU & Charlotte. I am a supporter... Fan. If I only cared about football I wouldn't be on this bus traveling back from Louisville for the 2nd time in 3 days. I am just hearing all the lets take care of basketball... Seems to me that is WATTS Company Line you are towing.

Look if CUSA says they want to keep us regardless of whether we have football or not or the AAC says they will take us as a non football member with the possibility of becoming a full member if we reinstate football then I'm all for it. But that's not the situation right now. Right now we don't have football and if we do get back it's going to take some time and it's going to have to rebuild. We can't jeopardize the success of what is and always has been our most successful athletics program just so we can have another reason to *****.

(03-21-2015 07:33 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:28 PM)Blazer85 Wrote:  I think in terms of putting a band aid on a problem, the MVC would be among the best options.

All of this IMO would be dependent on the legislation in Montgomery. If we fail to get football restored in the immediate term, then sure go for the MVC because CUSA seems unlikely to keep us basketball only and MVC is a few steps above CUSA basketball.

Then we fight the longer fight to get football back. That fight to get football back would be infinitely easier if we join a bigger basketball league like the MVC and can grow the fan base in basketball to even potentially greater heights than we are now.

Having said all of that, the best and easiest solution is to get football back through the legislation.

I agree, except that MVC is lightyears better than CUSa

True!

With all due respect fellas, if current efforts fail I'm out. Not because I don't value basketball but because I value the university. One of two scenarios exist. Either we have a president who is intellectually (among other things) dishonest or we have absolutely no say in how UAB is shaped or run. In either case, I want no part of it. If my resources and input aren't needed or wanted I can find other outlets for both.

Y'all realize this is all based on a single throwaway line with no sourcing, buried deep in a column, right?

If we need to wait for confirmation of a new Wattrocity, then that same caution should probably apply here.

Yes. Proceed with caution. It might be good news.

(03-21-2015 07:24 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:15 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:08 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:03 PM)ICB Wrote:  MVC... Means no rival... No away game travel... No Football... Call me what you will... But anything less than restoring UAB football, with facility commitments... Will force to me rethink my support.

Who is our rival now?
And it does not mean no football. Football isn't coming back within the next few years even if Watts leaves tomorrow, but it will come back. In the meantime, we have to continue to do what's best with what's left.

If all you care about is football, then I guess you drop your support then.

Southern Miss, MT... We have history with ODU & Charlotte. I am a supporter... Fan. If I only cared about football I wouldn't be on this bus traveling back from Louisville for the 2nd time in 3 days. I am just hearing all the lets take care of basketball... Seems to me that is WATTS Company Line you are towing.

So because my objective is what is best for our remaining sports, then I must be towing Watts company line. I want what best. This is what would be best.

Football is not coming back anytime soon. Time to recognize that and save the sinking ship. Or let it sink so you can say you were right.

Say I was right about? Have I given any prediction to be right or wrong about. I don't think so. However, I am bothered by many on here, you inlcuded MB,who have never really given a rats tail about football to begin with, now ready to run full steam ahead without it. If we are going to be about UAB, let not forget about the programs that still need someone fighting for it.

(03-21-2015 07:03 PM)ICB Wrote:  MVC... Means no rival... No away game travel... No Football... Call me what you will... But anything less than restoring UAB football, with facility commitments... Will force to me rethink my support.

I agree with your sentiments. We need our athletics department restored back period.
This is not 1980 and We're not in Kansas, Indiana, or in the North East. We're in the deep south where football is god and basketball can be king.

(03-21-2015 07:36 PM)biglizard Wrote:  With all due respect fellas, if current efforts fail I'm out. Not because I don't value basketball but because I value the university. One of two scenarios exist. Either we have a president who is intellectually (among other things) dishonest or we have absolutely no say in how UAB is shaped or run. In either case, I want no part of it. If my resources and input aren't needed or wanted I can find other outlets for both.

Amen.

The fight for a #freeuab (which is only going to happen via legislation) should be primary goal. If the mission gets carried out, anything remotely non-related to undergrad studies will be obliterated. We must be pragmatic in the short term but be willing to fight a very long-term battle for independence.

(03-21-2015 07:58 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:24 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:15 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:08 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:03 PM)ICB Wrote:  MVC... Means no rival... No away game travel... No Football... Call me what you will... But anything less than restoring UAB football, with facility commitments... Will force to me rethink my support.

Who is our rival now?
And it does not mean no football. Football isn't coming back within the next few years even if Watts leaves tomorrow, but it will come back. In the meantime, we have to continue to do what's best with what's left.

If all you care about is football, then I guess you drop your support then.

Southern Miss, MT... We have history with ODU & Charlotte. I am a supporter... Fan. If I only cared about football I wouldn't be on this bus traveling back from Louisville for the 2nd time in 3 days. I am just hearing all the lets take care of basketball... Seems to me that is WATTS Company Line you are towing.

So because my objective is what is best for our remaining sports, then I must be towing Watts company line. I want what best. This is what would be best.

Football is not coming back anytime soon. Time to recognize that and save the sinking ship. Or let it sink so you can say you were right.

Say I was right about? Have I given any prediction to be right or wrong about. I don't think so. However, I am bothered by many on here, you inlcuded MB,who have never really given a rats tail about football to begin with, now ready to run full steam ahead without it. If we are going to be about UAB, let not forget about the programs that still need someone fighting for it.

And there is many of you that don't give s rat's azz about basketball. MVC interest flies in the face of those that believe without football, UAB Basketball will end up in the OVC or something far worse.

(03-21-2015 08:08 PM)BamaScorpio69 Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:58 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:24 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:15 PM)ICB Wrote:  

(03-21-2015 07:08 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  Who is our rival now?
And it does not mean no football. Football isn't coming back within the next few years even if Watts leaves tomorrow, but it will come back. In the meantime, we have to continue to do what's best with what's left.

If all you care about is football, then I guess you drop your support then.

Southern Miss, MT... We have history with ODU & Charlotte. I am a supporter... Fan. If I only cared about football I wouldn't be on this bus traveling back from Louisville for the 2nd time in 3 days. I am just hearing all the lets take care of basketball... Seems to me that is WATTS Company Line you are towing.

So because my objective is what is best for our remaining sports, then I must be towing Watts company line. I want what best. This is what would be best.

Football is not coming back anytime soon. Time to recognize that and save the sinking ship. Or let it sink so you can say you were right.

Say I was right about? Have I given any prediction to be right or wrong about. I don't think so. However, I am bothered by many on here, you inlcuded MB,who have never really given a rats tail about football to begin with, now ready to run full steam ahead without it. If we are going to be about UAB, let not forget about the programs that still need someone fighting for it.

And there is many of you that don't give s rat's azz about basketball. MVC interest flies in the face of those that believe without football, UAB Basketball will end up in the OVC or something far worse.

I love Basketball and I understand how both sports enhance each other for the school, fans, and recruits.

Wichita State
Northern Iowa
Illinois St.
So. Illinois
Bradley
Evansville
Indiana State
Missouri State
Drake
Loyola-Chi

This is a RESPECTED basketball conference with multiple bids every year...MVC hoops makes C-USA hoops look like MEAC hoops...even if we don't gain membership just being under consideration puts UAB in a good light

(03-21-2015 06:19 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  The MVC is at 10 members. I assume if their interest in UAB is legit, they are interested in expanding to 12.

Does anyone else know who they might be considering with us.

Murray State or Belmont? Either would provide a more geographic rival for us.

Distant Relationships... MVC would need to include a new team from an intermediate state(Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, maybe northern Mississippi) to make it work...

(03-21-2015 08:29 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote:  Distant Relationships... MVC would need to include a new team from an intermediate state(Tennessee, Kentucky, Arkansas, maybe northern Mississippi) to make it work...

Even if they were to only add UAB, still isn't spread out as much as CUSA.

I would be fine with the MVC, but logistically the AAC might make more sense if it were an option. At least in that scenario, we could have a place to put football when we bring it back. Also, we have some history with teams like Cincinnati, Memphis, etc. Would also be more travel friendly (for the most part) for UAB folks.

But no question, we shouldn't sneeze at interest from the MVC if it is legitimate. Same goes for the A-10 if they were to express interest.

CUSA makes the most sense, but in essence, the ball is in their court. If they don't want to accommodate UAB, we don't really have another option. Naturally my ultimate goal is for us to get football back, but if we could put basketball on more solid footing with a bigger basketball league (AAC, MVC, or A-10) then by all means, we need to do it.

In terms of if the MVC were to add 2 programs, I could see Murray State being the other.