(03-03-2015 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Nole

If Notre Dame comes in and Navy for FB only is asked...it would work. We could offer UConn a partial and a scheduling agreement in FB...along with offering a membership to Gtown/Nova or SJU (just 1 of these 3) to make it a 16/17. hybrid.

If UConn takes the offer...give them a contract for X (maybe like 7-10 years) amount of years to elevate their FB. They could leave after 7-10 years with no penalty.

Start heading down the path that led to the break up of the big east. Good idea.

(03-03-2015 02:24 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:00 PM)green Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Nole

If Notre Dame comes in and Navy for FB only is asked...it would work. We could offer UConn a partial and a scheduling agreement in FB...or offer a membership to Gtown/Nova or SJU (just 1 of these 3) to make it a 16/17 hybrid.

If UConn takes the offer...give them a contract for X (maybe like 7-10 years) amount of years to elevate their FB. They could leave after 7-10 years with no penalty.

no hybrids ...
one for all ...
and all for one ...

UNIFORM CODE OF CONDUCT

So you must hate that the B1G is a hybrid too? and SEC schools are associate members of other conferences?

Heck the ACC is a hybrid right now.

Mark, I agree with him. If your conference sponsors a sport, then all of its members should play that sport in their conference. However, I agree also with what you said because no conference sponsors all sports. Therefore, many schools in more than one conference.

(03-03-2015 02:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Nole

If Notre Dame comes in and Navy for FB only is asked...it would work. We could offer UConn a partial and a scheduling agreement in FB...along with offering a membership to Gtown/Nova or SJU (just 1 of these 3) to make it a 16/17. hybrid.

If UConn takes the offer...give them a contract for X (maybe like 7-10 years) amount of years to elevate their FB. They could leave after 7-10 years with no penalty.

Start heading down the path that led to the break up of the big east. Good idea.

We already headed down that path with Notre Dame.

Lumberpack one thing, your board moderator at pack sports is slow at approving new posters. Just a little complaint(Not that you care) :)

(03-03-2015 02:56 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:24 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:00 PM)green Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Nole

If Notre Dame comes in and Navy for FB only is asked...it would work. We could offer UConn a partial and a scheduling agreement in FB...or offer a membership to Gtown/Nova or SJU (just 1 of these 3) to make it a 16/17 hybrid.

If UConn takes the offer...give them a contract for X (maybe like 7-10 years) amount of years to elevate their FB. They could leave after 7-10 years with no penalty.

no hybrids ...
one for all ...
and all for one ...

UNIFORM CODE OF CONDUCT

So you must hate that the B1G is a hybrid too? and SEC schools are associate members of other conferences?

Heck the ACC is a hybrid right now.

Mark, I agree with him. If your conference sponsors a sport, then all of its members should play that sport in their conference. However, I agree also with what you said because no conference sponsors all sports. Therefore, many schools in more than one conference.

Syracuse would need a baseball team real quick, then. Several ACC schools need to start men's lacrosse programs immediately, etc.. etc...

The Big East didn't fail because it was a hybrid. The Big East failed because it had no big time, "anchor schools" (Michigan, Texas, Ohio State, Alabama, FSU, etc..) in its conference.

It was doomed from the beginning because of that. Things worked out for the Big East like it was always destined to happen.

Not any/enough "anchor schools"= not enough cash=dissolution.

(03-03-2015 03:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Nole

If Notre Dame comes in and Navy for FB only is asked...it would work. We could offer UConn a partial and a scheduling agreement in FB...along with offering a membership to Gtown/Nova or SJU (just 1 of these 3) to make it a 16/17. hybrid.

If UConn takes the offer...give them a contract for X (maybe like 7-10 years) amount of years to elevate their FB. They could leave after 7-10 years with no penalty.

Start heading down the path that led to the break up of the big east. Good idea.

We already headed down that path with Notre Dame.

The primrose path refers to a course of action that seems easy and appropriate but can actually end in calamity.
-- wiki

special rules for special people breeds lasting resentment ...

THE PRIMROSE PATH

(03-03-2015 03:31 PM)green Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Nole

If Notre Dame comes in and Navy for FB only is asked...it would work. We could offer UConn a partial and a scheduling agreement in FB...along with offering a membership to Gtown/Nova or SJU (just 1 of these 3) to make it a 16/17. hybrid.

If UConn takes the offer...give them a contract for X (maybe like 7-10 years) amount of years to elevate their FB. They could leave after 7-10 years with no penalty.

Start heading down the path that led to the break up of the big east. Good idea.

We already headed down that path with Notre Dame.

The primrose path refers to a course of action that seems easy and appropriate but can actually end in calamity.
-- wiki

special rules for special people breeds lasting resentment ...

THE PRIMROSE PATH

Like I said when the deal was struck I was shocked the ACC did it and it made them ripe for instability. Then the GoR were signed and we're all in this together in one big happy family(J/K). I see the benefits to both sides I just was surprised the ACC went against their Against previous statements against partials.

I was happy/disappointed because I have allows liked and followed the ACC during basketball season so on some level I liked ND being in their but also feared that instability could come. But it seems to be okay for now for both sides so I hope my fears were unfounded.

(03-03-2015 03:48 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:31 PM)green Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Nole

If Notre Dame comes in and Navy for FB only is asked...it would work. We could offer UConn a partial and a scheduling agreement in FB...along with offering a membership to Gtown/Nova or SJU (just 1 of these 3) to make it a 16/17. hybrid.

If UConn takes the offer...give them a contract for X (maybe like 7-10 years) amount of years to elevate their FB. They could leave after 7-10 years with no penalty.

Start heading down the path that led to the break up of the big east. Good idea.

We already headed down that path with Notre Dame.

The primrose path refers to a course of action that seems easy and appropriate but can actually end in calamity.
-- wiki

special rules for special people breeds lasting resentment ...

THE PRIMROSE PATH

Like I said when the deal was struck I was shocked the ACC did it and it made them ripe for instability. Then the GoR were signed and we're all in this together in one big happy family(J/K). I see the benefits to both sides I just was surprised the ACC went against their Against previous statements against partials.

I was happy/disappointed because I have allows liked and followed the ACC during basketball season so on some level I liked ND being in their but also feared that instability could come. But it seems to be okay for now for both sides so I hope my fears were unfounded.

you know what they say about the weather in florida ...
wait 15 minutes and it will change ...

LONG RANGE FORECAST

(03-03-2015 03:48 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:31 PM)green Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Nole

If Notre Dame comes in and Navy for FB only is asked...it would work. We could offer UConn a partial and a scheduling agreement in FB...along with offering a membership to Gtown/Nova or SJU (just 1 of these 3) to make it a 16/17. hybrid.

If UConn takes the offer...give them a contract for X (maybe like 7-10 years) amount of years to elevate their FB. They could leave after 7-10 years with no penalty.

Start heading down the path that led to the break up of the big east. Good idea.

We already headed down that path with Notre Dame.

The primrose path refers to a course of action that seems easy and appropriate but can actually end in calamity.
-- wiki

special rules for special people breeds lasting resentment ...

THE PRIMROSE PATH

Like I said when the deal was struck I was shocked the ACC did it and it made them ripe for instability. Then the GoR were signed and we're all in this together in one big happy family(J/K). I see the benefits to both sides I just was surprised the ACC went against their Against previous statements against partials.

I was happy/disappointed because I have allows liked and followed the ACC during basketball season so on some level I liked ND being in their but also feared that instability could come. But it seems to be okay for now for both sides so I hope my fears were unfounded.

Survival. Necessity. Need.

That is why the ACC did the partial ND deal. It had to, because it feared that the conference would have come apart without the ND deal.

Otherwise, the ACC would have said "No", just like it did before 2012.

(03-03-2015 03:48 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:31 PM)green Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  Nole

If Notre Dame comes in and Navy for FB only is asked...it would work. We could offer UConn a partial and a scheduling agreement in FB...along with offering a membership to Gtown/Nova or SJU (just 1 of these 3) to make it a 16/17. hybrid.

If UConn takes the offer...give them a contract for X (maybe like 7-10 years) amount of years to elevate their FB. They could leave after 7-10 years with no penalty.

Start heading down the path that led to the break up of the big east. Good idea.

We already headed down that path with Notre Dame.

The primrose path refers to a course of action that seems easy and appropriate but can actually end in calamity.
-- wiki

special rules for special people breeds lasting resentment ...

THE PRIMROSE PATH

Like I said when the deal was struck I was shocked the ACC did it and it made them ripe for instability. Then the GoR were signed and we're all in this together in one big happy family(J/K). I see the benefits to both sides I just was surprised the ACC went against their Against previous statements against partials.

I was happy/disappointed because I have allows liked and followed the ACC during basketball season so on some level I liked ND being in their but also feared that instability could come. But it seems to be okay for now for both sides so I hope my fears were unfounded.

I don't want to leave the wrong impression ...
I enthusiastically supported notre dame's invite at the time ...
still do ...
nd's unquestioned drawing power adds value to our gate receipts, bowl prospects & OB tie-in all the while devaluing the big yeast ...
makes nyc's inclusion in the ACC tournament rotation a virtual certainty ...
as you can see ...
there is no consensus on #16 ...
my nominee: texas
the total package ...
plus, espn agrees a bump in take-home pay to $20M+ per school per year is warranted ...
and paves the way for a dedicated channel which I've been pining for ...
expanding without expanding ...

KISS THE BLARNEY STONE

(03-03-2015 04:06 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:48 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:31 PM)green Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:28 PM)Marge Schott Wrote:  Start heading down the path that led to the break up of the big east. Good idea.

We already headed down that path with Notre Dame.

The primrose path refers to a course of action that seems easy and appropriate but can actually end in calamity.
-- wiki

special rules for special people breeds lasting resentment ...

THE PRIMROSE PATH

Like I said when the deal was struck I was shocked the ACC did it and it made them ripe for instability. Then the GoR were signed and we're all in this together in one big happy family(J/K). I see the benefits to both sides I just was surprised the ACC went against their Against previous statements against partials.

I was happy/disappointed because I have allows liked and followed the ACC during basketball season so on some level I liked ND being in their but also feared that instability could come. But it seems to be okay for now for both sides so I hope my fears were unfounded.

Survival. Necessity. Need.

That is why the ACC did the partial ND deal. It had to, because it feared that the conference would have come apart without the ND deal.

Otherwise, the ACC would have said "No", just like it did before 2012.

Your are assigning WAY TOO much credit to ND for the conference's stability.

(03-03-2015 04:19 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 04:06 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:48 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:31 PM)green Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:01 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  We already headed down that path with Notre Dame.

The primrose path refers to a course of action that seems easy and appropriate but can actually end in calamity.
-- wiki

special rules for special people breeds lasting resentment ...

THE PRIMROSE PATH

Like I said when the deal was struck I was shocked the ACC did it and it made them ripe for instability. Then the GoR were signed and we're all in this together in one big happy family(J/K). I see the benefits to both sides I just was surprised the ACC went against their Against previous statements against partials.

I was happy/disappointed because I have allows liked and followed the ACC during basketball season so on some level I liked ND being in their but also feared that instability could come. But it seems to be okay for now for both sides so I hope my fears were unfounded.

Survival. Necessity. Need.

That is why the ACC did the partial ND deal. It had to, because it feared that the conference would have come apart without the ND deal.

Otherwise, the ACC would have said "No", just like it did before 2012.

Your are assigning WAY TOO much credit to ND for the conference's stability.

Way too much. The GoR had already been signed when ND signed on.

(03-03-2015 04:28 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 04:19 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 04:06 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:48 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:31 PM)green Wrote:  The primrose path refers to a course of action that seems easy and appropriate but can actually end in calamity.
-- wiki

special rules for special people breeds lasting resentment ...

THE PRIMROSE PATH

Like I said when the deal was struck I was shocked the ACC did it and it made them ripe for instability. Then the GoR were signed and we're all in this together in one big happy family(J/K). I see the benefits to both sides I just was surprised the ACC went against their Against previous statements against partials.

I was happy/disappointed because I have allows liked and followed the ACC during basketball season so on some level I liked ND being in their but also feared that instability could come. But it seems to be okay for now for both sides so I hope my fears were unfounded.

Survival. Necessity. Need.

That is why the ACC did the partial ND deal. It had to, because it feared that the conference would have come apart without the ND deal.

Otherwise, the ACC would have said "No", just like it did before 2012.

Your are assigning WAY TOO much credit to ND for the conference's stability.

Way too much. The GoR had already been signed when ND signed on.

actually, the timeline went like this:
ND joins as 5/8 FB, full in everything else
MD announces they are joining B1G
WVU inbreds go crazy
ACC signs GOR

(03-03-2015 04:28 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  ...The GoR had already been signed when ND signed on.

Not even close.

Notre Dame joined the ACC on Sept. 12, 2012 - that's the day the exit fee was increased to $50 million, too.

The GoR was not signed until April 22, 2013 - seven months later.

(I left out the WVU part)

(03-03-2015 04:43 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 04:28 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  ...The GoR had already been signed when ND signed on.

Not even close.

Notre Dame joined the ACC on Sept. 12, 2012 - that's the day the exit fee was increased to $50 million, too.

The GoR was not signed until April 22, 2013 - seven months later.

(I left out the WVU part)

ND had as little or much to do with this as any other school, maybe less.

(03-03-2015 03:16 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:56 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:24 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 02:00 PM)green Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 11:06 AM)TexanMark Wrote:  

The Big East didn't fail because it was a hybrid. The Big East failed because it had no big time, "anchor schools" (Michigan, Texas, Ohio State, Alabama, FSU, etc..) in its conference.

It was doomed from the beginning because of that. Things worked out for the Big East like it was always destined to happen.

Not any/enough "anchor schools"= not enough cash=dissolution.

ND could have been that "anchor" for the BE.

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ACC is a better place for all of us from the Big East!

Miami was an anchor when they were in the Big East.

After Miami, VTech, and BC moved to the ACC, the Big East lost its anchor and never recovered.

(03-03-2015 04:28 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 04:19 PM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 04:06 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:48 PM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(03-03-2015 03:31 PM)green Wrote:  The primrose path refers to a course of action that seems easy and appropriate but can actually end in calamity.
-- wiki

special rules for special people breeds lasting resentment ...

THE PRIMROSE PATH

Like I said when the deal was struck I was shocked the ACC did it and it made them ripe for instability. Then the GoR were signed and we're all in this together in one big happy family(J/K). I see the benefits to both sides I just was surprised the ACC went against their Against previous statements against partials.

I was happy/disappointed because I have allows liked and followed the ACC during basketball season so on some level I liked ND being in their but also feared that instability could come. But it seems to be okay for now for both sides so I hope my fears were unfounded.

Survival. Necessity. Need.

That is why the ACC did the partial ND deal. It had to, because it feared that the conference would have come apart without the ND deal.

Otherwise, the ACC would have said "No", just like it did before 2012.

Your are assigning WAY TOO much credit to ND for the conference's stability.

Way too much. The GoR had already been signed when ND signed on.

Seems like I remember that ND wanted to sign a GoR with the ACC but Maryland blocked it so they raised the exit fee instead and Maryland bitched about that and then left.

(03-03-2015 05:07 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote:   ACC is a better place for all of us from the Big East!

The ACC IS the Big East.


Making many of the same mistakes.....still dealing with basketball schools stuck in a football world.