(02-24-2015 07:06 PM)Dasville Wrote: (02-24-2015 06:50 PM)He1nousOne Wrote: (02-24-2015 02:28 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: (02-24-2015 02:18 PM)vandiver49 Wrote: (02-24-2015 08:54 AM)He1nousOne Wrote: Don't bother speaking logically to these people Krup. They are not thinking logically, they are thinking with their emotions. They hate Rutgers for getting the opportunity that their schools didn't get. That's it.
The problem H1 is that regardless of the B1G payments and when they are supposed to arrive is why is Rugters AD in the shape it's in financially? Former Big East peers from Louisville to UConn to UCF all seem to have their athletic houses in order, yet Rutgers has the largest student fees yet outside of the High Point Stadium, where has that money gone? This isn't hate, I'm just generally curious. If finances are mismanaged in the current economic environment, why is it presumed that getting more money will result in better stewardship?
Bingo.
Oh please, don't even try to act now as if THAT was the angle of your original post.
Now, to Vandiver? What do I care about how Rutgers is in regards to stewardship of the money they receive? The Big Ten got their market, that is what they wanted. All this talk about Rutgers athletics not deserving the position, that is laughable. That was never the point. That is why I have been interested in Rutgers athletics. It would be a case of an example of money turning sports programs around.
The thing is though, these people Vandiver, the ones trying to act as if they are being rational about it, have been talking like this from the very moment Rutgers joined. There still hasn't been enough time that has gone by in order for us to have a rational discussion about whether the money will positively affect Rutgers sports programs. Nothing is presumed, the only people doing that are the ones that are doing it wrong around here.
It will be interesting watching UofL and Rutgers over the next 10-20 years. Will the BiG $ improve Rutgers' athletics more than the ACC affiliation will improve UofL's US News reputation?
It may have nothing to do with conference affiliation, institutional likeness, or athletic budgeting. It may come down to the overall health of the states of KY and NJ respectively. Or MD, for that matter.
This whole realignment thing was always interesting to me because I lived right down the road from Villanova when they won the FCS title and then the FBS subject reemerging. Adding what happened up at my alma mater in Happy Valley and across the river in NJ, as well as working for a school that's close to Temple, if you're a college sports fan, which I am, this stuff is inescapable. And it's so interesting.
It's just part of doing business up on this side of the map. Lots of people, but it's shrinking, and the jobs are going away, too. Lots of great schools, but nothing that fits the mold of anything similar to those of the big midwestern land grants. I'd argue even PSU doesn't exactly fit the Big Ten institutionally, even if they didn't fit the Big East or ACC, either. People want to marginalize the Rutgers move as solely for the media contract...uhh...when did PSU get off that island?
It was Rutgers' very own fans over on the Scarlet Nation Rivals board who spoke to the institutional, infrastructural, and administrative instability/unpreparedness before that fateful day changed everything. It's one thing to be passionate about wanting to join the Big Ten, and nobody seemed to want it more than their fans, but when your own alumni and fans see the issues of readiness, even if the Big Ten deems them good enough, it doesn't equate to a fix, you know? And, from what it sounds like, their "readiness" wasn't as firm as some would think it. Clearly, this could take awhile.
So, obviously, it's all in the past, and maybe something can be had from putting three giant universities (which I think is just as much a reason to grab both RU and UMD, because, in that way, they DO fit the Big Ten mold) in a spot where they can fight amongst themselves, but it wouldn't matter if this was Pitt, UConn, and SUNY Buffalo in the Big Ten...big schools in lucrative regions that are losing their ground.
Some in the Big Ten have hinted toward wanting to push down to the southeast. That's not a dumb decision, if that's where the people are going and the jobs are remaining (to be created). Maybe the institutions aren't like what you'll find in the midwest or northeast, but the schools down those parts might be due for something good that these parts have seen set, simply because of an economy and newer and smaller infrastructure (that isn't overburdened by "educational bloat").